Dogs again

[wingriderz]

This issuse could happen around us. My point is what would you do ? Here goes . You live rural aera. Your property is on fenced chain link. You have had neighbors pit bull type dogs loose that have chased folks in past.Fridays are trash days so you have to take cans to front road. Roads aren't paved. Let's say you have major health issuse and on massive blood thiners also a dog bite could be very bad news . Ok your takeing trash out your gate. The bad dog comes running down your fence line. Growling showing teeth. You say stay or stop loud voice . Dog keeps comeing. What do you do put a round off in ground to scare off dog or do you drop dog? My thing is what is cop gonna say either way?

 

[Rowlette]

Call the dog catcher.. Humane society.... Etc. Have the owners put on notice.

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[CATI1835]

Call the dog catcher.. Humane society.... Etc. Have the owners put on notice.

No "dog catcher" where I live. The Sherrif's Department does not respond to loose animal calls. The local Humane Society makes you bring the animal to them. I say use your best judgement. That might include putting them down, especially if they are on my property.

 

[nachogrande]

ON YOUR SIDE/PROPERTY, NO BRAINER.

CYA by getting it on record with animal control, police & a heads up to the neighbor. Count on a soured relationship/retallitation if it comes to a dead dog.

 

[Scorpion520AZ]

"What do you do put a round off in ground to scare off dog or do you drop dog?"


Report EVERY single, aggressive dog act / incident to your local Animal Control Department. If there isn't a designated AC, then the local police. Document every call, date, time, name of person you spoke with, names of responders, etc. You need to establish a record of reported aggression. The "response" isn't the important issue. You documenting your call to authorities is very important.

I come across loose, aggressive dogs on my treks once in awhile. Along with your handgun, purchase and carry a good quality Pepper Spray, the same kind carried by police, postal workers, UPS, FedEx, etc. I've used it, it's very effective.

If the aggressive dog comes within range of the pepper spray, give him a good dose right in his face. The dog will be fine. Cold water rinse and time is the antidote. I doubt 'that' dog will come too close to you again.

If you believe you're about to be bitten, do what you have to do. I'm not a proponent of warning shots. You may want to get an opinion on that from a defense attorney in your local jurisdiction. Good Luck.

 

[Rpg]

Talk to the neighbors: explain your situation and your concerns about the dog.

Get a can of bear spray (much easier to handle than the little pepper spray containers folks carry on keychains and much more effective).

 

[Vbk76]

You said rural

Old country saying
Shoot,shovel,shut up

 

[dougb1946]

Raise a few chickens for the eggs. Most rural areas permit shooting a dog that attacks livestock. You can also charge the dog owner for dead livestock. Note: the problem is not the dog but the dogs owner. free running dogs are dangerous to livestock, kids, and themselves. Otherwise, start a program to civilize the dog. A pocket full of treats and a little time talking softly to the dog. When the dog starts living with you, the actual owner may not even realize its not his dog any more.

 

[nachogrande]

OTOH...

Sometimes it's a case of dogs doing what dogs do. I hunted an old dairy farm property a while back. They had dogs, horses, bulls etc. A dog treat every time I showed up & they quickly learned the sound of MY truck & became happy to see me. Guessing you take the garbage out & check the mailbox fairly often??? A box of dog biscuits won't break the bank & the dog may become a security asset for you. I've seen a bunch of mail persons handing out treats. AS ALWAYS if your life is truly in danger, do what you must.

 

[Pisgah]

Around here, a cop isn't going to say a thing to you except "Good shooting" unless you endangered other folks while carrying out the shooting in a reckless manner. This county has a very strict leash law, and a loose dog misbehaving in any manner -- being aggressive, turning over trashcans, just trespassing on your property -- is fair game. Back when I worked at 911, one of our most frequent calls was, "My neighbor shot my dog!" A deputy would go out and check the situation, and I never knew one to take any action at all against a shooter -- although I knew of several who arrested irate dog owners threatening the person who did the shooting.

 

[ken158]

Tough call and many good answers have been included. Check your county, state code first see your legal options. Send a letter to the dog owner, or have an attorney send a letter with a copy to the Sheriff. If the dog is on your property, your standing is much higher. If the dog is being aggressive maybe get a quick phone video. If you are injured, file a civil claim regardless of the outcome of the dog. You have the right of self defense...

 

[richbuff]

All politics is local. The law where I live clearly says one thing: City discharge firearm is allowed if: "9. In self-defense or defense of another person against an animal attack if a reasonable person would believe that deadly physical force against the animal is immediately necessary and reasonable under the circumstances to protect oneself or the other person."

The problem is that in my town in Arizona, where this law and its exception 9 applies, a person can expect to spend a night in jail when his case clearly falls under this exception.

"Dogs again", this topic comes up for me regularly, 180 miles walking per month in nice single family residential neighborhoods. Sunday morning, July 10th, yet again. I have only one ankle to support a full one-half of my body for the rest of my life, and I will defend it to prevent any injury to it or to any proximal or distal portion of my body; no matter how unimportant anyone thinks that portion of my body is to them. By the way, when I phoned the police on Sunday morning to report the charging dog, the desk person could not hear me due to very strong wind. She repeated this three times while I was attempting to phone in my report. I blurted out "That is why I don't carry pepper spray!"

I don't have time to mess with (illegal?) warning shots. I don't have time to try a psychological stop. Humans and dogs regularly ignore sensory irritants to acquire the target.

