Hi. New to the forums but certainly not new to Smith & Wessons. I was about to order a set of these a few minutes ago, but like a previous poster, the shipping cost turned me off. IMHO, good old USPS shipping for 3 or 4 bucks would be fine. I hate to spend what amounts to about 2/3 the cost of the grips just to get them to me. I'm sure eventually somebody else will offer these for sale. I hope so anyway.
Ergo J frame Delta grip.
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Brownells has them for less than the Ergo Grip site. Price is $16.00, plus shipping.
The Ergo Grip people told me that Brownells, Midway, and soon Optics Planet will be stocking them. I think they keep the price high so as not to undercut their retail partners.
The Ergo Grip people told me that Brownells, Midway, and soon Optics Planet will be stocking them. I think they keep the price high so as not to undercut their retail partners.
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I called Ergo to order mine. They have been fixing a shipping error on their website. They said it should be changed soon, but that if you call they can ship it US Postal for around $6.
royal barnes
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They have fixed the shipping issue. I ordered a set middle of the week and paid the high shipping costs. Two days later I received an email crediting my account for $8.02. The set arrived today by USPS Priority Mail. Not happy with the look but they are very comfortable in the hand. Will be shooting with them tomorrow on my 640-1.
royal barnes
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I tried the Ergo grips. I put 100 rounds of mixed ammo through my 640-1 this morning with good results. The grips are ugly as a horned toad but very comfortable in my small hands. The draw presentation is a little different because of the added material under the triggerguard but it was really not an issue and the sights were dead on every time I drew. Accuracy was excellent. Perceived recoil was less with my 158 grain home rolled swc's and the Speer Gold Dot SB's I normally carry. My real surprise came when shooting Speer 158 grain .357's. I have tried shooting magnums in this gun on two occasions with two different types of grips . Each time I pulled the trigger once and said, "no more"! I thought I had broken my thumb and the cylinder latch took a divot out of that digit. I fired 10 magnum rounds though the gun today. The recoil was noticeable but not painful and recovery for a second shot was easy. I don't know that I'll carry magnums but now I know I can. I believe the Ergo Grips at least for me are a keeper.
I posted my experience in a similar, but different thread. I found my 642 much more comfortable to shoot with the Delta Grips. Because of that, my accuracy at 21 feet increased significantly, particularly my grouping.
Since I pocket carry my 6423 and it's a sort of last ditch self defense gun, I don't care much how it looks.
I asked at one point and one of the reps said that they do have some plans to make them in different colors. I don't now if that will help, but it probably won't hurt.
I have a friend who has a 442 who is an infrequent shooter. He doesn't like the recoil of the 442 and I want him to try shooting my 642 to see how much better he does with it.
Since I pocket carry my 6423 and it's a sort of last ditch self defense gun, I don't care much how it looks.
I asked at one point and one of the reps said that they do have some plans to make them in different colors. I don't now if that will help, but it probably won't hurt.
I have a friend who has a 442 who is an infrequent shooter. He doesn't like the recoil of the 442 and I want him to try shooting my 642 to see how much better he does with it.
I tried the Ergo grips. I put 100 rounds of mixed ammo through my 640-1 this morning with good results. The grips are ugly as a horned toad but very comfortable in my small hands. The draw presentation is a little different because of the added material under the triggerguard but it was really not an issue and the sights were dead on every time I drew. Accuracy was excellent. Perceived recoil was less with my 158 grain home rolled swc's and the Speer Gold Dot SB's I normally carry. My real surprise came when shooting Speer 158 grain .357's. I have tried shooting magnums in this gun on two occasions with two different types of grips . Each time I pulled the trigger once and said, "no more"! I thought I had broken my thumb and the cylinder latch took a divot out of that digit. I fired 10 magnum rounds though the gun today. The recoil was noticeable but not painful and recovery for a second shot was easy. I don't know that I'll carry magnums but now I know I can. I believe the Ergo Grips at least for me are a keeper.
slabside2
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I want to try a set but I just can't do it. I keep seeing Mr Smith and Mr Wesson look down on me shaking there heads.
I love them!
I love these grips! Since I switched from the Desantis Clip Grip, I use them with the Clip Draw. I don't like the Clip Draw as much, but these grip are worth the trade off. Once they make/sell them in a non-overmolded (smooth) finish, I will definitely buy those.
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/gdfgbnnznslk10y/AAB6pUr7jNq21n3hZvHQDUlYa
I love these grips! Since I switched from the Desantis Clip Grip, I use them with the Clip Draw. I don't like the Clip Draw as much, but these grip are worth the trade off. Once they make/sell them in a non-overmolded (smooth) finish, I will definitely buy those.
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/gdfgbnnznslk10y/AAB6pUr7jNq21n3hZvHQDUlYa
HiCap
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My shooting the 442 with the Ergo grip has improved exponentially. I no longer shoot low at seven o'clock. I'm centered in and around the black at 25 feet. It's made me a believer. Will get sets for my .357 and .22 LCR's.
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Erich
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A friend sent me a pair to try on my customized 36-1 - I have to say, they point amazingly well. As in, look at a spot, close your eyes, point at it, open your eyes, and the gold bead is right where it should be - on the spot, centered in the rear sight.
They do the same for my wife, as well, and she has a much smaller hand than I do. I'm looking forward to heading to the range with them to see how they handle recoil/follow-up shots.
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They do the same for my wife, as well, and she has a much smaller hand than I do. I'm looking forward to heading to the range with them to see how they handle recoil/follow-up shots.
