Ergo J frame Delta grip.
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ridgewalker
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Here's a gun writer's take on the grips which he handled (but did not shoot) at SHOT.
New Product spotlight: ERGO Grips Delta revolver grip | Gun Nuts Media
Looks interesting and I would like to hear how it shoots also.
New Product spotlight: ERGO Grips Delta revolver grip | Gun Nuts Media
Looks interesting and I would like to hear how it shoots also.
slabside2
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My god that's ugly! I just couldn't bring myself to put that on my J Frame. I don't care how good it feels my hand. But that's just me. To each his own.
Alk8944
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For years I have considered making a wood set of stocks for a J-Frame very much like those, I will have to try them. Ugly, very! But it's a very natural grip if your middle finger knuckle hits the back of the trigger guard and gets the beans beat out of it!
** As a matter of fact I was going to order one just now, $19.95 on their web-store, but they want a minimum of $12.38 shipping!!!!!! Forget it.
** As a matter of fact I was going to order one just now, $19.95 on their web-store, but they want a minimum of $12.38 shipping!!!!!! Forget it.
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Thats bought the ugliest grip I've ever saw. None will ever reside here.
From the article: "My initial impressions are pretty good. Yes, it's ugly. But I don't carry a j-frame to impress people with how pretty my gun is, I carry it to shoot smelly badguys in the face in defense of my life."
Ha, ha. "smelly bad guys".
Ha, ha. "smelly bad guys".
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It looks all wrong, but I am intrigued and I'd like to try it.
Boogsawaste
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I don't care for the looks, but I bought my j frames to shoot so I might give one a try. I don't need the bad guy to being all ooh and ahh over how nice my revolver looks.
Ugly Grip!
May be but, picture a set crafted by one of the stock makers on this forum and made from one of the exotic woods they have access to, you may be surprised very pleasantly, never say never!
May be but, picture a set crafted by one of the stock makers on this forum and made from one of the exotic woods they have access to, you may be surprised very pleasantly, never say never!
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Crosstimbers Okie
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I ordered on a few days ago. Hopefully it will ship soon and I can give a report.
I handled it last month. I hated the way it felt. It alters the angles at which you hold he firearm. If firing from the hip or a retention position it felt all wrong.
However they are sending me a sample and I will give it a fair shake.
It is going to be one of those things that if you start with it on your first gun it will feel OK, but if you are changing to it after 10 or 20 or 30 years you won't like it.
It is made from the same material as the AR grip.
However they are sending me a sample and I will give it a fair shake.
It is going to be one of those things that if you start with it on your first gun it will feel OK, but if you are changing to it after 10 or 20 or 30 years you won't like it.
It is made from the same material as the AR grip.
I believe it was Walter Roper (or perhaps it was Steve Herrett) who observed that if you take your empty hand and clasp it as if grasping a gun, the shape of the empty space inside your hand resembles an ice cream cone, similar to the shape of this grip- narrow at the bottom and wider at the top.
The problem with mimicking this when it comes to handgun grips, however, is that while such a shape seems, on the surface, to be a natural choice, a grip shaped like this will tend to swim upwards (raising the bore axis) and out of the hand as pressure is applied to due the hand firmly grasping the grip and/or recoil. This might not be quite as apparent with a sticky rubber grip but a smooth hard grip shaped like this Ergo grip would be a nightmare trying to keep ahold.
There's a reason most grips are shaped larger at the bottom than at the top, however counterintuitive it may look (keeping in mind the ice cream cone). With such a grip recoil or grasping pressure forces the grip down in the hand, keeping the hand high on the gun and lowering the bore axis, which is far more preferable.
The problem with mimicking this when it comes to handgun grips, however, is that while such a shape seems, on the surface, to be a natural choice, a grip shaped like this will tend to swim upwards (raising the bore axis) and out of the hand as pressure is applied to due the hand firmly grasping the grip and/or recoil. This might not be quite as apparent with a sticky rubber grip but a smooth hard grip shaped like this Ergo grip would be a nightmare trying to keep ahold.
There's a reason most grips are shaped larger at the bottom than at the top, however counterintuitive it may look (keeping in mind the ice cream cone). With such a grip recoil or grasping pressure forces the grip down in the hand, keeping the hand high on the gun and lowering the bore axis, which is far more preferable.
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HiCap
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I received my grips Monday and have used them on two occasions to the range. My 442 does point quicker without having to tweek the sight picture. The grip reduces the perceived recoil a bit. The 442 feels very solid in the hand. Since it is narrower than the Pachmayr I usually have on the 442 it conceals in a breast pocket and Simply Rugger very well. And, as a bonus, so far I shoot a tad more accurately. I told the manufacturer that I will order two more for my LCR's, .22 and .357, I'm so pleased.
HiCap
HiCap
Superglue
This delta grip is magic !
Mod.60-9 357 s/w j frame .158gr. 357 fed.ammo does not hurt hand! All who tried my rev. Were amazed. A ruger 100 my cousin brought was much less controlable. I stumbled into this site by accident,and registered only to share this super find.
Hope ya'll can over look it's precieved lack of beauty.
It looks better to me every time I shoot with it.
Beauty is in the hand of the beholder.
Peace through strength.
Superglue
This delta grip is magic !
Mod.60-9 357 s/w j frame .158gr. 357 fed.ammo does not hurt hand! All who tried my rev. Were amazed. A ruger 100 my cousin brought was much less controlable. I stumbled into this site by accident,and registered only to share this super find.
Hope ya'll can over look it's precieved lack of beauty.
