Do you leave your gun in your vehicle?

Absolutely not. If it's not on my person it's locked in the safe. Leaving a firearm unattended, even in a locked vehicle, is negliegent in my opinion.

I do not consider that negligent. If it is it is the owner of the sign that was negligent putting up the sign. When I traveled this month about 70 miles to visit a relative in the hospital, I was not aware that the hospital had a legally enforceable sign. I was compelled to leave the gun in my locked vehicle in order to comply with Texas Law. I maintain that if something happened, it was the hospital's responsibility to prevent a vehicle breakin in their parking lots. While I don't agree that the hospital should put up the legally enforceable signs, if I am a law abiding citisen, I must comply with Texas law. Had I carried it into the hsopital I would have been violating the law. On the other hand, I cannot compel the hospital to change their policy, nor to make an exception just for me. I believe that when a property owner puts up a legal sign at their business, and a customer parks in their lot, and does business with them, should their vehicle be broken into and a weapon removed, from a locked vehicle, then that business including the hospital in this case ought to be liable financially for any resulting criminal activity that mght happen.
The safest place for my gun is on me, but I cannot force the hospital to recognize that. If businesses were held financially responsible for crime on their property it might change their attitude toward CHL. I know at least one doctor who works at St Michael's in Texarkana, who is gun friendly, but he does not own nor run it. Had my vehicle been broken into because of St Michael's policy, I do not consider that it was due to my negligence.
 
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Absolutely not. If it's not on my person it's locked in the safe. Leaving a firearm unattended, even in a locked vehicle, is negliegent in my opinion.
I am not a negligent person when I leave my gun in my car anymore than I am negligent when a piece of trash breaks in my house and steals something. It is not my fault that there are pieces of trash that want to steal and prey on the public and blame other people for their sorry ways. I would be negligent to leave a loaded gun on a playground but my gun in my car is my business and if someone bothers either one they are a piece of trash that is violating the law. I AM NOT NEGLIGENT! Larry
 
I will choose not to do business when possible with a place that won't allow me to carry, but sometimes I choose to leave my gun in my vehicle. For example not being able to carry into a sporting event/arena, but the parking area surrounding that stadium might not be in the best neighborhoods. I still want my gun as soon as I can get back to my car.
I do always lock my car and my gun is locked in a pretty strong safe (7 ga steel) bolted to the the floor. I would hate to see it stolen, but I think I am making a reasonable effort as a responsible gun owner and also trying to obey the law.

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When I go into a place I can't carry in. Ex. Hospitals. I leave my firearm unloaded in the glove box and take the ammo with me.

Don't need to walk up on someone who broke into my truck and get shot with my own firearm.
 
When I go into a place I can't carry in. Ex. Hospitals. I leave my firearm unloaded in the glove box and take the ammo with me.

Don't need to walk up on someone who broke into my truck and get shot with my own firearm.

I think that is a good suggestion. I don't do it because most of my extra ammo is speedloaders in a shirt pocket. If I took the rounds out of the gun I would have to reload them in the parking lot before leaving. When I left in my case, after leaving the hospital I got turned around on a road trying to get across town through a Ghetto looking neigbhorhood, and had to break out my GCPS to guide me to a main thru fare on the other side of town. All the road work going on does not help.
 
What - It ain't cheatin' unless you get caught?"

Your fallacy is in saying that you only break the law if you get caught breaking the law. Kind of like saying your wife is having an affair only if you actually see her in bed with another man...

And you're having way too much fun pulling our collective leg.

Good Day.

I'm not pulling anybodies leg. I'm dead serious.

If you can't understand that I/we have the right to protect ourselves anywhere by any means possible, then we have nothing more to discuss.
 
I have a metal lock box with a cable that attaches to the seat frame.

Me too. And it slides between the seat and console in my truck so you'd never see it if you didn't know it was there. I only use it for places I am running in quick where I can't carry. Such as picking up my kid at school.
 
I have a metal lock box with a cable that attaches to the seat frame. If l find myself in a situation where l need to leave a weapon in my vehicle while attending a function, l simply lock it in the box and retrieve it when l return to the vehicle. It gives me peace of mind knowing my weapon is secure in my vehicle during my absence.

