Disturbing memo from SG Ammo

Since the population in my state has gone up 400% since the good old hunting days...........
I am lucky to get a hunting tag every 5-7 years.

With the Factory ammo I bought twenty years ago,
I'm still good to go.

I can wait for the loose bullets for my target shooting, also.

Always nice to have a different caliber rifle and pistol for a backup, just in case ammo gets low.

More Popcorn !!
 
The other thing is that the manufacturers have to be ramping up production as fast as they can, there's money to be made here, and the faster they get the product out while prices are high, the more money they make. This will start to increase the supply curve after a while.
Since ammo is made with expensive automated machines manufacturers are limited by their machinery on how much they can ramp up production.

In decades past when demand was fairly steady it made sense to take a just in time approach and only invest in the plant necessary to just barely make enough ammo to meet demand. Now that panic buys are frequent and predictable you would think they would invest in having some excess capacity so they can sell more ammo when demand and prices are high.
 
I get annoyed everytime panic buying and hoarding happens, regardless of the cause.

There is always a small percentage of shooters who will buy up whatever they can find with an intent to re-sell at inflated prices. There are also a percentage of retailers who will inflate ammo prices - beyond their cost increases - in a time of crisis, citing "demand" and pushing it was far as the market will bear just to make extra profit.
People that buy up ammo are scalpers and I share your annoyance with them. I will never buy anything from them. Now and forever.

But I don't have a problem with retailers that price products high enough to stop hoarding. If I ever really, really needed just one box of ammo I would like the option of being able to go to a store that will sell it to me at twice the normal price. A store with empty shelves is of no use. Ideally, in times of hoarding stores would limit purchases of scarce items and jack up prices until people that have enough back home quit buying more and let the people that really need some buy a small quantity.
 
Between years of stocking up and Arthritis now limiting some of my handgun shooting activities I am confident that I have enough Handgun ammo and components on hand to last me for the rest of my life.
That was an epiphany I had, that lifetime warranties aren't a big deal to me anymore.
 
I learned from President Clinton. I stocked up on powder and primers Wednesday morning after President Obama's first election win. Gun show specials added to the inventory, and now a lifetime supply has been achieved without a reduction in shooting activities.

At age 72 that is easy to do.


I guess age has slowed you down some . I loaded up on components the day I found out Osama was running and then bought several thousand dollars worth twice more before he left office the first time .
 
One of the tragedies in the US today is that we've forgotten about ethics, more more correctly redefined ethics as "if it's not illegal, then it is moral and ethical". That applies to things like long range hunting, just as much as it does to people buying a store's entire stock of toilet paper to re-sell, just to make a buck.

If we don't stop acting as individuals with no thought to the common good and our moral and ethical obligation to help others when we can, within the scope of the constitution and individual rights, we soon won't have a nation worth living in.

If you can't help others, at least conduct yourselves in a manner that doesn't harm others or infringe on the rights of others. It's called "civility" and it's gone out of style.

Amen brother and X2...personal freedom rights to 'do what I want' does not supercede our collective freedom rights to surivve.
 
Fortunately I was buying ammo at every available opportunity since 2015, so I have a decent supply.

If more folks would only buy a box of ammo every couple of weeks to a month, then perhaps their wouldn't be a shortage. Sure, would-be scalper scumbags would still be scrambling to buy up dozens of boxes at the first sign of trouble, but the only person who would get screwed is them since everyone else would already be stocked up and thus nobody would buy their marked up ammo, nor would they need to because the ammo companies wouldn't have to scramble to meet demand.

Unfortunately, so long as people are driven by fear, motivated by panic, and continue to completely drop their guard during times of peace, this cycle will repeat itself indefinitely.
 
Just ordered 10,000 rounds (2 cases) of .22LR. Thanks for the tip!

I also shoot blackpowders and there is never a run on supplies for those as so few shoot them. I can always find powder, lead, flints for flintlocks or caps for caplocks.

Should be enough to hold me over until things smooth over. I really don’t shoot centerfire much at all, but have enough .45 ACP, .25 ACP, and 9mm Makarov to get my by for the foreseeable future for practicing for defense, and have a case of Federal Tactical 12 gauge buckshot for the home defense shotgun.
 
..... Sure, would-be scalper scumbags would still be scrambling to buy up dozens of boxes at the first sign of trouble, but the only person who would get screwed is them since everyone else would already be stocked up and thus nobody would buy their marked up ammo, nor would they need to because the ammo companies wouldn't have to scramble to meet demand......

Spring 2019: Federal 5250 rd case .22 lr 36 gr plated HP's, $199 before the $40 rebate. OK, send 2. I guarantee before Summer's end (unless madness subsides) folks will beg me for a box @$60. I guess I'd be a "scalperscumbag" if'n I turned that $320 worth of ammo into $1200. Which I won't. I'm too old to **** around for money that ain't "life changing." Joe
 
Spring 2019: Federal 5250 rd case .22 lr 36 gr plated HP's, $199 before the $40 rebate. OK, send 2. I guarantee before Summer's end (unless madness subsides) folks will beg me for a box @$60. I guess I'd be a "scalperscumbag" if'n I turned that $320 worth of ammo into $1200. Which I won't. I'm too old to **** around for money that ain't "life changing." Joe

Good call, best to just be a decent human being and not take advantage of panicking people for the sake of profit, saves you the hassle of deathbed repentance.
 
Dave,

During normal times, the manufacturers may be producing ammo for say 50 hours per week, they could always up it to 90-100 hours per week which would nearly double their output. They'd have to hire some temporary workers, which would impact their efficiency, but it's doable.

And you are exactly right, this isn't the first panic buy we've seen, you'd think they would have at least some excess machinery available to turn on when necessary. I guess it depends on how strong the bean counter influence is at a particular manufacturer.
 
I saw the same add. Basic 9mm ball ammo is now .26+ a round. At that price I can probably justify loading up the components I have on hand for my wifes 6906.
 
Although we all know that once prices on anything shoot up, they're unlikely to go back to where they started, but there are signs of hope.

No surprise that 9mm, .223, 5.56, and 7.62/39 are most affected, but I'm seeing other calibers seem to be getting back to normal. For example, .38 has similar pricing to where we started, and some places have .357 that's close to pre-panic levels.

Exactly. Just got quite a deal on .32 Long. ;) I imagine demand for "weird" calibers will remain fairly constant.
 
SG's ammo prices are a touch on the higher side. I would deal with these folks AimSurplus, Llc. if I needed ammo. A local shop was able to buy ammo from Aim, when his distributor could not fill his order.
 
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