Early K-38 Masterpieces with the Large Ejector Rod Knob (LERK)

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SEE POST NO. 12 BELOW, POSTED 5 AUG 2013, FOR UPDATED INFORMATION.

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When S&W introduced the postwar K-22 Masterpiece in early 1947 (two specimens are known to have been delivered in late 1946, but for all practical purposes commercial distribution began in 1947), supplies of wartime parts remained available for use. Among them were several thousand large-knob ejector rods. Many were used on the early postwar M&P revolvers that carried S-prefix serial numbers, and some were used on the earliest K-22 Masterpieces. More than 5000 and fewer than 6000 K-prefix revolvers were produced with large ejector rod knobs and notched barrels to accommodate their larger diameters. These have been referred to by some collectors as LERK Masterpieces to distinguish them from the later postwar K-target revolvers that had knobless ejector rods with knurled ends.

The highest known serial number on a LERK Masterpiece is K5680; that gun is a K-22. Not all guns numbered lower than that are LERK guns, though an overwhelming majority of them are. A few lower-numbered K-22s in the K5xxx range are known to have knobless ejector rods (K5154 and K5678, for example), and we may conclude that the serial-number boundary between these varieties is fuzzy.

Though most LERK Masterpieces are K-22s, not all are. A K-38 with the serial number K1661 is known, and I think it is almost certain to have been a large-knob gun. According to Roy Jinks in History of Smith & Wesson, K1661 was delivered in June, 1947; the recipient is not identified. I suspect that this gun was a salesman's sample, and a few other such samples may have been produced at the same time. [See Addendum at bottom of post.]

After K1661, the next known serial numbers of K-38 Masterpieces fall in the K45xx to K48xx range. The lowest observed number is K4562, though a K4549 is said to be referenced in records. K4564 and K4593 have also been reported. The highest known serial number on a gun in this range is K4820. Another early K-38 in this range (K4647, recently reported on this forum by member and distinguished collector bmg60) is extremely interesting in that it has a knobless ejector rod. It is thus the lowest-numbered Masterpiece of any caliber known to have a knobless rod.

I recently had the good fortune to acquire this LERK K-38, K4709. My thanks again to Scotter260 for the deal that brought this gun to my collection.

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The gun has been a shooter, not a safe queen. I put its condition at about 90%, with muzzle and high edge wear, a turn ring, blue loss on the bottom of the trigger guard and some scuffing in the cylinder lock pockets. Bore and chambers are fine and shiny. There is no push-off. There is a bit of endshake in the cylinder, and perhaps slightly more rotational play than one sees in the better looking guns of the early postwar era, but movement is within tolerances. The stocks that came to me on the gun were from much later (numbered over 200000). I had the stocks seen in the photos in the woodpile. They are at least closer to the proper age (11464) though they still do not fit the gun particularly well.

This gun shipped in February 1948, which makes it one of the earliest K-38s to have been commercially distributed. The only other LERK K-38s I know about are ones that have been reported over the years in this forum: K4562, K4564, K4593 and K4820 -- along with the one I report here, a total of five. By May of 1948, other K-38s were being shipped with serial numbers between K22700 and K23700. Not one of these guns is known to have shipped with a large knob. But like their few LERK precursors, they are all narrow-rib guns and have a single line address. A single K-38 in the K25xxx range is probably also a single line gun, but the next known K-38 (serial number in the K35000s) may be a four-liner; a handful of K-38s in the K39000s are almost certainly four-line guns. [EDITED APRIL 2014 TO ADD: Based on discussion in posts below, we now know that K4562 and K4820 are not LERK specimens; they have the single-diameter ejector rods.]

What do the serial number ranges tell us? If we set aside the suspected salesman's sample(s) and emphasize the power of round numbers, it appears we might have a block of K-38 Masterpieces numbered from about K4501 to K4825 or K4850. That is a first production run of about 325 or 350 revolvers. There are no known K-22s with serial numbers in this range, and other than the suspected salesman's sample no known K-38s with K plus four-digit serial numbers outside of this range. We know one gun with a knobless ejector rod from this range (K4647 mentioned above), but the other known K-38s with K plus four-digit serial numbers are LERK specimens. It is probably safe to predict that no more than 350 LERK K-38s were ever produced, and perhaps no more than 300, depending on where the true beginning and end of the serial number range actually lie. If that is true, and if only 5500-5600 or so LERK Masterpieces were produced, around 93 to 95 percent of them would be K-22s and about five to seven percent K-38s.

It is possible that another 1000-1500 K-38s were produced in early 1948 at a time when frames still received only the single-line address markings. But the serial numbers are a little more scattered, and single-line K-22s are known with serial numbers in the K25000-K30000 range (though none are known in the K22701-K23700 range that may consist entirely of K-38s). By the time the K-32 Masterpiece came into earliest commercial production with serial numbers in the K56xxx range, large knob ejector rods had long since ceased to be used in Masterpiece production. One should not expect to see a LERK K-32 unless it is an early salesman's sample from sometime in 1947. The histories refer to a single salesman's sample, but there may have been a few. It strikes me as inconceivable that more than a dozen LERK K-32s might ever have been produced, and perhaps far fewer than that. Those would be among the rarest Masterpieces. [ADDENDUM ON THIS POINT: I had forgotten about K66035, which is a LERK K-32, though questions have been raised about its configuration. See this thread: http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-hand-ejectors-1896-1961/294235-need-info-1948-k-32-added-pics.html ]

If anyone else has a LERK K-38 not reported here, I would appreciate learning its serial number. A PM is fine if you would prefer not to post to the forum, though I encourage all with such guns to announce them and post photos of them in this thread.