It looks better to me every time I shoot with it.
Beauty is in the hand of the beholder.
Peace through strength.
Superglue
Crosstimbers Okie
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Well, I've had it for a month or so and put a couple of hundred rounds or so through a Model 442 wearing them.
There are worse grips. I have a box full of them. (I've been shooting J-Frames since 1991. I have nearly as many J-frame holsters.) I have slightly larger than average hands. I wear large size gloves. These grips, for me, should either expose the backstrap so that I can get up high in the backstrap like a Centennial or Bodyguard was meant to be gripped, or come up higher on the frame with the covered backstrap so that, once again, you can get up as high as possible to control recoil. This of course, requires two versions of the grip--one for Centennials & Bodyguards, and one for model 36 pattern guns.
But, I understand that from a business perspective that one size probably has to fit all for the price.
Is it worth it? My opinion is yes, if you are shooting the 15 ounce alloy frame guns. It makes them quite comfortable for a couple hundred rounds at the range. I'll be keeping mine on my 442. For steel frame guns I would stick with the boot style grips. The extra five to nine ounces makes all the difference in shootability.
There are worse grips. I have a box full of them. (I've been shooting J-Frames since 1991. I have nearly as many J-frame holsters.) I have slightly larger than average hands. I wear large size gloves. These grips, for me, should either expose the backstrap so that I can get up high in the backstrap like a Centennial or Bodyguard was meant to be gripped, or come up higher on the frame with the covered backstrap so that, once again, you can get up as high as possible to control recoil. This of course, requires two versions of the grip--one for Centennials & Bodyguards, and one for model 36 pattern guns.
But, I understand that from a business perspective that one size probably has to fit all for the price.
Is it worth it? My opinion is yes, if you are shooting the 15 ounce alloy frame guns. It makes them quite comfortable for a couple hundred rounds at the range. I'll be keeping mine on my 442. For steel frame guns I would stick with the boot style grips. The extra five to nine ounces makes all the difference in shootability.
jfp357
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It looks....not so good.....but if it shoots good that's what it is all about. I never liked Captain Kirks faser but it worked so good.
66snub
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So, beyond the comfort and control issue, how fast is your purchase in quick acquisition for presentation from the holster? Does it take any extra time to get hold of the gun for deployment?
That is where the rubber meets the road for me. As you all know, a J Frames sole intent and purpose in life is as a carry gun, so does this grip negate or lessen its efficiency in this?
That is where the rubber meets the road for me. As you all know, a J Frames sole intent and purpose in life is as a carry gun, so does this grip negate or lessen its efficiency in this?
smokey04
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Looks to me like a reincarnation of Fuzzy Ferrant's concept.I will try them. I agree that they would look better in exotic wood but, they may not work as well as "goodyears" for recoil control.Meanwhile,as the flea said when he bit the elephant in the "nether region", "everyone to his own taste". Nick
Crosstimbers Okie
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I can't tell much difference in speed. My hand contorts in a variety of ways. It's all in the manner in which you train yourself. These days I rarely carry a J-Frame. When I do it's on an ankle or in a pocket. As with any rubber grips, the more you use them the smoother and less tacky they become. Tacky is the issue for me. It's both a blessing and a curse. A blessing in that the gun can be shot from a variety of half-*** grips in a hurry. A curse in that it can stick to the inside of a pocket and slow down the draw. Use, sweat, lubes and solvents all remove the excessive tacky from rubber holsters in a short time.
Big Dog Dad
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Anyone else besides manufacturer selling these?
I want to try these but I just can't pay the ridiculous shipping cost that the manufacturers wants. Unless they are being hand carried to my house by a playboy bunny, I'll buy them elsewhere!
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I want to try these but I just can't pay the ridiculous shipping cost that the manufacturers wants. Unless they are being hand carried to my house by a playboy bunny, I'll buy them elsewhere!
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Big Dog Dad
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Still looking for Ergo grips...
I'm still looking for these grips from someone with reasonable shipping charges. Anyone seen them anywhere?
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I'm still looking for these grips from someone with reasonable shipping charges. Anyone seen them anywhere?
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I handled a prototype last year at the NRA show and I liked the way it felt on the blue gun. I was trying to get a set to do a T&E, but sort of dropped the ball on that. I'll be back later this week and will be talking to the rep again.
I have to tell you that they felt really comfortable, but of course I wasn't firing them. I have a 642 and shooting it is not at all pleasant and I've tried a number of grips over the years.
If this is as comfortable shooting as it is just holding on a blue gun, they should sell a lot of them.
The shipping costs are pretty high considering how much the grips cost. I wonder if someone did a group buy they would bundle the shipping costs?
I'm not suggesting a group buy, but I will see what the rep has to say when I talk to him.
I have to tell you that they felt really comfortable, but of course I wasn't firing them. I have a 642 and shooting it is not at all pleasant and I've tried a number of grips over the years.
If this is as comfortable shooting as it is just holding on a blue gun, they should sell a lot of them.
The shipping costs are pretty high considering how much the grips cost. I wonder if someone did a group buy they would bundle the shipping costs?
I'm not suggesting a group buy, but I will see what the rep has to say when I talk to him.
Crosstimbers Okie
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The more I use these grips, the more I like them. They cushion recoil pretty well on an Airweight, and are very comfortable and controllable. I'm going to spend some more time with them at the range alongside my Airweights with Altamont grips http://www.altamontco.com/experimental/shared/photos/SJR-FO07.jpg and evaluate them. But, so far, these are a winner once you get past the unorthodox shape.
