EDC comfort is often overlooked, made fun of and poo - poo'd. Sometimes people try in intimidate EDC-er's.

For years I carried a 4" Redhawk with 255 gr. bullets. After that for even more years I carried my match gun which was a 4" 625 with full lug barrel. When I stopped shooting matches with the revolver I had a 2" barrel installed on the 625 and I felt that was the ideal large caliber revolver setup for concealed carry. Size and weight never bothered me. The 340PD is reserved for those relatively few instances where I simply can't conceal a full size handgun of any type.
 
For years I carried a 4" Redhawk with 255 gr. bullets. After that for even more years I carried my match gun which was a 4" 625 with full lug barrel. When I stopped shooting matches with the revolver I had a 2" barrel installed on the 625 and I felt that was the ideal large caliber revolver setup for concealed carry. Size and weight never bothered me. The 340PD is reserved for those relatively few instances where I simply can't conceal a full size handgun of any type.
WOW! Carrying a 3 pound, large frame Ruger Redhawk plus the weight of the ammo - I don't know how you did that as a long term and steady basis. Even the S&W M25 N Frame is no light weight at 38+ ounces. As long as you are good with it (and it seems you are), more power to you! The only thing I don't get is why - but you need not explain - that is just your own personal thing. That's what makes horse races!
 
At the time I was doing a lot of shooting with the large frame revolvers. I shot the 4" 625 much better than any other handgun I owned so it was a natural for me. I have had a lifelong scoliosis that causes me to lean toward the right even before I was old enough to carry heavy revolvers. I still carry all my large handguns on my right hip and any back pain I've had can be attributed to overdoing certain cardio workouts at the gym. I still prefer leather outside the waistband holsters. I have a new duty gun with optic that weighs more than the old one and we now have huge radios that weigh a lot more than the old ones. I don't know how much longer I can keep doing this but for now I can deal with it.
 
Of course your method for carrying your weapon should have some degree of comfort. That is not my primary criteria. Every endeavor in life is a trade off between risk and benefit. Cost and value. I want to first insure that I can rapidly deploy my weapon if needed. Most of the time, in that gravest of extremes, quickness to respond is all you have. Comfort will always be second place. Otherwise, we are just playing at CCW.
 
IMO, this is one of the advantages of states that allow open carry. I've probably actually open carried around 10 times since Oklahoma made it legal… but in practical terms it took the pressure off concealed carry. If my gun accidentally gets exposed or the outline is too obvious, no LEO is going to care. If Karen calls the police to report a man with a gun, they will ask, "What is he doing?" Karen says, "He's looking at fruit in the produce section." The police laugh and tell her to have a nice day.
 
To me, open carry is right out. Not only does it say "shoot me first" it does not help our cause to scare little old ladies in the grocery store. We need to be ambassadors for our sport...perfect gentlemen at all times. Nothing wrong with being a Gentleman Warrior. For decades my carry gun was a full size 1911, carried inside the waistband in a Milt Sparks holster. Started with a Colt Gold Cup, because it was factory throated to feed semi wadcutter bullets for target use so it would feed the hollow points of the 80's. I read about Swenson and Chow and other gunsmiths making the Colt feed everything, but here in Missouri nobody I knew had a custom gun. Anyway, dressing around the gun has never been a problem for me. Now past 60, I pride myself in my low risk lifestyle. I am confident I will never need to draw my sidearm. But I have to carry it for ballast. If I don't have a 1911 on me, I tend to walk in circles I am so off balance.
 
OP, you make some great points in your post. I am in complete agreement. I love my EDC, a S&W 360PD that weighs 11.7 oz loaded and carried in my Mika's pocket holster all day long. (But, I love it less so at the range. Ouch! :eek:)
 
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I have been carrying for 50 years now and have learned a few things about every day carry and concealing a firearm and ammunition. I have never been in law enforcement so the art of concealment is even more important! In my old State, if you get reported for a gun "peeking out" even for second, you lost your permit! One of the most important points in carrying concealed is that what ever gun, caliber, and rig you are using is comfortable enough for ALL day carry. Simply stated, if your rig is annoying, uncomfortable, tight, too lose, etc. to the point where it's annoying, too heavy or bulky you will tend to not have it on your person all the time, in a desk drawer, in a glove compartment, etc. which IMHO is not where it belongs. To me, a concealed weapon belongs on your person all the time when out of the house. If only carried on your person 95% of the time - well you know Murphy's Law..... The one time you need it, it might not be readily accessible.