ADDENDUM: I had forgotten that there is some uncertainty over the identification of K1661 as the first K-38 Masterpieces. The correct number may be K2137. That number itself is a little confusing because it is in some places identified as a K-32. Actually, the first K-32 is probably K2143. Mike Priwer has pointed this out in other forum posts, and I simply didn't recall his observations when I first composed this message.
 
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Thanks David, very well reported.

Are other frames sizes referred to as LERKS as well? If so the only LERKS I own are transitional I frames as you may guess. And as I've observed most N transitionals or goodly % seem to be LERKs as well.
 
I appropriated the term LERK from earlier posts on this forum. I think RKMesa was the original user of the term, but I could be wrong. My recollection is that it has been used only to separate the earliest postwar Masterpiece models from the later ones. There is no reason why it couldn't be used to help distinguish varieties within other postwar or transitional revolvers.

Maybe we should create another term RLERK (Really Large...) for the mushroom-shaped knobs that were phased out about 1928. :D
 
Excellent writeup David (and pics). The LERK's sure are an interesting and rarely seen occurance. I was really glad that one went to you. It seems like a real nice specimen too!.

Roger
 
Early Post War K38

Thanks much for the very informative post. I have a K22 example, (K4881) and have been looking (without success) for a K38. I have owned (and just bought another) narrow rib examples with the 3 line address. After reading your thread, it appears that might be as close as I'll get to finding a match, although one sold on GB recently. The gun pictured may not be a safe queen, but I'd be very happy to find a similar example in any condition. I'll keep looking. Jim
 
Roger, I know you were interested in this one, and it was just the luck of the draw that I had in my safe the gun the previous owner was interested in trading for.

Take heart. If I'm right in my summary of the numbers, there should be another 300 of these out there for collectors who don't have one yet.
 
Wow, that was a very enjoyable read.

I enjoy these very topic-specific threads especially when it's authored by one who's so interested and knowledgeable on the topic.

Good stuff sir, thank you.
 
Updates on info in this thread

The letter for K4709 (the gun in the top post) reports that it shipped to Kennedy Brothers Inc. of St. Paul, MN on February 10, 1948. The only other precisely dated LERK K-38 is K4593, which shipped to Belknap Hardware in Louisville, KY a week later on February 17, 1948. Three other guns known to have shipped in February 1948 have not yet had specific shipment dates and destinations established.

The question of early K-38s without knobs on the ejector rod just got more interesting. I had believed that only K4647 among the earliest K-plus-four-digit serial numbers had a knobless ejector rod, but yesterday I stumbled across evidence that K4562 is also a knobless gun. Check post no. 17 in this thread:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-ha...ransitional-model-k-22-dedication-thread.html

Of five early K-38s shipped in February 1948, three are LERK guns and two have knobless ejector rods. Hard to do much with statistics like that. If only a dozen more K-38s with serial numbers under K5000 would turn up, we might have a sample big enough to allow generalizations.

As I write, there are only four LERK K-38s known to me: K4564, K4593, K4709 and K4820. The knobless guns from the vicinity of these serial numbers are K4562 and K4647. A seventh gun, K4549, has not been observed but is known from records to be a K-38. We don't know if it has a knobbed or knobless ejector rod. [EDITED APRIL 2014 TO ADD: K4820 in fact has a knobless ejector rod; see posts below.]

If anyone has serial numbers and knob reports for other K-38s numbered in the K45xx to K5000 range, please report them here or send me a PM with the relevant information. I guarantee confidentiality for you, but would obviously want to use the information about specific revolvers to paint a fuller picture of these earliest K-38s. (Some guns in the K45xx to K5000 range will be K-22s -- mostly at the high end, I would imagine -- but I am tracking only the K-38s for this study.)
 
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It has been a year since this thread started, and I was wondering if anyone has had the good fortune to acquire a LERK K-38 Masterpiece in the intervening months. Or maybe even realize that the old K-38 in the back corner of the safe is more interesting than it seemed. :D

Don't be shy! There must be more than just four known K-38 Masterpieces with this specific configuration. I'm hoping to expand the data base entries for this uncommon variety.
 
A nice post to be sure, thanks for sharing that one! About three years ago I acquired a nice early 1948 (I think) K-22 one liner without the "LERK" dang it. Oh well, it gives me yet another one to keep an eye out for.
 
Im still looking for my first one. Its nice to know they exist (thx david for making this thread about them) because nearly everyone who posts a transitional masterpiece posts a K22. Apparently these PWT k38s are much more scarce than PWT K22s. I hope to find one some day...
 
Im still looking for my first one. Its nice to know they exist (thx david for making this thread about them) because nearly everyone who posts a transitional masterpiece posts a K22. Apparently these PWT k38s are much more scarce than PWT K22s. I hope to find one some day...

I'm in the same boat, I'm looking for one :)
 
. . . If anyone has serial numbers and knob reports for other K-38s numbered in the K45xx to K5000 range, please report them here or send me a PM with the relevant information. . . (Some guns in the K45xx to K5000 range will be K-22s -- mostly at the high end, I would imagine -- but I am tracking only the K-38s for this study.)

Unfortunately I don't have a K-38 to report in the s/n range of interest . . . and I understand you're not tracking K-22s . . . but it might be helpful to know that K4760 is a K-22 w/LERK.

So now the maximum possible number of K-38 LERKs in the study range is down from 500 to 499 :)

Russ
 
David:

I think that you know of all the ones that I know of (I think 5 or 6 in total)... I've kept my eyes open for any other ones. Unfortunately, no success in locating any more.
 
Actually held one in my hand for sale at the Orlando SWCA meeting a couple of years back but didnt have enough cash to buy it and a K22 LERK for sale next to it on the table ...

Ended up choosing the K22 LERK but suspect that same K38 LERK is perhaps pictured above ?
 
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