Do they have the shooter? YES!

[mreed911]

Just saw pics of the gun used. Looking at suspect and gun it's a wonder he hit anything. I can't imagine what the suspects father is feeling. So many life's ruined by this act.

Why? A 200 yard shot with a .30-06 hunting rifle isn't anything extraordinary, and from the looks of the angle and impact, he failed to aim lower since he was shooting from a higher position. He likely aimed center chest and made a neck hit from mis-aiming and not calculating wind (haven't looked to see if wind was left-to-right from the shooter's vantage yet).

This just underscores that for all the "Reee!" about AR's and such (which comparably aren't "high-powered" in .223, and not really in .300BO), old-school hunting rifles are just as capable on a single-shot basis and in hunting calibers, quite a bit more deadly. They're just not suited for multiple-target engagements as much.

If you were some sort of sleeper cell agent and wanted to stay under the radar, you'd be at the range with a hunting rifle and paper targets of deer, building your skills at range.

Not glorifying the shooter in the least here - just pointing out that despite the reporting, this isn't any huge, scary, special, CIA-only feat. It's a regular shot for many hunters... and a SHORT shot for folks hunting exotics in the mountains, where 400y isn't off the table.

 

[16thVACav]

If you have to resort to violence in political discourse, your position is weak.

 

[mreed911]

curious if the ATF ran a serial number search on the rifle...even of where/how he obtained it. yes I heard it was legally bought

I'm always curious why people want to know this. In Utah, he could have purchased it from an FFL or person-to-person, and I haven't seen anything that would flag him as a prohibited person.

 

[mreed911]

If you have to resort to violence in political discourse, your position is weak.

But violence - especially assassinations - have been the "weakness" that have started quite a few wars.

 

[mreed911]

I heard that the father talked to his pastor first and then turned his son in. I' wonder if he'll claim the $100K reward...

We locked a previous thread on the Kirk assassination because it went political. Don't do that here....

Reports are also that that pastor was a police officer, and part of a US Marshall's Task Force.

 

[smithman 10]

Wager that a high percentage of folks who post here could have made a shot like that.

Means simply that security needs to be heavily upgraded at ALL political events in the future.

 

[mreed911]

What are we teaching our young?

At risk of replies to this going political: We're teaching our young about rights without accompanying responsibilities. We're now seeing the results of that.

 

[ladder13]

If you have to resort to violence in political discourse, your position is weak.

one of the many points made by Charley Kirk.

 

[Ματθιας]

Death is too good for that guy. He's young, I want him to live a long miserable life behind the wall.

 

[ladder13]

I'll wager he would have been apprehended pretty soon anyway, the heat was on…

I'm quite sure some of the tracking info, photos, and videos may have had a wee bit to do with it.

 

[dockmurgw]

What little I have to say can be said without crossing any lines. The reckless and continuous misuse of the word engraved on the ammo is the direct cause of this. An undisputable fact.

 

[dockmurgw]

Death is too good for that guy. He's young, I want him to live a long miserable life behind the wall.

I would usually agree with this, but I wish this mut was found with a hole in the cranium. Now we, and especially the family of the victim, have to endure the spectacle of what will follow.

 

[AudieMurphy]

I'm always curious why people want to know this. In Utah, he could have purchased it from an FFL or person-to-person, and I haven't seen anything that would flag him as a prohibited person.

so your curious, why others are curious..hhhmmmm. interesting

 

[Bald1]

Why? A 200 yard shot with a .30-06 hunting rifle isn't anything extraordinary, and from the looks of the angle and impact, he failed to aim lower since he was shooting from a higher position. He likely aimed center chest and made a neck hit from mis-aiming and not calculating wind (haven't looked to see if wind was left-to-right from the shooter's vantage yet).

This just underscores that for all the "Reee!" about AR's and such (which comparably aren't "high-powered" in .223, and not really in .300BO), old-school hunting rifles are just as capable on a single-shot basis and in hunting calibers, quite a bit more deadly. They're just not suited for multiple-target engagements as much.

If you were some sort of sleeper cell agent and wanted to stay under the radar, you'd be at the range with a hunting rifle and paper targets of deer, building your skills at range.

Not glorifying the shooter in the least here - just pointing out that despite the reporting, this isn't any huge, scary, special, CIA-only feat. It's a regular shot for many hunters... and a SHORT shot for folks hunting exotics in the mountains, where 400y isn't off the table.

I realize all that. I've shot countless deer and woodchucks at those distances. But did you see the gun? A kindergartner could do a better job mounting a scope.
The distance was 520' or 173 yds. Elevation and shot angle played almost no roll. If going center mass he missed by 10". My point was looking at gun it did not instill confidence in me that he'd be accurate. And I don't think he was.

 

[Bald1]

I heard that the father talked to his pastor first and then turned his son in. I' wonder if he'll claim the $100K reward...

We locked a previous thread on the Kirk assassination because it went political. Don't do that here....

My understanding is that someone came forward and added $1M to the reward. The father should claim it and donate it to the 2 kids that lost their father.

 

[Bald1]

He was turned in by his father, not a lot of work involved.

I think that comment is insulting to all the law enforcement agencies involved. They knew who did it long before he surrendered.

 

[Bald1]

Wager that a high percentage of folks who post here could have made a shot like that.

Means simply that security needs to be heavily upgraded at ALL political events in the future.

I think Kirk's paid security team failed him. There is video from the same vantage point they had of a guy walking on roof then laying down. I would think after the Butler PA incident security would be hyper aware of rooftops and windows.

 

[mreed911]

A kindergartner could do a better job mounting a scope.

You're assuming the rifle was fired in the condition found, not taking into consideration dropping it off a roof, banging it on things running, and dropping it in the woods.

Not great mounting, but if all he needed was the center crosshair, even if that was how it was mounted it would do.

 

[Ματθιας]

So, I saw the supposed video of the guy running a jumping off the roof. Where was the rifle? Are there other videos of him with It? He supposedly hid it in his pants and was walking with a limp. When he was running, he didn't seem to have it with him. Then the rifle is found in the woods. The narrative is not making sense to me.

 

[Bald1]

You're assuming the rifle was fired in the condition found, not taking into consideration dropping it off a roof, banging it on things running, and dropping it in the woods.

Not great mounting, but if all he needed was the center crosshair, even if that was how it was mounted it would do.

Yeah ok. Based on all your replies you are here simply to be contrarian. Argue for the sake of arguing.