I have read many articles, have personally heard from different people that they would only carry a gun chambered in a caliber starting with a 4. That would mean .41 mag, 44 spl, Mag, 45 Colt or acp. In semi auto's we are referring to 40 S&W and I'll include 10mm which is basically a .40 caliber Mag. Those guns are large, heavy and bulky and downright uncomfortable for many to EDC all day long, IMHO. Maybe for an hour or two but if one is a working man, businessman, professional or executive in a public environment, I don't really understand how one could wear a gun that weighs that much and is that big in comfort all day long while still being properly concealed. If the gun is uncomfortable it will eventually be taken off and left somewhere. I believe that comfort is often over looked as being very important!

I have also heard the phrase, "dress around the gun". I am not in agreement with that. I believe a gun to be carried should fit in with normal dress code for the environment, venue, temperature and climate. I do not think one should be wearing clothing that is out of place for the situation or climate and therefore look out of place or abnormal. The trick is to pick a gun and rig that can fit in with your daily routine. If you live in a hot, humid climate, carry a gun that will work in cargo shorts and a Tee shirt if that is your daily attire. Wearing clothing for the sole purpose of concealment is going to make you sweat, restrict movement and be miserable when doing a task that is a little out of your ordinary daily routine. We must be prepared for those times and still be able to conceal our firearms.

Bigger is not always better! A firearm that is comfortable and concealable will always be on your person and is always better than the .44 magnum N frame you left somewhere because you had to remove your jacket or cover. The rig you use is also very important. While some favor shoulder holsters, they all require a garment of some type to conceal them - not a great way to roll in the Summer's heat!

The reason I am bringing attention to this is that some try and intimidate others into carrying a gun that is sometimes just too large, heavy and bulky for them and they wind up either in discomfort or not having their gun on them if and when needed. Once again, better to have a .380 or 9mm on your person all the time than a .45 Gov't model in the desk drawer. I know when I first started out, some people told me I "needed" to carry a "man's gun" starting off in a caliber with a .4 but after trying to carry a .45acp Gov't model IWB and concealed, I gave that up after 2 weeks! Couldn't take more than 10 steps before having to hike up my pants - lol. Had a constant red spot on my side from the gun rubbing on me.

Be your own person. Think about what you can and are willing to wear all day long - including a reload. Do not be intimidated by "keyboard commando's" who don't follow their own rules. Try different guns and rigs and determine what is practical, comfortable and right for your situation. Practice with what you carry and stick with it instead of constantly rotating guns. You never want to have to think about what gun you have with you, if and when you need it. Consistency might be boring, but it is reliable and predictable.

NOTE: My so-called "credentials" come from carrying concealed for 50 years as a legally armed citizen in multiple States with completely different laws & regulations, in every type of situation one could encounter, trying what so called "experts" have initially written and said, extrapolating that information and then (most importantly) finding what worked for me. Trial & error and being honest with myself as to what I was willing & able to carry comfortably. I was a businessman in the NE and wore all kinds of clothing from suits to jeans and button down shirts with dress pants. My daily dress for the last 4 years now has been a pair of cargo shorts and a Tee shirt. I now rarely get dress up and almost never wear long pants. My equipment works absolutely perfectly with any clothing I wear and any where I go. I know what works for me - find what works for you, but be realistic and honest with yourself. Hope some here take away at least a little. I like to share from what I have learned the hard way, for others to benefit from - especially new EDC-er's.
I have carried off & on for years. The off & on part was due to trying to carry a big heavy gun which ended up in the night stand or glove box. Then tried micro pistols and wasn't impressed with performance.
All that changed when I bought an Sig P365 & a good holster. Now I carry all day, everyday, no matter the clothing or season. Changed the grip module to a Wilson Combat one as it just fits my hand better. I have 4 holsters, but one gets 90% on the action.
Have a great day!
 
