external extractor 1911

I can change and tune an internal extractor at the kitchen table.

External needs to be held in a vise or things get difficult.
Not so, I've removed and replaced my external extractors more than once on my 10xx series with just a cutting block with a handle at one end and the right punch and hammer?
 
Not so, I've removed and replaced my external extractors more than once on my 10xx series with just a cutting block with a handle at one end and the right punch and hammer?

Maybe you can.

But let's see, Hold the slide on the board, line it up to clear the pin. Hold the punch at the same time and give a few wacks with the hammer. Hope things don't go flying and parts get lost.

Does that about cover it.:D
 
Maybe you can.

But let's see, Hold the slide on the board, line it up to clear the pin. Hold the punch at the same time and give a few wacks with the hammer. Hope things don't go flying and parts get lost.

Does that about cover it.:D
Not really. I put the slide on the table. Put the punch on the pin and taped it. On the other side I used pliers and pulled it out while holding the slide in my hand, thumb over the extractor.

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I may be overly cynical but I suspect the external extractor is a manufacturing cost saving move, not something designed to improve something.

The marketing guys have taken over from there.
 
Maybe you can.

But let's see, Hold the slide on the board, line it up to clear the pin. Hold the punch at the same time and give a few wacks with the hammer. Hope things don't go flying and parts get lost.

Does that about cover it.:D
That's it! But it works.
 
This topic always gets defenders on both sides. C'mon guys! They both work and a 1911 is still a 1911 even if it wasn't actually made in 1911.

I'm not knocking either but I have 2 Smith 1911's and a slew of Smith autos 1st, 2nd and 3rd gens all with external extractors. Never an extractor issue of any kind.

To the OP...my humble opinion is to base your decision on something other than the extractor.
 
Being a handloader, I like my autoloading handguns to eject their empty cases into a catch net I put on the bench beside the gun or attach to a tripod if I'm standing up. I have owned 1911s with internal extractors and by "tuning " (read: bending) them, I was able to accomplish that but every year or so, I had to "retune" them. My S&Ws with external extractors haven't needed any "tuning" - they just politely deposit their empties to the same spot every time.

I get the purists preferring the looks of the slide without the external extractor but I got over it after shooting my first S&W 1911.

Ed
 
Not a true 1911..........just sayin!

This type of thinking is a steaming pantload-the product of cranial rectal inversion.

Is the Ruger 10mm SR1911 with no barrel bushing and no staked plunger tube a real 1911??

Just thinkin!

Bruce
 
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I prefer the cleaner look of the internal extractor, however if the deal was right, I'd jump on any of the S&W 1911's
 
I have a Colt 1911 government .45. When I first got it it ejected everywhere. Back, straight up, in to the slide below the ejection port, one got me right below the eye. It wasn't tension but rather the contour of the end that pulls the empty case back to hit the ejector. It took me a couple times of filing and light sandpaper and for the last couple of years it ejects nice. I did not do anything to the ejector. There are like three places that really change the ejection pattern. It has never failed to eject a case but they were everywhere. Now I can stand in one place and pick up my spent brass without taking a step. The external extractor on my Glock 19 gen 5 also works great.
Peace,
Gordon
 
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