Did I get burned on a 617 ?

[1HAWKEYE]

Ok folks here's the story. Last saturday I picked up a like new 617-1, 6 shot & 6 inch bbl. In the box with all kinds of spare parts encluding a spare target hammer,trigger & a scope mount. I paid 650.00. Today I go into a friends shop and he's got a 617-4, 10 shot 4 inch bbl in great condition(that I might wind up with) but with only a boyt cary case for 495.00. When I got the dash 1 the clerk knew it came with the S&W case but the spare parts were a complete surprise to him. Did I do ok or did I pay to much for the 617-1?

 

[BKDinTexas]

Prices vary a lot by region, but I would say the first one was a bit high, but not too bad considering you got all those parts with it. The 4" sounds reasonable. Buy them both, average it out, sell the parts to recoup some money, and I would say they both are a good deal! :>)

 

[ab4ka]

around here I've yet to see a used 617. IMO if you like it, it was worth it!

 

[Smithboomer]

Me, I would run to the shop and buy that 4" ten-shot. I have yet to see a used 4" ten-shot for sale around here. At $495 I'd buy it and enjoy it.

 

[tom turner]

Most people don't get rid of their .22LR S&W revolvers . . . til their widow disposes of guns later (or someone is laid off and HAS to sell that last revolver in his collection).

Thus, you don't see many used ones in stores. Those "fairly" priced last as long in the store cases as a really great priced gun lasts in the classifieds here. In other words . . . NOT LONG!

Plus, most shop owners are internet people these days and learn the going rates in various parts of the country and use those higher numbers to try to convince customers in their towns that the higher prices are HIS area's going rates. If enough customers "buy" this . . . it IS the new "going rate."

That being said, there's an old saying that you never pay too much for a nice Smith that you want . . . you just sometimes buy it a year or so too "early."

The $495 is a decent price for a shooter and it won't last too long. The other one will sit on the shelf longer but if you WANT it, the price is "ok." That's the way it has always been too!

Enjoy your new 617!

T.

 

[Wee Hooker]

My antenna's would have went up when I saw spare hammers, triggers and such. That means somebodies been inside that revolver. Maybe somebody who knows what they were doing, maybe not.

 

[signsrup]

Hawkeye,
Being just down the road from you, I would say you paid about average price for the 6" gun. I think the 4" gun is a good deal.

The 4" guns have seen a surge in demand as practice guns for the action sports, especially since centerfire ammo has skyrocketted in price.

 

[pinduck]

Yes i would agree with WH I would wonder why the parts were there.
Glen

 

[1HAWKEYE]

The spare parts that came with the 617-1 were in a bag labeled "extra parts from trigger job by S&W".They are all new parts in the wrapper with the exception of the hammer which has a very slight bit of ware on it. The insides of the revolver had nothing goofy done to it. No burred screwheads outside either. I think the previous owner might have just wanted spares just in case. Who knows ? I am happy with the gun and a spare rimfire target hammer is kinda a bonus.

 

[5Wire]

Here's what I've got for a track on 617P 4-in Bbl:

Smith & Wesson 617 Plus Revolver in .22, Long Rifle 4-in Bbl. Bluebook of Gun Values (30th Edition) indicates between $476 in 98% condition and $631 in 100% condition for this gun. I have 31 recorded prices for this model gun from $350 to $650 over a period of 6 Yrs 1 Mos ending October 31, 2009. The average price as of that date was $485. No refurbs, no refinishes, regular sights, all represented as 95% or better, no distinction for import location or engineering revision, if any, no special editions, no distinctions for box, papers, tools. Current or last MSRP is $940.

Here's the 6-n Bbl track on the Plus version

Smith & Wesson 617 Plus Revolver in .22, Long Rifle. Bluebook of Gun Values (30th Edition) indicates between $476 in 98% condition and $633 in 100% condition for this gun. I have 40 recorded prices for this model gun from $350 to $625 over a period of 6 Yrs 4 Mos ending January 25, 2010. The average price as of that date was $454. No refurbs, no refinishes, regular sights, all represented as 95% or better, no distinction for import location or engineering revision, if any, no special editions, no distinctions for box, papers, tools. Current or last MSRP is $940.

and the chart of the data (a bit behind the track):

The BBGV difference for the 6-shot is $16 less than the 10-shot on both Bbl lengths.

 

[Blue Box]

Price the parts out in a brownells catalog asuming there is nothing wrong with them, a hammer, trigger, and scopemount could be well over $100.00! Makes the gun pretty good deal.

 

[Cool Hand Hodge]

I have a six shot 4 inch. I had to look for a couple of years to find it as this was the exact model i wanted. I paid over $700 considered it a bargain and would not sell it for $1500. Has saved me way more than that in ammo and introducing new shooters to wheelguns and the sport. I would buy em both...

 

[R. G. Amos]

If the trigger was worked on by S&W to reduce pull and not repair a defect and the revolver is as described, you got a good deal.

 

[1HAWKEYE]

Guys, Thanks for all the insite.I went through the brownells catalog all the parts add up to about 170.00 retail so I guess I did good on the gun.The rest of the parts will get moth balled for repairs of future Smiths.I've all ready put the trigger assembly in a minty 586-1 6" I got. Someone did a bad trigger job on it so it was pushing off on the s/a notch. As for the 617 shes a keeper it shoots all most as good as my 17-3 again thanks for the info. 1 Hawkeye