Of course your method for carrying your weapon should have some degree of comfort. That is not my primary criteria. Every endeavor in life is a trade off between risk and benefit. Cost and value. I want to first insure that I can rapidly deploy my weapon if needed. Most of the time, in that gravest of extremes, quickness to respond is all you have. Comfort will always be second place. Otherwise, we are just playing at CCW.
While I won't "grade" comfort with a number, it has to be one of the most pertinent qualities of EDC or people will find excuses not to carry on their person in all types of weather, climate and dress. I am certainly not advocating carrying a useless, tiny, small caliber gun and not saying a carry gun need be a particularly expensive or inexpensive gun - just one that is reliable, effective, accurate and fit ones needs during their daily routines - and some times abnormal daily activities. Even before I could afford expensive toys, I never put a "price limit" on a good quality, reliable and meaningful hand gun, tools, pair of boots, etc. I'd much rather have one item that I could rely on instead of 10 for "quantities sake". Also not saying a gun should just fade away like you did not have it on you - just saying it must be "comfortable enough" to carry for 8-10+ hours at a time and not constantly be annoying or be the main focus of how you move and do normal things over your day. Like I said, when I first started out 50 years ago, I fell victim to the "carry a man's gun or nothing at all". I found out the truth (at least for me) a mere 2 weeks later - lol.

I know there are exceptions to every main stream concept. Everyone has to be confident, comfortable and good with their decisions no matter what it is. I have personally seen many start leaving their guns at home simply because they were not comfortable carrying what they were try to. In the case of some of them, after I have suggested a better carry gun (for them) they changed their tune 180º. (y)
 
S&W has made it so you can have your cake and eat it too! I just got a Shield in 40 (converted it to 357), it's a "40" that's a single stack. I haven't always thought this way, but I'd rather 7, 357SIGs than 12 9mm. Though I do love my CSX.

Aside from that, carry at home. I live in a good neighborhood in Kansas, and yet in the last 20 years I've had 2 situations where I've had unwelcome strangers at the house.
 
I've been carrying full size over 25 years. Comfort has been more of a priority after my second back surgery and more so after the 3rd.
I have bilateral neuropathy in both legs so I had to find a alternative to my thick, stiff gun belts. The army had it right all along (at least for me) with the multi layer belt system and I'm still able to owb carry full size with 2 extra mags with minimal issues.
I'm in a open carry state, I usually carry open at home on the farm. When I'm out it's always covered minimal printing. Always a 1911,2011 of some type. When home, the revolvers come out to play in case a varmit comes around, today the 460 getting some sun time.
If things get uncomfortable, I still have a couple micros like the s&w csx or Kimber cds9, or ppk.
 
I have been carrying for 50 years now and have learned a few things about every day carry and concealing a firearm and ammunition. I have never been in law enforcement so the art of concealment is even more important! In my old State, if you get reported for a gun "peeking out" even for second, you lost your permit! One of the most important points in carrying concealed is that what ever gun, caliber, and rig you are using is comfortable enough for ALL day carry. Simply stated, if your rig is annoying, uncomfortable, tight, too lose, etc. to the point where it's annoying, too heavy or bulky you will tend to not have it on your person all the time, in a desk drawer, in a glove compartment, etc. which IMHO is not where it belongs. To me, a concealed weapon belongs on your person all the time when out of the house. If only carried on your person 95% of the time - well you know Murphy's Law..... The one time you need it, it might not be readily accessible.

