Ejection problems

[veggie530]

So I've read through many topics on this site and have yet to find one exactly like this.

I have an M&P15-22 that is several years old-- 2009 I think. It always had problems ejecting the shells (stove pipes, FTE's, etc.) but I recently fixed that problem with a slight tweak of the ejector.

Now, if I fire the gun, it fires the round and extracts the shell just like it should...however: if I charge the handle, it leaves the shell in the chamber. Magazine in, magazine out, whatever the case may be, it does not eject the shell in the chamber if I am charging the handle manually. I wiggle the gun and the shell falls right out -- and once again, if I were to pull the trigger and fire the gun, it would extract the shell no problem.

What gives? I don't know of any potential cause to this after googling until my eyes hurt. Any thoughts?

 

[GhostMutt]

Strange, sounds like it could be something to do with the extractor on the bolt? its not too gunked up with lube is it? Also might want to check the spring on the extractor as well, i have seen pics of them breaking, which may be hindering the correct extraction of the round manually.
Other than that i'm stumped and will keep watching for a better answer.

 

[sithlord]

Send it back to S&W for warrenty repairs.

 

[J. R. WEEMS]

I must concur with the above-- I have never had one of these and I doubt I ever will- however-- when ever I have noticed ejecting problems begin to rear their ugly heads I my FIRST course of action has always been a good cleaning and lube job. 99% of the time this seems to work for me-- lube can get old, or worn off, worn of in short order-- this seems to be more prevalent in firearms that are close fit-- there are such things such as 'frog lube. wd40 etc. that when used can slow down slides etc. JMHO.

 

[Rundover]

Need to check your extractor, it is probably full of ****. Its best to take it apart and give it a good cleaning and then re-assemble and test to see how it catches the chambered round and see if anything is interfering when the bolt is closed.

 

[tacticool22]

Pic of bolt and extractor?

 

[gwpercle]

It's the extractor. A 22 semi auto , when fired sort of blows the empty case out , extractor or no extractor . When you manually pull back the bolt , if the extractor is faulty it will leave the round in the chamber. Be careful here, I unintentionally discharged a 22 by thinking I had cleared the chamber, manually, by retracting the bolt several time .....the round was still in and it fired, pointed in a safe location but still unnerveing. I hadn't noticed the condition before because I usually fired all the rounds out of the magazine and when fired the cartridges were kicked out the chamber. Guess that's why they are called a "blow back" design. And now I LOOK to see if the chamber is clear .
Get both the extractor and ejector replaced....that's what I did.
Gary

 

[tacticool22]

Always lock your bolt back and leave the hammer cocked.
There is no need to "relieve the pressure" to the springs.

 

[cinnwalt]

It's the extractor. A 22 semi auto , when fired sort of blows the empty case out , extractor or no extractor . When you manually pull back the bolt , if the extractor is faulty it will leave the round in the chamber. Be careful here, I unintentionally discharged a 22 by thinking I had cleared the chamber, manually, by retracting the bolt several time .....the round was still in and it fired, pointed in a safe location but still unnerveing. I hadn't noticed the condition before because I usually fired all the rounds out of the magazine and when fired the cartridges were kicked out the chamber. Guess that's why they are called a "blow back" design. And now I LOOK to see if the chamber is clear .
Get both the extractor and ejector replaced....that's what I did.
Gary

This is just a great SAFETY reminder in general. These are the kinds of little things that get people in trouble who are generally very safe. I taught Hunter Safety for a long time and this has a good ending and great information due to the safety practices that were followed, (pointed in a safe direction). Good on ya !!!