One like this?
Found this online yesterday. I know the cable is easily cut with a pair of dykes, but I thought you would have to at least bend the box up a little to pry into it. They are only 18ga so they aren't very strong anyway. Appears to not have much of a weld on the latch.
Unfortunately, there aren't that many good products available that are small and convenient to use to secure your gun in a car. At least in larger vehicles like trucks and SUV's you usually have a little more room for something better.
 

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OK, so my new Carryvault handgun safe arrived today. I went to pick it up off of the porch, and the first thing I noticed is how much it weighs (27lbs). It's twice as heavy and the steel is twice as thick as anything I saw at Cabelas.
I can easily fit any of my handguns, a box of ammo, my safety glasses, and earplugs in it. It will be nice for bringing to the range.
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Here it is mounted in my H3:
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I'm not sure I completely trust the fact that its held to the floor with 5 self tapping screws, so i might swap them for some carriage bolts tomorrow.
It's definitely what I was looking for. I will feel MUCH more comfortable leaving my handgun in my car for a few hours now.
Thanks for all the advice. Gotta go catch the debate.
Just saw your post, that safe is something I'll look into too. It is crazy how off topic these discussions can get.
 
I hate to be critical, but why would anyone want to announce this information on a public forum????
 
Maybe you need someone like Chuck to watch your car?

DEATH WISH 3 (1985): "It's MY CAR!" - YouTube

LULZ!!!!

Because Charles Bronson was a do-gooder architect turned vigilante. Watch the films in their entirety. When you experience evil it will raise your awareness (which also means vigilance - a thirst for justice).

I am just an armed intern architect. Cities and definitely under policed (can't believe I am typing that!) rural areas at construction sights are rough. Thank you Second Amendment!

Don't mock him in those films, though they are campy because the reality is far worse than that simple scene.

Carry as much as you can.

What really humors me is after you watch that video:

Best Beer Commercial
"never hungry always thirsty for beer video!"

YES.
 
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Not anymore. The one and only time I did, my Model 60 was stolen. I went through hell when it happened and more hell to get it back 14 years later.

If it's obvious that I'm going to be defeated by a metal detector and my badge is not going to help (which has happened only twice) I either don't go in, or if what I need to get done is important enough, there's always a court facility nearby where the sympathetic security personnel will allow me to lock it up there until I need it back.

Leaving a gun in a vehicle is an invitation to disaster.

Dave Sinko

I assume you're a LEO and I'm trying to figure out what two places your badge didn't help.

Federal court?
 
This thread interested me because I obtained my CCL not too long ago. I also have reservations about leaving my firearm in my unattended vehicle. The problem is that I can't carry where I work, or many other places (already mentioned earlier by others) I normally go. The result is when I leave home the majority of time, I don't have my firearm with me. That for all intents and purposes makes my CCL irrelevant.

I bought a combination lock box with a tethered cable like a few others have. Even though I think this is a better option than leaving my firearm in my glove box or trunk, I still feel unsettled and usually leave my firearm home in the safe instead.

Based on what I've read in this thread, it basically boils down to what each individual person is comfortable with. Perhaps as I gain experience I may become more comfortable using my lock box. I do like that it stows out of sight and supplies some modicum of security. But I also understand a determined thief can breach it.

For now I only use my lock box when I go somewhere I didn't expect to go, that prohibits concealed carry. I still leave the pistol home when I know I'm going to work or other places I can't carry my firearm. Sigh!
 
A stolen gun is a misfortune.

A felony conviction (and permanent loss of 2nd Amendment rights) for carrying where you're not supposed to is a disaster.

I'm not willing to risk losing my guns and going to jail because I feel like I should be allowed to carry at all times. The reason they allow us our CPLs is that they believe we are honest, law-abiding citizens. Purposely breaking the law to carry a gun tells me maybe you shouldn't carry at all.

I'm against some gun-free zones, but that's the law and it must be followed.
 
I am not allowed to carry at my day job, but also own my own business and have a few rental properties. When I leave work I go by the business and collect the cash and receipts from the previous day and once a month I collect rent which a few tenants pay in cash. As such I will not leave my gun at home and keep a safe secured in the car for storage while I am at my day job. If I am not at my day job I am carrying all of the time.
 

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