I have read many articles, have personally heard from different people that they would only carry a gun chambered in a caliber starting with a 4. That would mean .41 mag, 44 spl, Mag, 45 Colt or acp. In semi auto's we are referring to 40 S&W and I'll include 10mm which is basically a .40 caliber Mag. Those guns are large, heavy and bulky and downright uncomfortable for many to EDC all day long, IMHO. Maybe for an hour or two but if one is a working man, businessman, professional or executive in a public environment, I don't really understand how one could wear a gun that weighs that much and is that big in comfort all day long while still being properly concealed. If the gun is uncomfortable it will eventually be taken off and left somewhere. I believe that comfort is often over looked as being very important!

I have also heard the phrase, "dress around the gun". I am not in agreement with that. I believe a gun to be carried should fit in with normal dress code for the environment, venue, temperature and climate. I do not think one should be wearing clothing that is out of place for the situation or climate and therefore look out of place or abnormal. The trick is to pick a gun and rig that can fit in with your daily routine. If you live in a hot, humid climate, carry a gun that will work in cargo shorts and a Tee shirt if that is your daily attire. Wearing clothing for the sole purpose of concealment is going to make you sweat, restrict movement and be miserable when doing a task that is a little out of your ordinary daily routine. We must be prepared for those times and still be able to conceal our firearms.

Bigger is not always better! A firearm that is comfortable and concealable will always be on your person and is always better than the .44 magnum N frame you left somewhere because you had to remove your jacket or cover. The rig you use is also very important. While some favor shoulder holsters, they all require a garment of some type to conceal them - not a great way to roll in the Summer's heat!

The reason I am bringing attention to this is that some try and intimidate others into carrying a gun that is sometimes just too large, heavy and bulky for them and they wind up either in discomfort or not having their gun on them if and when needed. Once again, better to have a .380 or 9mm on your person all the time than a .45 Gov't model in the desk drawer. I know when I first started out, some people told me I "needed" to carry a "man's gun" starting off in a caliber with a .4 but after trying to carry a .45acp Gov't model IWB and concealed, I gave that up after 2 weeks! Couldn't take more than 10 steps before having to hike up my pants - lol. Had a constant red spot on my side from the gun rubbing on me.

Be your own person. Think about what you can and are willing to wear all day long - including a reload. Do not be intimidated by "keyboard commando's" who don't follow their own rules. Try different guns and rigs and determine what is practical, comfortable and right for your situation. Practice with what you carry and stick with it instead of constantly rotating guns. You never want to have to think about what gun you have with you, if and when you need it. Consistency might be boring, but it is reliable and predictable.

NOTE: My so-called "credentials" come from carrying concealed for 50 years as a legally armed citizen in multiple States with completely different laws & regulations, in every type of situation one could encounter, trying what so called "experts" have initially written and said, extrapolating that information and then (most importantly) finding what worked for me. Trial & error and being honest with myself as to what I was willing & able to carry comfortably. I was a businessman in the NE and wore all kinds of clothing from suits to jeans and button down shirts with dress pants. My daily dress for the last 4 years now has been a pair of cargo shorts and a Tee shirt. I now rarely get dress up and almost never wear long pants. My equipment works absolutely perfectly with any clothing I wear and any where I go. I know what works for me - find what works for you, but be realistic and honest with yourself. Hope some here take away at least a little. I like to share from what I have learned the hard way, for others to benefit from - especially new EDC-er's.

I am in complete agreement with you in regards to everything you said in your post.
What you are basically saying is use "critical thinking" and do not subscribe to the "herd mentality" or the "Macho Image". Many Internet people do not live in the "real world" I might add.

Of course there is one sad thing that was not discussed and that is the reality of Global Warming and how it affects the way in which we dress during the summer months.

There was a time not to long ago when I carried either a .45 acp or a 9x19 even in the summer but no more. Here in my State this summer was the hottest on record and many of our fellow club members could not even show up for the weekly matches because most of us are old and retired and the heat is just too much for us. I have taken to carrying a .25 acp in the hot summer months as its "the only" pistol I can carry comfortably and "fit in" with the crowd of everyday shoppers when out shopping and still not be sweating myself into passing out from the overwhelming heat.
 
