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Saw a beaut of a gun 19-4 with a box and papers(not sure if they were original to the gun). 4" brl, square butt, presentation grips, and they were trying to talk me out of it. didn't go home with it today. but if it's there next weekend, at least layaway. but my question...

would 460 be a good deal or should i try to haggle?
 
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If you don't need it don't buy it. Recently I was able to buy a 19-3 in presentation box and never fired with S&W coin and Key to box. Dealer had 4 of them at $300 each. ( LAPD stamped ) I knew it was a good buy and made about $100 off it. What can you make off the 19-4 if you get it home, stare, play, shoot it? Maybe, what you paid not considering time, effort, trying to sell it. If you need it for legit reason buy it, otherwise be patient, these guns are coming on the market more than ever. It's not a steal no matter how many people tell you they would have bought it. I have a 13-3 3 inch that many say they would love to own. I bought it never fired owned it twenty years and can't get $700 for it on gun sites. I, or you will never get rich owning these revolvers. So, as a word to the wise, if you have unlimited funds and need this gun buy it now, if you could use the money elsewhere, and have other classic revolvers be patient, they are coming on the market more than ever. Just look around these sites, " Gun Show Steal ' Gun Show Find" or the best yet " I Won this on " on EBay. There is a reason these are coming around so frequently now, older population, less cash available, less desirability except from segregated populace. I'm not saying these are'nt great weapons, just saying everyone here buying anything they can, may be in for a awakening later on. I do wish all to be safe and enjoy all they own.,
 
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well, hopefully it'll still be there. and it's location will be my secret if that's your guys intentions.

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With all due respect to florida1098, I totally disagree. There are more knowlegable guys on this forum than about anywhere else you can look, and you'll find the general consensus to be that, that is a good deal for that gun in that condition.


1- They aren't making these guns anymore, and no modern copy will ever be the same.

2- There may be more of these guns coming into play right now, but like it always does, the economy will rebound (at least somewhat), and people will once again be looking for, and holding onto these guns.

3- The joy of owning something so fine is reason enough to buy it, even if you pay a little more than someone thinks you should have.

4- If all you are after is a quick buck, then this may not be the best time for such pursuits, at least with the current economy, but if you truly enjoy collecting, owning or shooting vintage works of art, go for it!

5- No matter what the deal you get turns out to be, there is almost always someone who comes along to rain on your parade with a better deal that they just got.

6- I realize that we all want the best deal possible, but don't worry about what anyone else thinks. If you never tell us what you paid, you'll be the only one who knows, other than the place that you buy it from. If you can live with the price that you pay, and are happy with what you bought, that's all that really matters.:)
 
Saw a beaut of a gun 19-4 with a box and papers(not sure if they were original to the gun). 4" brl, square butt, presentation grips, and they were trying to talk me out of it. didn't go home with it today. but if it's there next weekend, at least layaway. but my question...

would 460 be a good deal or should i try to haggle?

It never hurts to "haggle".
 
If you need a .357, I would say the M19 would be a good place to start. I paid $399 for my M19-3 a few years ago. It was in good overall condition, with a great trigger and double action, but also appeared to have been shot quite a bit. Even though it is a little "loose" it is still the best shooting revolver in my stable. Good friends are hard to come by, but apparently, good advice is even harder to find.
 
I wish I had every M19 I ever owned . First one was in 1982 and I was 19 years old and in the NAVY , my barracks mate at A-school was in a jam with a dear John letter from his girl friend at home . He needed money and all I had was $150.00 . He pulled out this brand new 6" S&W Mod. 19 in the box and in our barracks . The barracks part was not good but I got over it . He said $150.00 and it's yours . And that was my first hand gun purchase . I sold it six years later to another NAVY friend for about $400.00 . He was in need of a gun and I didn't want to sell it and I thought that the price being so high that he would pass , but he didn't . I wish I still had that gun and all my others .
I say get it .
 
1- They aren't making these guns anymore, and no modern copy will ever be the same.

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3- The joy of owning something so fine is reason enough to buy it, even if you pay a little more than someone thinks you should have.

The exact two reasons I picked up a very nice albeit shooter grade M19-3 last year.

S&W will NEVER spend the time hand fitting anything new like they did 30+ years ago. It's not economical for them to do so. And nothing is sweeter than a vintage S&W trigger smoothed first at the factory, then by years of work.

As to value, I bought mine for $399 with a case, 2 holsters (one near new), a box of ammo and an hour of range time. Solid lock-up, perfect timing. I've seen them for much more at local shops and gun shows...so I don't think I overpaid for it. Regardless, I haven't regretted the purchase for one second since - especially on the rare occasion I take it to the range. It is the smoothest, sweetest and most accurate gun in my stable.

I say do it, but haggle them down if you can.
 
Why Not?

None of the guns I own are actually needed. They're all wanted. I've spent money in foolish ways w/out getting the long term satisfaction my "collection" has given me.
I'm not spending the mortgage or food money.
I don't view the guns I've aquired as an investment, however should I choose to sell some I don't expect to take much of a loss.
I'll often see where someone has gotten a better "deal" on a gun I recently got, bottom line for me is "Am I content with my purchase?"
While these guns are in my care I get to take them out and shoot them, can't get much better than that.
Good Luck, Kevin
 
I picked up a 19-3 2.5" about a month ago by trading a Dan Wesson model 15 6".

I saw one at a show this weekend that was like new with the box and he wanted $650 for it. I believe this to be too high by about $125. Keep in mind that this just my opinion and that I usually don't mind paying a little more than most people for a nice gun. :)
 
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None of the guns I own are actually needed. They're all wanted. I've spent money in foolish ways w/out getting the long term satisfaction my "collection" has given me.
I'm not spending the mortgage or food money.
I don't view the guns I've aquired as an investment, however should I choose to sell some I don't expect to take much of a loss.
I'll often see where someone has gotten a better "deal" on a gun I recently got, bottom line for me is "Am I content with my purchase?"
While these guns are in my care I get to take them out and shoot them, can't get much better than that.
Good Luck, Kevin

+1 What Kevin said.........
 
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Not a great or bad price.

If they were really your friends, they should have stood there belittling/nit-picking the gun in front of the seller in hopes of you having an easy time haggling the sellers price down.
 
i bought a 19-5 about 2 weeks ago for $425 otd hardly a turn ring with target grips that sang like the sirens i thought it was high. i guess i should go apologize to the gun shop owner for low balling him. i feel really bad now. i may just offer him double for the next one that i get. Doeboy
 

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