Here is an analogy: Alcohol and tobacco are to dangerous drugs as dogs are to dangerous animals. Alcohol and tobacco are socially accepted dangerous drugs, and dogs are socially accepted dangerous animals. But, when I walk down the street, alcohol and tobacco do not run up to me with deadly intent.

This mornings news, dead baby, dog owner sings same old song: "He was always so nice and friendly with the baby. We don't know what could have gotten into him."

Cars, trucks, doorknobs, bed sheets, knives, guns, handkerchiefs, gasoline and drugs are all inanimate objects. They do not exhibit any unpredictable deadly behavior. Someones' at-large dog is on a much higher danger level. If it gets within 21 feet of me, too fast, too furious, focusing all of its obvious rage at me, when I have a very few tenths of a second left to stop the threat, I will.

 

[wingriderz]

Thanks for all the advice keep um coming. This dod has chased a grade school kid in past . The kid jumped in the inside of our fence toget away from him. I took the child home and called animal control. Its well doc on this dog.

 

[Ziggy2525]

Similar to mentioned above, if the neighbors won't do anything about it, I'd take the following path ...

Step 1 - Dog treats to get the dog used to you (not out of your hand - toss it).
Step 2 - Pepper/Bear spray.
Step 3 - Defend yourself.

Depending on the dog, you may need to go right to step 2 or step 3. Unfortunately, the dog problem is actually an owner problem.

 

[Mule Packer]

What do you do put a round off in ground to scare off dog or do you drop dog? My thing is what is cop gonna say either way?

From reading your previous posts about your neighbors and their dogs, I certainly wouldn't shoot the dog. Why? Simple. You'll just be escalating the problem and if your neighbors are as whack-o as you say they are, they will probably retaliate in ways you would not appreciate.

What would the police say? After already receiving several of your calls previously about your interactions with your neighbors, they'll probably say, "It's that crazy Wingriderz again complaining about the neighbor's dog. Tell him we'll look into it. Hang up and let's go grab lunch."

Scorpion520AZ has probably suggested the best solution, in my opinion. Go buy a can of the heavy duty bear spray. Don't get the stuff that ladies carry on a key chain and keep in their purse. That'll just make 'em mad. You want the good stuff where one spray will cure the dog from coming at you once and for all. It costs about forty bucks for a good-sized can. When the dog starts coming at you, give it a big dose square in the face. Trust me. Next time it sees you, it'll probably give out a frantic yelp and run the other way. I've seen it happen.

 

[RGVshooter]

This issue could happen around us. My point is what would you do ? Here goes . You live rural area. Your property is on fenced chain link. You have had neighbors pit bull type dogs loose that have chased folks in past.Fridays are trash days so you have to take cans to front road. Roads aren't paved. Let's say you have major health issues and on massive blood thinners also a dog bite could be very bad news . Ok your taking trash out your gate. The bad dog comes running down your fence line. Growling showing teeth. You say stay or stop loud voice . Dog keeps coming. What do you do put a round off in ground to scare off dog or do you drop dog? My thing is what is cop gonna say either way?

Check your local laws first. In Texas according to texas health and safety code 822.05 a owner of a dog that makes a unprovoked attack/injures a person that is not on their property can be charged with criminal negligence and is upgraded to 3rd degree felony is the person suffers serious bodily harm.

In Texas it is defensible to prosecution if you feel that you're about to be attacked or if the attack is occuring.
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In your situation (and also with me) I would suggest carrying a small $10-$15 canister of pepper spray. You know, the little ones that go around your keychain or stick in your pocket. I had to mace a few feral dogs here in Texas that got too close for comfort while out on the hiking trail and it works wonderfully.

But when it comes to possibly losing blood, life, limb... choot 'em.
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Something to consider; When i see videos like this, This is what I'm going to show the judge if I end up getting charged. I don't want to end up in the hospital or having my family notified because I'm in ICU because I was more afraid of being charged then protecting myself against a pack of attacking dogs.

wfaa.com | Woman mauled by pack of pit bulls in South Dallas remains hospitalized

 

[rvn6768]

If you are on blood thinners your are risking serious injury,possible death with a dog bite. shoot the dog and don't take the risk of being bitten.

 

[wingriderz]

If you are on blood thinners your are risking serious injury,possible death with a dog bite. shoot the dog and don't take the risk of being bitten.

Thats my biggest issue me being on blood thinners for life at a higher level due to a mechanical heart valve.Another is infection for me would be very bad too.

 

[wingriderz]

From reading your previous posts about your neighbors and their dogs, I certainly wouldn't shoot the dog. Why? Simple. You'll just be escalating the problem and if your neighbors are as whack-o as you say they are, they will probably retaliate in ways you would not appreciate.

What would the police say? After already receiving several of your calls previously about your interactions with your neighbors, they'll probably say, "It's that crazy Wingriderz again complaining about the neighbor's dog. Tell him we'll look into it. Hang up and let's go grab lunch."

Scorpion520AZ has probably suggested the best solution, in my opinion. Go buy a can of the heavy duty bear spray. Don't get the stuff that ladies carry on a key chain and keep in their purse. You want the good stuff where one spray will cure the dog from coming at you once and for all. It costs about forty bucks for a good-sized can. When the dog starts coming at you, give it a big dose square in the face. Trust me. Next time it sees you, it'll probably give out a frantic yelp and run the other way. I've seen it happen.

Packer gave me an lol today lol. We are on a roll no real issuses with neighbor's in a long while. They got evicted and removed the real bad ones

 

[misswired]

Talk to the school bus driver. She has dispatched three pit bulls on our loop. They weren't mean dogs either, just bad at chasing school buses.