Dealey Plaza

[george minze]

The Kennedy assassination will be re-visited from now to when we are all gone. The same arguments will be bantered around for our great grand kids to argue about. Stop and think about it...Who would the general public believe at this stage of the mystery. Oswald is and has been gone...The cut-out was almost complete one second after the shooting at Police headquarters. If it wasn't Oswald it then becomes the greatest mystery since Amelia Earhart disappeared.. and I might add about as unsolvable.

 

[Comrad]

Let's see what 2017 brings us, I can't wait.

 

[PA Reb]

Not true. Conally was not sitting directly in front of Kennedy . The bullet did, in fact, travel in a straight line, which is exactly what ball ammo of that type does. It can penetrate an elephants brain with no more deformation than what is pictured.

Sorry to spoil the fun, but yes, it was a lone nut job.

Oh, yeah, as for the marksmanship skill and firearm accuracy: any firearm enthusiast who has visited the 6th floor window can tell you a teenager with a 30-30 lever gun could have made the shots.

I agree that Connally wasn't directly in front of the president but the governor himself disputed the magic bullet theory to the day he died.. I've also been to the 6th floor window and would disagree with your last statement. Like I've said before, believe what you wish to believe as we will never know the truth.

 

[italiansport]

50 years later:
*Not one shred of hard evidence has ever been produced linking anyone but LH Oswald to the assassination.
*It is now believed that the 1st bullet struck a light crossmember , fragmented and wounded a bystander.
*The second bullet went through the Presidents neck and wounded Governor Connally.
*The third bullet hit the President in the head and caused the fatality

Why all the conspiracy theories, books, movies etc. over the years? It really boils down to money. Millions of dollars have been made by proposing all sorts of theories about who killed John Kennedy and why.

The simple truth here with the lack of any real other evidence is L H Oswald probably shot and killed John Kennedy as a lone gunman. Since he was killed himself shortly after the reason for doing so will never be known.
Jim
As an aside: I have owned and shot multiple Carcano's over the years primarily with surplus ammunition. I have found them to be quick handling and accurate rifles and easily up to the task.

 

[PA Reb]

50 years later:
*Not one shred of hard evidence has ever been produced linking anyone but LH Oswald to the assassination. Wrong and LHO was never linked with credible evidence!
*It is now believed that the 1st bullet struck a light crossmember , fragmented and wounded a bystander. Maybe but its been proven that one hit the curb at the underpass which hit a bystander.
*The second bullet went through the Presidents neck and wounded Governor Connally. I disagree and so did Connally.
*The third bullet hit the President in the head and caused the fatality Or, more than likely, the fourth.

Why all the conspiracy theories, books, movies etc. over the years? It really boils down to money. Millions of dollars have been made by proposing all sorts of theories about who killed John Kennedy and why.

The simple truth here with the lack of any real other evidence is L H Oswald probably shot and killed John Kennedy as a lone gunman. Since he was killed himself shortly after the reason for doing so will never be known.
Jim
As an aside: I have owned and shot multiple Carcano's over the years primarily with surplus ammunition. I have found them to be quick handling and accurate rifles and easily up to the task.

I saw the program you're referring all this conjecture on. They also couldn't understand why the shooter didn't take the better frontal shot before the limo turned left onto Elm. I believe I'm out of this conversation because this back and forth could last for decades!

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

I have less rifle experience than most here and have sat in Oswald's sniper nest and wondered what the big deal was. Even I and my Mosin Nagant could have done that without Oswald's Marine training.

 

[vito]

This debate "could last for decades"? It already has lasted for half a century and doesn't seem likely to go away anytime soon.

 

[PA Reb]

This debate "could last for decades"? It already has lasted for half a century and doesn't seem likely to go away anytime soon.

That's true "vito". What I really meant is this thread could go on and on !

