Did this K-Frame exist?

[jcelect]

....... what did they name the pre-19?????.

"Combat Masterpiece"
jcelect

 

[cmansguns]

Don't know if ICORE allows rifle bi-pods but you may wish you had one for this 8-3/8" Model 14-3!

From this thread I see 14-3 with full underlug, and then mine with the long pipe.....same engineering change, but different, so go figure..........probably the thing would have weighed in the carbine rifle range if equipped with full lug

 

[Doc44]

The .357 Combat Magnum became the Model 19, but never lost its original name. The .38 Combat Masterpiece became the Model 15.

Bill

 

[Muley Gil]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BAM-BAM View Post
....... what did they name the pre-19?????.
"Combat Masterpiece"
jcelect

No, the pre M15 is the Combat Masterpiece. The pre M19 is the Combat Magnum.

 

[BAM-BAM]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BAM-BAM View Post
....... what did they name the pre-19?????.
"Combat Masterpiece"
jcelect

No, the pre M15 is the Combat Masterpiece. The pre M19 is the Combat Magnum.

Now I don't feel so bad about forgetting what the pre-19 was named!!

 

[matteekay]

It seems like Smith builds more exceptions than they do rules, lol.

That full lug 14 is awesome looking. You said that's a round butt? When was it built?

 

[Engine49guy]

The names can be confusing,
Model 15, The K-38 Combat Masterpiece
Model 27, The .357 Magnum
Model 28, The Highway Patrolman
Model 19, The .357 Combat Magnum
Model 586, The .357 Distinguished Combat Magnum

BTW the full underlug Model 14's were available in 4", 6" and 8 3/8" lengths .

 

[k22fan]

While I do not like the way S&W transferred blued K frame .38 Special model numbers there was some logic involved. Traditionally Model 15s had skinny barrels and Model 14s had what were for the time heavy barrels. S&W discontinued the traditional skinny Combat Masterpiece barrels, kept the heavy barrels and added even heavier full lug barrels. Since what had been Model 14s became the lighter of the two offerings their number changed to 15 and 14 went on the full lug .38s so it would remain the number for the heaviest offering.

Locally the most competitive 6" revolver for firing .38s in matches that only allow loading 6 cartridges is a 6 shot full lug Model 686 L frame with its cylinder milled to accept full moon clips. I do not think the full lug Model 14 would have any advantage over a 686.

 

[lebomm]

Folks, let's not forget that model names were not discarded when numbers were assigned. The model 10 is still the .38 Military & Police,
the M19 is still the .357 Combat Magnum, the Model 58 is the .41 Military & Police, and so forth.

Larry

 

[Dave IL]

The names can be confusing,
Model 15, The K-38 Combat Masterpiece
Model 27, The .357 Magnum
Model 28, The Highway Patrolman
Model 19, The .357 Combat Magnum
Model 586, The .357 Distinguished Combat Magnum

BTW the full underlug Model 14's were available in 4", 6" and 8 3/8" lengths .

Add model 14 as the k-38 Target Masterpiece

 

[Doc44]

As long as we are discussing model numbers and names, take a look at this S&W sheet from 59/60.

Bill

 

[matteekay]

So yup, definitely exists. And now I have a 6" 14-3!

Rough finish but great action and lockup, and I got a good price on it. I'll give it my usual action tune and try it out at this month's match.

 

[JimBianchi]

I use a Model 14-3 for ICORE.

After shoot many other 6 inch guns, the 14 has the best action/trigger of the group. A competent gunsmith can tune a 686 or 19 or 66 and make it sing.

But a Model 14 get you there out of the box.

The guys in my ICORE league shoot a variety of guns, but the few of us who shoot Classic (unmodified 6 shot, no moon clips, speed loaders only), shoot either a 14 or a 19. But the guy shooting the 19 like mine enough to by a 14.

 

[matteekay]

I can understand why. I haven't shot this one yet, but it points incredibly naturally and has probably the best factory sights of any I've looked at.

Are Hogue Big Butts allowed in Classic? Or are they too far from stock?

 

[THE PILGRIM]

Great post Doc!
After looking it over, I see some old friends and some strangers.
The two I don't think I have never even seen are the 33 and the 35.

 

[JimBianchi]

Are Hogue Big Butts allowed in Classic? Or are they too far from stock?

Hogue is popular and permitted.

I prefer the Pachmayr Presentation Grip. Fits me perfectly.

 

[matteekay]

That's actually my #2 behind Hogues. I just avoid finger grooves because they never fit me quite right.