Did you serve on a battleship?

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I guess I'm the last guy to realize we don't have battleships anymore. Apparently no other Navy has them either.

I'd love to hear from anyone who served on one, and hear your thoughts on their demise.
 
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I'm interested in hearing from battleship vets, too. My understanding is that carriers rendered them obselete and indefensible from air attacks in any scenario but shore bombardment against enemies who don't have an air force or carriers.

Will be interested to hear from voices of experience and/or greater knowledge than I possess.

Andy
 
Two geographic names are the reason for the demise of BBs and their ilk. The RN attack on Taranto by the Fleet Air Arm (18 obsolete biplanes with torpedoes and bombs) in November of 1940. 3 BBs disabled. Two were later recovered, the third effectively scrapped post-war. Gave the RN the command of the Med until the Luftwaffe arrived 6 months later.The other, Pearl Harbor when the IJN blew away the idea that the Japanese could not fly or see in the dark, and if the third strike had gone forward against the 4.5 Million gallon oil farm as wanted by the IJN flyers, then the Pacific War would have been a bit longer as there were not sufficient oilers to replenish Pearl, so ships would have to have been based on the West Coast, 1800 miles East of Hawaii.

Aside from some of the battles off Savo Island which were BB versus BB and Suragao Strait (spelling) where USN veterans of Pearl Harbor met up with a rump of the IJN, there were no other BBs versus BBs. The CV put paid to them other than as escorts for CVs. The closest was the "Run North" by Willis Lee during the Leyte Gulf battle but the IJN fleet which was there as bait, survived due to the arrival of the main IJN force against the CVEs off of Samar.

The most heavily armed warship afloat at the moment aside from a CVN is the Russian Kirov class Peter the Great which was effectively designed as a CV killer due to a very heavy long-range guided missile outfit. No other surface vessel comes close. Dave_n
 
My father was on the Nevada (BB36) but transferred off 10 December 1941 to a light cruiser. He loaded powder on a 14" rifle. He is no longer with us so I can't ask any questions.
 
Never say Never

My Grandfather worked @ Fore River Shipyard
& helped build many WWII Warships
Including the USS Massachusetts

I have visited it since it became a Museum Ship in the 60's

When I was young I had Crutches & Braces
Now I have two below knee Prosthetics & artificial hips
& I am Really Physically Slowing Down too

On a recent Weekend Trip up North I visited BB-59 Again

If you pace yourself it's definitely doable
the USS North Carolina my be the closest to you





I believe the Iowas, Bismark and her sister and Yamato and hers were some of the most beautiful vessels ever built up to that time,

I would love to tour one of the floating museum battleships, but that will never happen now.
 
I was on the Missouri in Bremerton, WA during the '70s. Only the topside was open because she was in mothballs if they wanted to call her up. Reagan did so when he as pushing for a 600 ship fleet to threaten the Soviets with.

I toured Massachusetts later and most of the ship was open. It was like a small city with factories and foundries.

I worked with an Army SSgt who called in fire support from the Missouri. They would not fire unless you were a given range from the target. He was on one hill looking across a valley at another hill about 1/4 mile away. I don't know how many rounds he requested but the hill disappeared and he was covered in dirt.

I've read that Kuwait International Airport was shelled by Missouri during the first Gulf war. I've been to KIA many, many times and there is not a speck of water anywhere in sight.

I've heard it said that their analog firing computers are more accurate than digital computers. Certainly not since GPS though.
 
Yes, the Yamato is a beautiful ship when viewed from the air. Now the Iowa Class US battleships were small by comparison, but they were fast, well armed, and well armored. The Mo was a powerful ship to bring to a treaty signing after two airplanes vaporized a couple of cities sending an extremely powerful message to the world and basically ending WW-II.
 

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I was a ANGLICO ( Air Naval Gunfire Liaison Company) Marine. In 1983 I was stationed in Beirut and had the privilege of calling in fire missions from the New Jersey.
Between November and March 84 if I remember correctly she shot around 400 16" shells along with 300-400 5" shells in the direction of the Druze and Syrians.
Awesome sight. My uncle was on the Missouri during Korea, he said it was boring.
 
Didn't serve in one but my First CO had been a gunnery officer on the New Jersey when she was activated for Viet Nam. He said the concussion from a three gun salvo would knock the breath out of you if you were anywhere topside.

Have another friend who one one of the project officers for the Iowa re-activation in 1983-84. He has some interesting stories about the different proposals for configuration changes for the ships. Got invited to the recommissioning ceremony and got to sit in the second level VIP seating. Sat behind the Assistant Royal Navy Attache. Then Vice President Bush was the speaker. It was an interesting day.

She was moored almost bow to bow with the Yorktown (CG-48) which was to be commissioned a couple of months later. Iowa was a lot better looking.
 
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Dave_n said:
BB RN CVN CV RN IJN CVE

I do not know what most of these "sailor speak" abbreviations are.

Bekeart

BB = Battleship
RN = Royal Navy
CV = Aircraft Carrier
CVN = Nuclear-Powered Aircraft Carrier
CVE = Escort Carrier
IJN = Imperial Japanese Navy

A few more, for future reference...

CVL = Light Carrier
BC = Battlecruiser
CA = Heavy Cruiser
CL = Light Cruiser
CG = Guided-Missile Cruiser
CGN = Nuclear-Powered Guided-Missile Cruiser
DD = Destroyer
DDG = Guided-Missile Destroyer
SS = Submarine
SSBN = Nuclear-Powered Ballistic-Missile Submarine

That should hold you for awhile!
Tim
 

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