Ergo J frame Delta grip.

My shooting the 442 with the Ergo grip has improved exponentially. I no longer shoot low at seven o'clock. I'm centered in and around the black at 25 feet. It's made me a believer. Will get sets for my .357 and .22 LCR's.

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A friend sent me a pair to try on my customized 36-1 - I have to say, they point amazingly well. As in, look at a spot, close your eyes, point at it, open your eyes, and the gold bead is right where it should be - on the spot, centered in the rear sight.

They do the same for my wife, as well, and she has a much smaller hand than I do. I'm looking forward to heading to the range with them to see how they handle recoil/follow-up shots.

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I'm shocked to see I never reported back: these things handle recoil very well. They're staying on the gun - I've shot a mess of +Ps through the 36-1, and I find the gun to be more controllable than ever with the ErgoGrips installed, and the thing just points so fast . . .
 
Yes they do. They're funky & it took me a few cylinders to master it, but they are very controllable. A lot lighter than Pach's.
 
My god that's ugly! I just couldn't bring myself to put that on my J Frame. I don't care how good it feels my hand. But that's just me. To each his own.

Ugly is right! I am more of a traditional kind of guy. I would not even do that to a Taurus! Bob
 

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Bananaman, you are right....probably not fit for a Taurus. But I have to say they do work (yea, feel really weird) but they do work. Quite compact and lightweight too. For a dyed in the wool Glockster they will feel quite natural. Like you, I like the traditional feel and look of lumber, but I had to give way to functionality since this J is my back up on duty.
 
I didn't know about these grips until I stumbled onto this thread. These are the most atrociously butt-ugly grips I have ever, in all my born days, laid eyes upon. However, and if they make shooting a J-frame easier and more accurately, and as I always carry my 642 concealed, I am seriously trying to care less what they look like. In fact I may order a pair but I won't tell any of my shooting buddies. It'll be just our little secret.
 
I'm shocked to see I never reported back: these things handle recoil very well. They're staying on the gun - I've shot a mess of +Ps through the 36-1, and I find the gun to be more controllable than ever with the ErgoGrips installed, and the thing just points so fast . . .


I'll have to give these a try. I've been away from J frames for a while as I caught SIG fever about a year ago. They sure are ugly! :)
 
Do any of you that have the Delta grip also have Pachmayr's Presentation/Compac grips and how do they compare?

Thanks. :)
 
I do have Compacs, but I don't think I have any photos of them.

Does the delta grip absorb more recoil than the compac's? I guess that you like the delta grip better.

I might have to try them out, they aren't that expensive.
 
I carry a 340PD 'cuz it's so easy to conceal, rather than increasing it's size to make it more shootable I would just carry a larger gun to start with!
 
Does the delta grip absorb more recoil than the compac's?

Well, in the first place, that's going to depend on the hand geometry of the individual shooting. I've got normal sized adult male hands, but I have fairly hollow palms relative to normal, and my fingers might be a little on the long side. What works for me is not going to work for my friend with Sasquatch hands, or my friend with stubby fingers. So, take what I have to say with a grain of salt: it's how it feels for me, which might not translate for you.

Secondly, it's hard to talk about recoil in these because I've only used the Compacs and the Ergo Grip Delta Grips on a .38 Special revolver, and I honestly don't recall there being any sort of a recoil issue with my +P loads and either set of stocks. I'm not saying a warm loaded .38 can't recoil out of a J-frame (or that some stocks can't transmit that recoil in an unfortunate manner), just that both of these are just fine in my experience.

My recollection (since it's been a little while since I've shot the gun with either) is that the Compacs are a little fatter (so they give you more to hang onto on the horizontal axis) but they don't protect your middle finger from the trigger guard (a potential issue with stiff loads, as we all know) so well. The Delta Grip is fairly flat and feels like it'll drive back into your palm more, but doesn't because you're grabbing so much of it . . . and there's no issue with trigger guard whack at all (due to the way it places your hand). Both sets of stocks point well, but the Delta Grip points better for me insofar as no eye coordination, thinking or wrist movement is involved - I can point blindfolded at a target and hit it with these. I find follow-up shots are faster with the Delta Grip, too, which could argue that they mitigate recoil more, but I think it's really just a function of how they point for me.

Hope that helps. :o

Edited: by the way, it was a really good idea you had to compare them to the Compacs, which also extend the length of pull/distance between the backstrap and the trigger to something that's a little easier for the average adult male. Both sets of stocks increase the size of the J-frame and take it out of the super-concealable package that is often sought - personally, I wouldn't use either on a pocket gun. On a 3" J-frame, though, either the Compacs or the Delta Grip make the gun more useful to me - the gun becomes a lighter, skinnier K-frame for shooting purposes. I would not that, while I've had Pachmayr Compacs for years and would sometimes trot them out for range use, they really didn't ride on my 36-1 very often - the performance improvement was not enough to get me beyond the detraction in the gun's appearance (I like blue steel and walnut), so I'd stick with the factory splinters and a T-grip. The Ergo Grip Delta Grip has stayed mounted on my 36-1: it's ugly as a hog-nosed snake, but the sucker will shoot.
 
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I know the Shot Show was last month so this may be a bit premature. However, I'm curious; has anyone had a chance to shoot a J frame with Ergo Grips new 'Delta' grip? If so what's your take?

Hello Y'all,

Is there any updated opinions on this grip?

Advise when possible. :D

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The ergo don't so much as reduce recoil as redirect it. For me, muzzle flip was somewhat reduced, but after 20-30 rounds of +p rounds, I was feeling some discomfort along the thin line of the back of the grip. I get the impression more of the recoil impulse was being pushed straight back into my palm than say a boot-type grip.

Also, for pocket carry, the ergo grips don't seem to make the revolver any less concealable.

As always, YMMV.
 
I took the Ergo grips off my 442 after I returned from the range yesterday. They seemed to cant my wrist at an angle that increased the recoil impact, the last thing I need with an alloy snubby. I had the longer Hogue grips on a 637 I recently sold and I don't recall such an unacceptable level of impact.

Anyway, I replaced the Ergos on the 442 with wood grips and a Tyler-T. When I find the Hogues I'll try them. In the meantime the aesthetics of the 442 are vastly improved.

Also, the 442 (at least this one) is in dire need of a trigger job.
Would an hour spent with snap caps help, or is it off to the gunsmith?
 

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