I believe a gun to be carried should fit in with normal dress code for the environment, venue, temperature and climate. I do not think one should be wearing clothing that is out of place for the situation or climate and therefore look out of place or abnormal.
I don't disagree with this.

Now I'm going to say the same thing I say every time this topic comes up Wrangler cargo pants and a camp shirt everyday. No major changes in my wardrobe except for on special occasions where there's a family Barbecue I wear an Aloha and on those occasions it doesn't matter because everybody in my family knows I'm carrying a gun anyway.

Now I'm going to talk about the part where I walked around Costco one day while I was waiting for the rotisserie chickens to be done and I counted people that were dressed just like me and out of the whole store there were 14 of us.

And I'm going to close with again saying that a whole bunch of people in Colorado dress like they do all their shopping at REI or Cabela's or Big R.

Having said that I do agree with the OP. I don't think that my normal style of dressing would fit in in NYC.

I probably pull it off in Florida. I'd just have to switch the camp shirt for an Aloha or a Guayabara.
 
I'm frequently razzed about not carrying Enough Gun. I don't care - I'm NOT wealthy - can't think of any enemies - I don't argue or wisecrack, & I will walk away from trouble. I could always carry bigger - if I thought it necessary.
I don't even carry often, living in low crime area ( North Georgia Mountains )
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If it is too much of a hassle to throw it on for a quick trip out to the grocery store, it is the wrong gun. Unless you live in a war zone (or Oakland, CA), then you statistically don't need an RDS, weapon light, 140mm mag extension. You need a gun that will get you through an encounter with a mugger.

If you want all that crap when you live in relatively safe suburbia, and you'll never hesitate putting it on for quick trips out, then terrific. But if you do it so that you look super cool in your Internet videos and posts, then dog help you when the guy pulls a knife on your during your quick fill-up at the Gas 'n Sip after leaving your four pounds of war-rigged Staccato P at home because you don't publicly admit that it is a pretty effective boat anchor.
 
No Way I'd even GO THERE. Been Southern by-choice for about 50 years, & recommend it.
I do feel your pain though.
Well I was born into it. There's a plan in place to live somewhere else August 2027. Already own the property. Met with builder that we're going with Saturday. Can't wait
 
I have been carrying for 50 years now and have learned a few things about every day carry and concealing a firearm and ammunition. I have never been in law enforcement so the art of concealment is even more important! In my old State, if you get reported for a gun "peeking out" even for second, you lost your permit! One of the most important points in carrying concealed is that what ever gun, caliber, and rig you are using is comfortable enough for ALL day carry. Simply stated, if your rig is annoying, uncomfortable, tight, too lose, etc. to the point where it's annoying, too heavy or bulky you will tend to not have it on your person all the time, in a desk drawer, in a glove compartment, etc. which IMHO is not where it belongs. To me, a concealed weapon belongs on your person all the time when out of the house. If only carried on your person 95% of the time - well you know Murphy's Law..... The one time you need it, it might not be readily accessible.

I have read many articles, have personally heard from different people that they would only carry a gun chambered in a caliber starting with a 4. That would mean .41 mag, 44 spl, Mag, 45 Colt or acp. In semi auto's we are referring to 40 S&W and I'll include 10mm which is basically a .40 caliber Mag. Those guns are large, heavy and bulky and downright uncomfortable for many to EDC all day long, IMHO. Maybe for an hour or two but if one is a working man, businessman, professional or executive in a public environment, I don't really understand how one could wear a gun that weighs that much and is that big in comfort all day long while still being properly concealed. If the gun is uncomfortable it will eventually be taken off and left somewhere. I believe that comfort is often over looked as being very important!

I have also heard the phrase, "dress around the gun". I am not in agreement with that. I believe a gun to be carried should fit in with normal dress code for the environment, venue, temperature and climate. I do not think one should be wearing clothing that is out of place for the situation or climate and therefore look out of place or abnormal. The trick is to pick a gun and rig that can fit in with your daily routine. If you live in a hot, humid climate, carry a gun that will work in cargo shorts and a Tee shirt if that is your daily attire. Wearing clothing for the sole purpose of concealment is going to make you sweat, restrict movement and be miserable when doing a task that is a little out of your ordinary daily routine. We must be prepared for those times and still be able to conceal our firearms.

