Earliest Stainless Steel S&W Revolvers

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Quote from Gunz50, posted elsewhere:
“[Consumers] were only looking to get the few stainless guns that were already in short supply and [ ] that were being sold at full MSRP and above[. S]stainless steel revolvers were the hottest new thing back then, in the 70's you needed to be on a wait list at your local ffl to get one of any cal. and barrel length,I know because I was on several wait lists for a long time.”

AMEN, BROTHER!

In the early 1970s, when the California Highway Patrol first authorized the carry by its officers of 6” S&W stainless steel .38/.357 revolvers, no such revolvers were commercially produced by S&W. So, I managed to locate, and purchase at a very substantial premium above the MSRP, one of the very first Model 66 Stainless Combat Magnum revolvers available in the entire SF Bay Area. I then had my favorite pistolsmith at the time replace the factory 4” barrel with a 6” heavy stainless steel barrel of PPC configuration, just like the blued steel S&W Model 15 PPC gun I used in competition. From my PPC competition experience, I already knew that my Hoyt break-front duty holster could easily close completely around a heavy PPC barrel, with absolutely no impairment of its lightning quick draw. So, I started carrying that modified Model 66 on patrol duty.

During my first Squad Inspection with that revolver, the Officers of the San Jose Squad all stood in line at attention, with their blued steel revolvers held smartly in front of them at 45 degrees, cylinders open and ready for inspection. When he got to me and my shiny stainless steel heavy barreled Model 66, the Inspector abruptly stopped, turned, and glared at my Captain, who then sheepishly explained, “We checked; it’s authorized.” So, it seems like I was probably the very first CHP Officer to carry an authorized stainless steel revolver as a duty weapon.

That PPC barreled Model 66 looked a lot like this Model 686 I put together last year:

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Except that the 66 had the regular S&W walnut target grips.

Unfortunately, that Model 66 died splendidly in the line of duty, destroyed while testing a late lot of Super Vel .357 ammo in a Ransom Rest at the CHP Academy Range the very next year. That over-achieving ammo had split the forcing cone along the bottom, clear to the shoulder, launching the corresponding threaded left side of the frame off into space, and thereby releasing the barrel to fall to the concrete where it rang like a bell. The story of that revolver’s replacement is particularly entertaining, but too long for here.
 
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Smith & Wesson shipped the world's first regular production stainless steel Model 60 revolvers on October 5, 1965. One went to Smith & Wesson Treasurer Frank Symonds, three went to Olympic Wholesale Company in Los Angeles, and five went to S&W's Southern representative Patterson & Hanson, Largo, Florida.
 
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Smith & Wesson shipped the world's first stainless steel Model 60 revolvers on October 5, 1965. One went to Smith & Wesson Treasurer Frank Symonds, three went to Olympic Wholesale Company in Los Angeles, and five went to S&W's Southern representative Patterson & Hanson, Largo, Florida.
After the Model 60, what was the next stainless steel model produced by S&W for general distribution?
 
The first S&W revolvers made of stainless steel were a batch of twenty completed in 1960 to test the concept of a revolver made of stainless steel. These revolvers are stamped MOD-15 in the yoke cut and have a 4-screw frame. Of the twenty completed, six were shipped. S&W President, Carl Hellstrom, received serial number K397821 in April 1960; S&W President James Oberg received K397823 in June 1974; H. H. Harris in Chicago, IL received K397825 in September 1963; K397826 and K397828 went to Jesse Harpe in Tampa, FL; K397827 was given to S&W President Bill Gunn on May 20, 1965, and he presented it to Fred Cannon, Police Commissioner of St. Lucia in the Carribean.

Bill
 
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In 1969=71. I worked at Bells Gus and Sport Shop, Franklin Park, Il. As an employee, I was able to purchase a Model 60 (R18571), and enjoyed owning and using that revolver for many years. I gifted it to a close friend in 1997, Kind of wish I still had it today.
 
K397827 was given to S&W President Bill Gunn on May 20, 1965, and he presented it to Fred Cannon,
Gunn and Cannon, eh? Guess you can't make this stuff up! :rolleyes:
Had an early 60, I'd have to check the date in my records. Swapped it on an early 640, the +P+ stamped one, which eventually came back to me. Found a minty 60-1 at a show some years ago, and scooped it up. It really is a breakthrough gun.
Moon
 
After the Model 60, what was the next stainless steel model produced by S&W for general distribution?
60 1965
63 1977
64 1970
65 1974
66 1971
67 1972
68 1976

When I was a cop the stainless steel revolvers were said to lack the quality of their blue brothers. The internals in stainless could not hold a trigger job like a blue model. When the L frame came out in 1981 the stainless steel revolvers were perfected.
 