"HOUSTON RICK" - Personally, I've been there too and I think the shot was a moderately easy one and I never once stated that it was difficult. What would have been difficult in my view is doing it while under the pressure of shooting at a U.S. president - something I don't think Oswald had the cahoonas to do on his own. And again, you referred to it as "Oswald's sniper nest." Oswald may very well have been in that window but there has never been any concrete evidence shown that he was other than what I believe was a "planted print" on the gun. Oswald may or may not have been in that window, but I believe whoever was in that window had help from other locations.

 

[Comrad]

Funny thing about all those who claim to have looked out that 6th floor window and claim what an easy shot it is. Nobody is permitted to look out that window, it's walled off with glass and I think I know why, if anyone looked out that window they would realize what a crappy place it was to shoot from, the angle and the trees would have made it a difficult shot. In my opinion the window at the opposite side of the room was the better place to take the shot, or maybe a floor below or maybe the Dal-Tex building. There is as much evidence that Oswald didn't do it as there is that he did. What bothered me is if he was the fanatic that the media made him out to be, why wasn't he beating his chest and taking a victory lap around the Dallas PD? Instead he truly looked bewildered that he was charged with shooting the President. Like I mentioned before, even Bobby didn't buy the Oswald story. Shooting a President is a big deal and isn't likely to be done without a motive or an agenda. What was Oswald's? I can think of quite a few others who had something to gain by the death of JFK. Another interesting side note is how many Warren Commission members when on to higher political office and others in positions of power who eventually became Presidents. There sure were a lot of people who had something to gain by the assassination.

 

[POPPER]

Who knows?

Funny thing about all those who claim to have looked out that 6th floor window and claim what an easy shot it is. Nobody is permitted to look out that window, it's walled off with glass and I think I know why, if anyone looked out that window they would realize what a crappy place it was to shoot from, the angle and the trees would have made it a difficult shot. In my opinion the window at the opposite side of the room was the better place to take the shot, or maybe a floor below or maybe the Dal-Tex building. There is as much evidence that Oswald didn't do it as there is that he did. What bothered me is if he was the fanatic that the media made him out to be, why wasn't he beating his chest and taking a victory lap around the Dallas PD? Instead he truly looked bewildered that he was charged with shooting the President. Like I mentioned before, even Bobby didn't buy the Oswald story. Shooting a President is a big deal and isn't likely to be done without a motive or an agenda. What was Oswald's? I can think of quite a few others who had something to gain by the death of JFK. Another interesting side note is how many Warren Commission members when on to higher political office and others in positions of power who eventually became Presidents. There sure were a lot of people who had something to gain by the assassination.

Thing that has always bothered me about this mess is I lived in Irving .Tx then when this mess happened and had a friend who had his kids over at the plaza to see the President that day and a combat military vet also. He said he was standing on the far side of the motorcade from the grassy knoll when the shots were fired and he threw his kids to the ground and swore those shots came from over at the grassy knoll by the trees right across from Kennedys' Lincoln. Also a Dallas police officer ran into the school book depository right after the shots were fired and not knowing who he was then, saw Oswald sitting in the cafeteria down on the next floor supposedly and there was no way he could have shot from that window and made it to the cafeteria in that span of time. Lastly why did a known mobster, Jack Ruby feel all this compassion and remorse as to go to the parking garage in front of God and everybody and blow Oswald away? Fact of the matter one more theory for you. JFK had been messing around with some gangsters woman about that point and time. RE Marlyn Monroe among others. He made Bill Clinton look like an piker. Just something for you to think about OK? Me? From what I've heard I think it was a mob job. Oswald may have had a part in it as the patsy possibly. We'll probably never know. One last thought. How is it brother Robt came down so hard on the mob before he finally got wasted? Think about it.

 

[POPPER]

Like to ad one more thing to the thoughts if I may. If in fact Oswald was up in that window why for pete sake would he have not popped the President when he was right at him instead of waiting till he got on down the street aways? Been there, know the layout and as for me I ain't buying into the Oswald lone shooter theory.As for me I think Lee Harvey Oswald was the patsy and Ruby was told to shut him up plain and simple. For Ruby to walk down that parking garage in front of all those law dogs and do what he did to Oswald defies reason. Money talks and BS walks OK? Sorry! Popper