Bigger is not always better! A firearm that is comfortable and concealable will always be on your person and is always better than the .44 magnum N frame you left somewhere because you had to remove your jacket or cover. The rig you use is also very important. While some favor shoulder holsters, they all require a garment of some type to conceal them - not a great way to roll in the Summer's heat!

The reason I am bringing attention to this is that some try and intimidate others into carrying a gun that is sometimes just too large, heavy and bulky for them and they wind up either in discomfort or not having their gun on them if and when needed. Once again, better to have a .380 or 9mm on your person all the time than a .45 Gov't model in the desk drawer. I know when I first started out, some people told me I "needed" to carry a "man's gun" starting off in a caliber with a .4 but after trying to carry a .45acp Gov't model IWB and concealed, I gave that up after 2 weeks! Couldn't take more than 10 steps before having to hike up my pants - lol. Had a constant red spot on my side from the gun rubbing on me.

Be your own person. Think about what you can and are willing to wear all day long - including a reload. Do not be intimidated by "keyboard commando's" who don't follow their own rules. Try different guns and rigs and determine what is practical, comfortable and right for your situation. Practice with what you carry and stick with it instead of constantly rotating guns. You never want to have to think about what gun you have with you, if and when you need it. Consistency might be boring, but it is reliable and predictable.

NOTE: My so-called "credentials" come from carrying concealed for 50 years as a legally armed citizen in multiple States with completely different laws & regulations, in every type of situation one could encounter, trying what so called "experts" have initially written and said, extrapolating that information and then (most importantly) finding what worked for me. Trial & error and being honest with myself as to what I was willing & able to carry comfortably. I was a businessman in the NE and wore all kinds of clothing from suits to jeans and button down shirts with dress pants. My daily dress for the last 4 years now has been a pair of cargo shorts and a Tee shirt. I now rarely get dress up and almost never wear long pants. My equipment works absolutely perfectly with any clothing I wear and any where I go. I know what works for me - find what works for you, but be realistic and honest with yourself. Hope some here take away at least a little. I like to share from what I have learned the hard way, for others to benefit from - especially new EDC-er's.
I certainly get your point but having been involved in an off duty shooting where my family was present, has a tendency to change one's philosophy on what and how you carry. At least it did for me. Had I not been carrying what I did may have changed the outcome for me and my family. I do not find it hard to dress around a full sized pistol and I don't wear clothing that is "stand outish" or wrong for the season. A good holster, of course, helps because I don't carry a pistol because it's comfortable. I carry one that I consider effective, from my point of reference, based on past experience as a cop and firearms examiner. Your mileage may vary, but mental comfort is more important to me than physical comfort, but the fact is, I don't notice any discomfort carrying a full sized (Commander) pistol. Folks have to do what is best for them and I certainly realize that and what works for me isn't a revelation. As the old saying goes, " the best gun for a gunfight is the one you have with you".
 
I found that suspenders greatly facilitated IWB or OWB carry. Even with a good stiff belt, I would have to keep hiking up my trousers/shorts or they would wind up someplace south of my backside. The two weapons I do carry are a S&W M&P Shield Plus 2.0 (3.1 in) and a S&W M&P 9 2.0 (4 in), with both loaded with Federal HST +P 9mm. Taking a page from camouflaging, anything that can visually break up an outline, such a printed pattern shirts, will aid in concealment. I use Crossbreed hybrid holsters or Urban Holster leather holsters. Both do a good job of concealment and importantly keeping a barrier between skin and gun, a consideration for long hot GA summers. To protect the guns, I keep them in the leather IWB holsters when not in use or being transported. When driving I keep them in a covered pocket (part of a nylon seat cover) suspended in front of the drivers seat for quick access. I general, I observe situational awareness (stay in Condition Yellow or Orange) and avoid potential trouble spots in the Hotlanta area.
 

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