Like halfmoonclip above I had a model 60 which was my first off duty gun. Traded it for a 640 when they came out. A couple years later traded the 640 (stupid) for an early 642. A couple of years ago read about frame cracking here on the Forum. Sure enough….it was cracked. Back to S&W. Recieved a 442 in its place. A couple months ago, scored a 60-7 for a most excellent price. So back to where I started, but I still have the 442.
 

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My oldest is a model 60 no dash 2" box papers tools unfired coated in factory grease. Not sure how old it is serial number is R268977.
 
Quote from Gunz50, posted elsewhere:
“[Consumers] were only looking to get the few stainless guns that were already in short supply and [ ] that were being sold at full MSRP and above[. S]stainless steel revolvers were the hottest new thing back then, in the 70's you needed to be on a wait list at your local ffl to get one of any cal. and barrel length,I know because I was on several wait lists for a long time.”

AMEN, BROTHER!

In the early 1970s, when the California Highway Patrol first authorized the carry by its officers of 6” S&W stainless steel .38/.357 revolvers, no such revolvers were commercially produced by S&W. So, I managed to locate, and purchase at a very substantial premium above the MSRP, one of the very first Model 66 Stainless Combat Magnum revolvers available in the entire SF Bay Area. I then had my favorite pistolsmith at the time replace the factory 4” barrel with a 6” heavy stainless steel barrel of PPC configuration, just like the blued steel S&W Model 15 PPC gun I used in competition. From my PPC competition experience, I already knew that my Hoyt break-front duty holster could easily close completely around a heavy PPC barrel, with absolutely no impairment of its lightning quick draw. So, I started carrying that modified Model 66 on patrol duty.

During my first Squad Inspection with that revolver, the Officers of the San Jose Squad all stood in line at attention, with their blued steel revolvers held smartly in front of them at 45 degrees, cylinders open and ready for inspection. When he got to me and my shiny stainless steel heavy barreled Model 66, the Inspector abruptly stopped, turned, and glared at my Captain, who then sheepishly explained, “We checked; it’s authorized.” So, it seems like I was probably the very first CHP Officer to carry an authorized stainless steel revolver as a duty weapon.

That PPC barreled Model 66 looked a lot like this Model 686 I put together last year:

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Except that the 66 had the regular S&W walnut target grips.

Unfortunately, that Model 66 died splendidly in the line of duty, destroyed while testing a late lot of Super Vel .357 ammo in a Ransom Rest at the CHP Academy Range the very next year. That over-achieving ammo had split the forcing cone along the bottom, clear to the shoulder, launching the corresponding threaded left side of the frame off into space, and thereby releasing the barrel to fall to the concrete where it rang like a bell. The story of that revolver’s replacement is particularly entertaining, but too long for here.
There’s always that one, and you were him! Were you a motor officer or car? I can’t imagine a 6” barrel would play nice in a car but I’d be happy to know. Speaking of the CHP, what were the general feelings about the TV production down in LA from the perspective of a Bay Area patrolman?
 
While I don't not know if the Model 64 or Model 66 was introduced first or if they shipped at the same time IIRC the earliest Model 66's had high K9xx,xxx serials, this leads me to believe those early ones were likely produced in late 1969 which would make sense if they began shipping in early 1970.
 
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In 1970/1971 I was an LEO in Nevada and a brother was a deputy on a California sheriff Dept. His agency bought the deputies new model 66 in 4”, but had some problems with them, resulting in getting a new issue of the same model a few years later.

As Sgt Rock noted above the early model 66 were all stainless, but had a problem with hammer push-off and also with the bright silver stainless front & rear sights. The sights were changed to blued ones and the trigger/hammer were changed from stainless to Carbon steel hard chromed. Troops were thereafter quite satisfied with them.
 
The initial run of model 60's had SS internals which resulted in gauling.
They changed to the case colored ones briefly then to the flash chromed style prior to the introduction of the model 64 and 66 in 1970.
No standard production SS K frames had stainless internals they were introduced with flash chromed hammer and trigger.
 
There is a Notable Thread about one of the six known stainless steel Model 15s.
It is in the Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 forum under Combat Masterpiece. Title is Model 15 Stainless. Very interesting read.
 
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The first S&W revolvers made of stainless steel were a batch of twenty completed in 1960 to test the concept of a revolver made of stainless steel.

Bill
Howdy, Bill,

Thank you very much for sharing this nugget. I'd not heard the story before so I changed my post about the Model 60 to include the terminology regular production.
 
In the St Louis area, 66's were still hard to get as late as 1975 and 1976. My dad was a cop and worked part-time at a gunshop. He had a hook at the local LE equipment supply and was able to score 66's, making him a hero. So, yes, they were introduced many years prior, but not seen often in the wild...at least not in the midwest.
 
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