Entry level 1911 advice.

If you have over $1000 of disposable income to blow on a 1911 and plan to use it a lot, then one of the higher end pistols might (I will not say will) be the better choice. If you are an average weekend recreational shooter on a more limited budget, then the much cheaper RIA or something similar will do the job just fine.
 
Save up a few more bucks and look at the colt competition model.....you get a whole lot of gun for the price and you can get them in .45, 9mm or .38 super. The competition is the second from the left.....the one to its right is a 70 series and the last on the right is a 38 super bright stainless. The first on the left is an xse very similar features to the competition with the addition of front slide serrations and no fiber optic sights. I had the competition tuned by Wilson and as good as Wilson is in tuning the 1911 the improvement in trigger feel is only incremental. My next colt competition is going to be a 38 super in blue 70 series. The 70 series competition is out in .45......budsguns has excellent prices on the competition and a good selection. Good luck.

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Let us know which 1911 you decide on...

I'm really liking the looks of the Springfield Range Officer, would definitely have to ungraded that black front sight. I'm still looking and open to all options. Thanks for all the great feedback thus far.
 
Guess I'll be the lone party-pooper here. I was bitten by the 1911 bug some time ago and purchased a Springfield GI. It was so trouble prone it went back to Springfield several times and was getting frustrating and expensive (lots of testing w/.45 ball ammo). I hung in there for about a year and finally just sold the thing and never looked back.
I have to say that this is the first time I've heard of a problem with a Springfield Armory 1911. I will say that the magazines that they come with aren't the best. The Range Officer is the darling of bullseye pistol competitors who start out and don't want to spend thousands right off for a customized 1911. I own a SA Trophy Match and a Loaded. Both are excellent pistols. I also own a couple of accurized Colts.
 
I'm really liking the looks of the Springfield Range Officer, would definitely have to ungraded that black front sight. I'm still looking and open to all options. Thanks for all the great feedback thus far.

What I liked most about the Springfield Range Officer was the match grade bushing and barrel. Don't get me wrong the trigger isn't bad at all and the slide fit is tight(no wiggle between the frame and slide) but what I wanted was a relatively inexpensive 1911 that was accurate at the range, all the other pros were a bonus. I picked up the stainless model because of the fiber optic front sight.

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I recently got a .45 ATI Military, 5", 8 + 1, shoots what you aim at. Pretty heavy keeps the gun on target. The handgun range I go to is only 12 or 25 yards. My 1st trip there with the gun I put everything inside an area about the circ. of a paper plate at 25 yds. I'm by no means a sharpshooter, but I know I can do 50 yds. Just plain old sights and all you can expect for about $400 including the background fees. Cheap? Yeah, but not a waste of money. The bad? Taking the damned thing apart for cleaning, etc.! But worth every penny. Good bedside gun or top of the refrigerator gun. I'd like to try one at a higher price range just to see if they shoot any better. Does anyone know if maybe a $1200 to 1500 pistol (Brand??) shoots noticeably better?
 
I've had various 1911's from different manufacturers. My go-to pistol is a no frills Springfield Mil Spec with a few homemade mods just because it is my guinea pig. I paid 600 for it used (CAD) and it is a great pistol.

It has all the edges de-horned which is something I haven't seen on any of the other Mil Specs I've owned (or on a lot of other makers' offerings).

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That being said, I'd never say X is definitely better than Y, everyone has their preferences and there are many folks with more experience than me. I'd say decide what features are important to you and that will help narrow your search.
 
It's gotten to be a bit of a complex issue.
I started messing about with 1911's back when it was Colt or nothing, unless you picked up a GI made by Ithaca, US&S, Remington-Rand, etc.

Now, different makers from all over.
I still enjoy my assorted Colts in 9mm, 10mm and .45, but bought a Charles Daly FS 5" a few years ago, cheap, as a 'woods beater'.
It's an out-of-production Philippine gun.

Was almost angry at how good it performs. Accurate, reliable with all bullet weights and profiles. Guess I wasn't prepared for that.
It was a used gun, and the previous owner had placed a set of 'Gunsite Ranch' wood grips on it - it may have been used at the school for class(es) he took...who knows?

Anyway - good luck on your search - there's LOTS of good choices available.
 
Look at the Rock Ultra, RIA #51486. I'd like to recommend the SA pistols product-wise, but after they and Rock River threw IL gun dealers under the bus earlier this year, I can't do it.
I don't understand, with Illinois politicians strangling gun owners for generations, why something that SA & RR supposedly did wrong, could be a tipping point in supporting a foreign company over an American company. I don't see any logic in attempting to put US gun companies, who make great products, out of business. If fingers are pointed, maybe they should be pointed towards pro-gun, but impotent Illinois organizations and political groups to get out their message and put the antis out of office.
 
