Actually I picked up a new vehicle to keep handy and has everything I need inside, but finding parking places up front is kind of tough..
I would think it would find it's own parking space!!! Be Safe,
Do recent events alter your perspective?
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I would think it would find it's own parking space!!! Be Safe,
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That is not true of all states. For example here in my state, I can be armed in an establishment that serves alcohol, but I can't be partaking.
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Same here in Buckeye Land.
"Senate Bill 17, which became effective on September 30, 2011, allows people who have permits to carry concealed firearms into business establishments, such as restaurants and bars, which sell alcoholic beverages. Previously, the law strictly prohibited the carrying of firearms into businesses selling alcoholic beverages."
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Shooter in his manifesto made a point of using soft targets, and avoiding law enforcement. As far as Texans carrying IIRC only 3.5% of the population have LTC permits, and of those probably only half carry. Typically Walmarts are not GFZ, but it is possible this one was, I don't know since I have heard no accurate reports on it.
As far as a handgun being a match to a rifle, it all depends on the skill of the shooter. I have never heard of anyone being shot to incapacitation, and being able to continue shooting after dead just because they have a rifle. Rifles have advantages BUT they do not make shooters superman.
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My state has a goofy rule re alcohol. You can’t carry into an establishment that derives 50% or more of it’s revenue from alcohol sales. Bar’s and liquor stores are no brainers, but it’s kind of a crapshoot with restaurants that serve drinks.
Not everywhere.
Not certain of the context to your post but civilized states like New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Maryland do NOT prohibit CCW in bars or other places that serve alcohol. Patrons can consume alcohol, too.
Be safe.
Not certain of the context to your post but civilized states like New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Maryland do NOT prohibit CCW in bars or other places that serve alcohol. Patrons can consume alcohol, too.
Be safe.
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Missouri allows one to engage in a lawful act of self defense while intoxicated . . .
All of which are "may issue" states. Great if you're "connected".
Guess the hoi polloi don't get to protect themselves in bars etc.
fredj338
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No one would think a Wally would be a target either. In todays world, assuming your fight is going to be a mugger is just myopic at best.
fredj338
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I guess you missed the sarcasm. For those that say the chance of a violent attack are so small, then why carry at all? Why, because the small % doesn't matter if it is you. So I wont assume my attack will be a 150# tweeker I can handle without the gun. No I have no idea what will happen, so I carry suitable pistol in suitable caliber to be able to survive what ever fight comes at me. This would include a guy with a rile at close range.
Sounds like New Mexico
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I'm camped in a town that was once bub'd 'Little Chicago' for it's crime and violence.
I proceed each day with preparedness in mind.
I proceed each day with preparedness in mind.
Okaaaaaaaay...let’s add a few more states.
Adding a few to my list: Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Kentucky are ‘shall issue’ states who trust their gun toting citizens. I am fairly sure there are additional states that trust their citizens to engage in lawful activities whilst engaging in another.
PS: I do know PA and KY are actually Commonwealths.
Be safe.
Adding a few to my list: Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Kentucky are ‘shall issue’ states who trust their gun toting citizens. I am fairly sure there are additional states that trust their citizens to engage in lawful activities whilst engaging in another.
PS: I do know PA and KY are actually Commonwealths.
Be safe.
All of which are "may issue" states. Great if you're "connected".
Guess the hoi polloi don't get to protect themselves in bars etc.
I don't and I live in one of the most dangerous cities in the US according to all kinds of stats. I'm not living my life like I'm living a war zone - I'm not. BTDT.
The probability of me being the .0000001% "gun violence" victim is .0000001%. Home invasions, even less. So I'll put on sunscreen before I go out in the day to protect myself from getting melanoma as that's far more likely to kill me - especially living at high altitude and 300+days a year sunshine.
The fact is, I'm far, far, far, more likely to be involved in a fatal car accident on the roads of New Mexico. That's my biggest threat.
If you all want to live your lives like you're living in a war zone, with all the stresses that go with it, have at it!
Actually, outside NYC getting a gun permit is not all that difficult, it just takes some time as the process is slow and cumbersome, by design.
The further you get from NYC the easier it gets. I lived in a county of 100,000 people with 13,000+ carry permits issued. I still have mine
Have you ever heard of the two inmates who broke out of Dannemora prison a few years back? The joke was the troopers better find the two before the locals do.
NYS is gun country as much as anywhere else, but the pols in NYC dominate the legislature.
When told to register their AR’s, the state got a 4% compliance with their subjects.
The further you get from NYC the easier it gets. I lived in a county of 100,000 people with 13,000+ carry permits issued. I still have mine
Have you ever heard of the two inmates who broke out of Dannemora prison a few years back? The joke was the troopers better find the two before the locals do.
NYS is gun country as much as anywhere else, but the pols in NYC dominate the legislature.
When told to register their AR’s, the state got a 4% compliance with their subjects.
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fredj338
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I tend to agree, to a point. I have lived in Kalif on & off for 40y. My permit to carry has also been on & off. Currently I do have the a permit & carry when away from home. No I don't bother going armed to the store for milk at 11pm, its a pretty safe city. BUT, when it does happen, & it will, I will regret not being armed if that fight comes. Its just about being prepared. Like having a fire extinguisher or wearing a seatbelt. I have never needed either but don't shun them either. I am sure many of those in ElPaso or Dayton wished they had been armed & trained & had the skill to survive their attacks.Ματθιας;140510163 said:
So IMO, if you are carrying a gun, then you have a responsibility to know how to use it effectively. Otherwise you are just as likely to injure yourself or another as a bad guy. In todays world just about anything can & will happen. So taking responsibility for my own safety is very valid. No LEO will be there to save my life if I am in that small % of being attacked. It will fall on me. SO I choose to be ready. No I don't stress over it, I enjoy shooting, training & practicing. It is more diff going about my day armed but I am fine with the trade off in convenience.
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kthom
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A very good plan for every day where ever you venture forth, regardless of the reputation it has!
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Even if one doesn't carry, these events SHOULD be in everyone's mind... and SHOULD have been all along. In a crisis, people generally try to escape via the door they came in.
Some years ago there was a tragic nightclub fire near me with much loss of life... with piles of bodies blocking the main entrance. The Station nightclub fire - Wikipedia
Your typical WM store has multiple front entrances, numerous auxiliary fire exits, a garden shop, an automotive entrance, warehouse doors. Evacuating through a rear exit makes a whole lot of sense. .. away from the crush, away from the crowd. Sure, you'll have to walk around this big building to reach your auto. Big deal! Getting you and yours away from danger is the priority.
In some of the articles I've read in the last few days point out that hiding in a bathroom or other area with no exit is not a sound strategy. We saw the result in the Pulse shooting.
My point is, to identify exits when there is no emergency... notice which doors have EXIT signs over them... know the floor plan well enough that you could possibly evade a hostile.
Some years ago there was a tragic nightclub fire near me with much loss of life... with piles of bodies blocking the main entrance. The Station nightclub fire - Wikipedia
Your typical WM store has multiple front entrances, numerous auxiliary fire exits, a garden shop, an automotive entrance, warehouse doors. Evacuating through a rear exit makes a whole lot of sense. .. away from the crush, away from the crowd. Sure, you'll have to walk around this big building to reach your auto. Big deal! Getting you and yours away from danger is the priority.
In some of the articles I've read in the last few days point out that hiding in a bathroom or other area with no exit is not a sound strategy. We saw the result in the Pulse shooting.
My point is, to identify exits when there is no emergency... notice which doors have EXIT signs over them... know the floor plan well enough that you could possibly evade a hostile.
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