Ever accidently tumble a live round, or two??

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Well, I just did. Scared the **** out of me after I pulled them out of the media separater. Was cleaning up some 38 brass for the K38 with some corn cob lizard litter i decided to try, heard from some of you that it works as well - it did.
I looked and said oh s**t when i found two live rounds in the mix but they didn't go off.
Should i fire them or pull the bullets?
:eek:
 
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I know a guy who used to do it DELIBERATELY. Yeah. HE SAID ID MADE THEM SHINY!!
I was a little unsettled by this.
 
I've tumbled WW2 mil-surp on purpose to remove corrosion. A few rounds at a time, and not for much time. Too much time will make smaller powder grains which will increase pressure.
 
we load a lot of rounds and tumble most of them a short time to remove oil from handling them
 
Done it by accident many times, not much chance of it going off. When I was a kid I used to set live rounds up and shoot the primers with a pellet gun, took many shots, and set them off, not what you'd think, a firecracker pop and the case would go flying a ways but the bullet(heavier) would only go a few feet. Nothing like when it is contained in a gun barrel.
 
I've tumbled WW2 mil-surp on purpose to remove corrosion. A few rounds at a time, and not for much time. Too much time will make smaller powder grains which will increase pressure.

If tumbled long enough resulting in changed granulation size it will change burn rate . Potentially dangerous .
Tumbling for a short time -a few minutes- to remove sizing lubricant most likely ok .
 
Did it a lot by accident. No problems. Shot just fine. All have been handgun rounds.
 
Done it by accident many times, not much chance of it going off. When I was a kid I used to set live rounds up and shoot the primers with a pellet gun, took many shots, and set them off, not what you'd think, a firecracker pop and the case would go flying a ways but the bullet(heavier) would only go a few feet. Nothing like when it is contained in a gun barrel.

we used to do even dumber stuff like tape a BB to the primer of a .22 round and slam it by hand on the concrete:eek:... i was much younger and obviously much dumber then :o
 
I've never accidentally tumbled a live round but I have indeed INTENTIONALLY tumbled live rounds... no ill effect.

I've done both. No problems.
One live 9mm round found it's way in with the brass last night. I found it this AM. That is one shiny cartridge! :D

I've heard that tumbling certain types of powders can break up the powder making it faster.
 
I have a cartridge collection, and often tumble old tarnished rounds to clean them up. I wouldn't tumble rimfire ammo, but with centerfires I don't worry about it. If one was to go off, inside the tumbler barrel, what would happen? Not much. The brass case would rupture, and the expanding gases would raise pressure inside the drum for a second, until it bled out the seals. That's it. No big deal.

As for tumbling ammo and grinding the powder into smaller bits, thus changing the burning rate..........I'm not convinced. We used to keep extra ammo in the trunks of our patrol cars, some of it for a couple of years, and when we shot it up there was NO apparent difference. A chronograph might have showed a change, but it fired just fine, and shot to the same point of impact.

Ten years ago I loaded a bunch of ammo (two lots) for off-duty and backup use, and one lot of it wound up sitting on my floorboards for about five years, I just forgot it was there. When I got a chronograph I compared the car ammo to the other half of the same batch, and there was NO discernable difference. I pull out five rounds once a year and re-test it, and there has been no change, despite the fact that the car ammo is bounced all over creation on bumpy roads and subjected to temperature ranges that would break a rock.

The ammo in question was loaded with WST, a small-flake shotgun powder, so maybe other powder types would be affected more. But ball powder can't change much, and I can't see high-density rifle ammo having its powder ground into corn meal, either. It sounds good in theory, but I have yet to see anything close to proof that such a change actually occurs.

I'd be more inclined to believe that high temperatures would have a detrimental effect on the ammo, but that doesn't seem to be the case either.
 
A few months ago I tumbled for several hours about a dozen old .458 Win Mag's that I had bought at an estate sale, just to try to clean them up.
There are several threads on this (both the danger and the powder break down) on the various forums. General agreement seems to be that there are no ill effects.
 
Some guy on ARFCOM did a pretty lengthy but of course unofficial study on this. He found no degradation in powder, no primers were ignited, and no bullets became unseated. I forget how long he left them in the tumbler but it was for quite a while. If the theory was shifter to black powder then you would have some serious issues I would think. But modern nitrocellulose in its many forms doesn't simply turn to dust in a tumbler and change to nitroglycerin. And primers need a pretty big whack to ignite. I would worry the most about the bullet unseating and moving around on you but that appeared to be a non-issue. I just use a blue shop towel to remove oils or anything from ammo. It isn't very often that I worry about it.
 
tumbled 10s of thousands. no problem. tumbled in a standard vibratory tumbler with the type of media we use almost impossible to generate enough energy to set one off. if it did go off the media would absorb the energy as it is non directional.
 
Same as SP45....tumbled thousands of them with NO PROBLEM whatsoever.
Randy
 

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