Start with a standard 5" "Government" model.

.45 ACP.

Before buying, dry fire it. If the trigger doesn't feel great, don't buy it. A 1911 should have a great trigger.

Beware: 1911s are like Lays potato chips, you probably won't get just one.

Not sure about the advice to start with the 5 inch version but my experience with my Ruger SR1911 CMD has demonstrated that the shorter versions of the 1911 can more ammunition sensitive and need a bit of breaking in before they become reliable. In my case the CMD had a real preference for loads a bit on the "hot" side and as a result I am now loading my 45 ACP 230 grain range loads with 0.2 grains more SR7625 that what was reliable in my 5 inch SR1911's.

As for the advice about 1911's being like Lay's chips I have to agree with that 100% because I currently own two 5 inch SR1911's, one Stainless SR1911 CMD in 45 ACP, and one Lightweight SR1911 CMD in 9mm. Yeah, all of my 1911's are Rugers, because IMO you just cannot do any better in terms of the balance between quality, accuracy, and cost.

Now, concerning the Ruger 1911's. All but one of mine had a trigger with a 4.5 lbs. break out of the box and it was easy for me to tune the trigger on that one oddball that broke at 5.5 lbs. BTW, the 5.5 lbs. trigger was a very early production pistol so IMO Ruger did a bit of learning with the first 6 months of production and since then the triggers have become very consistent. There is a small bit of Sear Creep (about 0.03 inch) with a very clean break.

I will also say the Ruger's are a bit loose in fitup between slide and frame so they will rattle. However I have two Sig P239's that could be described as baby rattles wheich have proven to be 100% reliable over nearly 10 years of use and accurate enough to shoot 1.5 inch groups at 50 feet when I am shooting well. Both of my 5 inch Rugers have been 100% flawless in function and accuracy is in the range of 2 inches at 50 feet. The Stainless CMD in 45 ACP was a bit unreliable at first but it's been over a year now without any function issues.

Note, at times I have wondered if my SR1911 wasn't intended to be a sample for some magazine reviewer. Because even though it does rattle it's accuracy has actually started me on many occasions. Been way too many occasions where I've been taking my time at 50 feet to test myself where I have been rewarded with a near perfect center hit on the bullseye. Basically, it's a No Excuses pistol because it shoots exactly where the pistol is aimed when the trigger breaks. If I have a day where I am flinching and pulling left it shoots Low and Left and I know darned well the fault is with me. Because when I concentrate on Technique it shoots exactly where I have it aimed.

As for the 9mm, to be blunt the Ruger 9mm magazines just do NOT measure up, the feed lips are about 1/16 inch too short and double feeds were a constant problem. My response was to spend the money for Wilson Combat 9mm magazines and it has only had 1 double feed with the Wilson magazines about 3 months ago. BTW the 9mm is so much fun to shoot and gentle in terms of recoil I plan on slowly building up a stock of 12 of the Wilson 9mm magazines. Accuracy of the 9mm is good but does not measure up to my 45 caliber CMD, it's basically as accurate as my 5 inch 45 caliber 1911's. I also had to replace the front sight on my 9mm because even with 115 grain ammunition it was shooting a good 2 inches about the sight at 10 yards. Fortunately I had a spare sight for the 45 ACP SR1911's and that put the sights dead on perfect for 147 grain 9mm loads. Anyone else finding the same sight regulation issue should look for a front sight with a height above the base of 0.220/0.230 inch. IIRC Ed Brown and Wilson Combat both offer front sights at this height that fit the Novak Dovetail.
 
Made my decision it's gonna be the Springfield Range Officer Operator 9mm. Has the better front sight and rear combat style sights more to my taste and 9mm so I can afford more ammo to buy more guns like the 45 version next. Appreciate the help.
 
Made my decision it's gonna be the Springfield Range Officer Operator 9mm. Has the better front sight and rear combat style sights more to my taste and 9mm so I can afford more ammo to buy more guns like the 45 version next. Appreciate the help.


I was just going to suggest a used SA RO, perhaps in 9mm. I got one used with a few "upgrades" done by the previous owner. I LOVE mine. Super reliable and accurate, especially for the price. I don't usually recommend upgrades and such to people getting a new gun, but with the front strap not being checkered, I really like my RO with some G10 type grips and some grip tape on the front strap until I can afford to send it off for some work.
 
One more to add to the confusion: STI makes some high-end 1911s at prices several times the target price, but they also offered a model called the Spartan at around $600. Not sure they're still in production, but if you can find one, grab it. They're built on an Armscor frame, with the STI internals assembled and tuned at STI by the same folks who build the high=priced guns.
 

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