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Erich
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I'm shocked to see I never reported back: these things handle recoil very well. They're staying on the gun - I've shot a mess of +Ps through the 36-1, and I find the gun to be more controllable than ever with the ErgoGrips installed, and the thing just points so fast . . .
bananaman
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Ugly is right! I am more of a traditional kind of guy. I would not even do that to a Taurus! Bob
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Bananaman, you are right....probably not fit for a Taurus. But I have to say they do work (yea, feel really weird) but they do work. Quite compact and lightweight too. For a dyed in the wool Glockster they will feel quite natural. Like you, I like the traditional feel and look of lumber, but I had to give way to functionality since this J is my back up on duty.
exdetsgt
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I didn't know about these grips until I stumbled onto this thread. These are the most atrociously butt-ugly grips I have ever, in all my born days, laid eyes upon. However, and if they make shooting a J-frame easier and more accurately, and as I always carry my 642 concealed, I am seriously trying to care less what they look like. In fact I may order a pair but I won't tell any of my shooting buddies. It'll be just our little secret.
photoman
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I'll have to give these a try. I've been away from J frames for a while as I caught SIG fever about a year ago. They sure are ugly!
Erich
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Shucks, I may just go pull the 36-1 out of the safe . . .
Shorty 45 MK2
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Do any of you that have the Delta grip also have Pachmayr's Presentation/Compac grips and how do they compare?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Erich
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I do have Compacs, but I don't think I have any photos of them.
Shorty 45 MK2
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Does the delta grip absorb more recoil than the compac's? I guess that you like the delta grip better.
I might have to try them out, they aren't that expensive.
huntrfishr1
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I carry a 340PD 'cuz it's so easy to conceal, rather than increasing it's size to make it more shootable I would just carry a larger gun to start with!
gatchelguy
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Looks like the rats started eating the grips off the gun.....And that's all that is left.
Erich
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Well, in the first place, that's going to depend on the hand geometry of the individual shooting. I've got normal sized adult male hands, but I have fairly hollow palms relative to normal, and my fingers might be a little on the long side. What works for me is not going to work for my friend with Sasquatch hands, or my friend with stubby fingers. So, take what I have to say with a grain of salt: it's how it feels for me, which might not translate for you.
Secondly, it's hard to talk about recoil in these because I've only used the Compacs and the Ergo Grip Delta Grips on a .38 Special revolver, and I honestly don't recall there being any sort of a recoil issue with my +P loads and either set of stocks. I'm not saying a warm loaded .38 can't recoil out of a J-frame (or that some stocks can't transmit that recoil in an unfortunate manner), just that both of these are just fine in my experience.
My recollection (since it's been a little while since I've shot the gun with either) is that the Compacs are a little fatter (so they give you more to hang onto on the horizontal axis) but they don't protect your middle finger from the trigger guard (a potential issue with stiff loads, as we all know) so well. The Delta Grip is fairly flat and feels like it'll drive back into your palm more, but doesn't because you're grabbing so much of it . . . and there's no issue with trigger guard whack at all (due to the way it places your hand). Both sets of stocks point well, but the Delta Grip points better for me insofar as no eye coordination, thinking or wrist movement is involved - I can point blindfolded at a target and hit it with these. I find follow-up shots are faster with the Delta Grip, too, which could argue that they mitigate recoil more, but I think it's really just a function of how they point for me.
Hope that helps.
Edited: by the way, it was a really good idea you had to compare them to the Compacs, which also extend the length of pull/distance between the backstrap and the trigger to something that's a little easier for the average adult male. Both sets of stocks increase the size of the J-frame and take it out of the super-concealable package that is often sought - personally, I wouldn't use either on a pocket gun. On a 3" J-frame, though, either the Compacs or the Delta Grip make the gun more useful to me - the gun becomes a lighter, skinnier K-frame for shooting purposes. I would not that, while I've had Pachmayr Compacs for years and would sometimes trot them out for range use, they really didn't ride on my 36-1 very often - the performance improvement was not enough to get me beyond the detraction in the gun's appearance (I like blue steel and walnut), so I'd stick with the factory splinters and a T-grip. The Ergo Grip Delta Grip has stayed mounted on my 36-1: it's ugly as a hog-nosed snake, but the sucker will shoot.
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Rhetorician
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Hello Y'all,
Is there any updated opinions on this grip?
Advise when possible.
rd
Hello Y'all,
Is there any updated opinions on this grip?
Advise when possible.
rd
dynamike
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Big L.E.E.
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The ergo don't so much as reduce recoil as redirect it. For me, muzzle flip was somewhat reduced, but after 20-30 rounds of +p rounds, I was feeling some discomfort along the thin line of the back of the grip. I get the impression more of the recoil impulse was being pushed straight back into my palm than say a boot-type grip.
Also, for pocket carry, the ergo grips don't seem to make the revolver any less concealable.
As always, YMMV.
Also, for pocket carry, the ergo grips don't seem to make the revolver any less concealable.
As always, YMMV.
exdetsgt
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I took the Ergo grips off my 442 after I returned from the range yesterday. They seemed to cant my wrist at an angle that increased the recoil impact, the last thing I need with an alloy snubby. I had the longer Hogue grips on a 637 I recently sold and I don't recall such an unacceptable level of impact.
Anyway, I replaced the Ergos on the 442 with wood grips and a Tyler-T. When I find the Hogues I'll try them. In the meantime the aesthetics of the 442 are vastly improved.
Also, the 442 (at least this one) is in dire need of a trigger job.
Would an hour spent with snap caps help, or is it off to the gunsmith?
Anyway, I replaced the Ergos on the 442 with wood grips and a Tyler-T. When I find the Hogues I'll try them. In the meantime the aesthetics of the 442 are vastly improved.
Also, the 442 (at least this one) is in dire need of a trigger job.
Would an hour spent with snap caps help, or is it off to the gunsmith?
