Factory repair - now heavy trigger pull

[Wfevans4]

I had my Model 19 repaired by S&W due to spitting lead and another separate issue. Now, the trigger pull is noticeably heavier. It feels so tight and heavy. The repair paper says:

Cut forcing cone
Adjust main spring weight
Repair yoke
Replace firing pin

Will the action smooth out over time by simply firing it or do you think I should mess with the main spring weight? Or get a trigger job?

 

[Yendor357]

Tight and heavy are not standard units of measure. They're an opinion. If you want to talk about trigger pull weight, first you will need to know the actual weight. Get a trigger pull gauge and give us some numbers. I'm sorry to be so crass.

Would you rather have a 357 that works every time with a 4 .5 pound trigger, or one with a 1.75 pound SA trigger?

There is a high probability that you 19 will get much smoother after thousands of dry firings.

Springs help a lot. Watch a few you tube vids. Smiths aren't hard to disassemble, and reassemble.

 

[robertrwalsh]

You can reasonably expect that, if you send a gun in for service, they will return it to factory specs if nothing else to cover their own tush. Irritating, but not surprising. It is completely possible they replaced the rebound spring and trigger spring in it.

 

[Wfevans4]

Some pulls are heavier than others. What causes that? 2/6 are very heavy. The other 4/6 I can live with.

 

[413Maxwedge]

Did you purchase the M19 new or used? Had you performed any "adjustments" to it, like loosening the strain screw? If you bought it used the light-feeling action may have been from 1000's of rounds breaking it in, OR from someone putting a new spring kit in it.

Many of the "Reduced Spring Weight Kits" like those from Apex Tactical and TKcustoms include a lighter or smoother mainspring, a lighter rebound spring and a longer firing pin. I point this out because...

The repair paper says:

Cut forcing cone
*Adjust main spring weight*
Repair yoke
*Replace firing pin*

If they opened it up and saw non-original parts I believe they would replace them with new, S&W factory parts (with a much heavier pull weight). I don't know why they'd replace your firing pin if it wasn't broken, which leads me to this thought.

 

[ken158]

You can reasonably expect that, if you send a gun in for service, they will return it to factory specs if nothing else to cover their own tush. Irritating, but not surprising. It is completely possible they replaced the rebound spring and trigger spring in it.

Yes, no doubt they brought your gun back to factory specs due to identifying aftermarket parts or a Bubba kitchen table smithing attempt. After all, guns are designed and expected to work properly when they leave the factory.

 

[Wfevans4]

I bought it brand new when they released the no lock Model 19s again just months ago. It was all factory parts.

 

[413Maxwedge]

I bought it brand new when they released the no lock Model 19s again just months ago. It was all factory parts.

Thank you for clarifying that. That helps the forum know what you're dealing with.
I don't claim to be an expert, but if the gun was spitting lead since new then it's a factory warranty issue. The fact that it is noticeably harder trigger pull now....
I don't know who's at fault but I'd contact S&W again. Tell them it's not spitting lead anymore but has a very noticeably heavier pull and your not happy with the work performed.

Maybe they can just give you another brand new gun. ??? Good luck.

 

[Yendor357]

Again, "noticeably harder" is not a standard unit of measure of measure. And just because someone is not thrilled with new revolver (that I speculate isn't even broken in) they bought, doesn't give them the right to pester the warranty dept of S&W.
And if they Smith away new guns to everyone who asked for one, they'd soon be out of business.

There are guns that have real problems. S&W needs the time to concentrate on those, without being distracted by people who aren't happy with something trivial.

 

[Yendor357]

Again, "noticeably harder" is not a standard unit of measure of measure. And just because someone is not thrilled with new revolver (that I speculate isn't even broken in) they bought, doesn't give them the right to pester the warranty dept of S&W.
And if they, Smith away new guns to everyone who asked for one, they'd soon be out of business.

There are guns that have real problems. S&W needs the time to concentrate on those, without being distracted by people who aren't happy with something trivial.

 

[mreed911]

You can reasonably expect that, if you send a gun in for service, they will return it to factory specs if nothing else to cover their own tush. Irritating, but not surprising. It is completely possible they replaced the rebound spring and trigger spring in it.

And fully tensioned the strain screw.

 

[mreed911]

Thank you for clarifying that. That helps the forum know what you're dealing with.
I don't claim to be an expert, but if the gun was spitting lead since new then it's a factory warranty issue. The fact that it is noticeably harder trigger pull now....
I don't know who's at fault but I'd contact S&W again. Tell them it's not spitting lead anymore but has a very noticeably heavier pull and your not happy with the work performed.

Maybe they can just give you another brand new gun. ??? Good luck.

For a subjectively heavy trigger likely at factory specs? LOL.

 

[Pisgah]

Having no history of the revolver, I would guess someone before you "improved" the trigger while they had it. Now, the factory folks have restored it to factory specs. You can probably lighten it up again if you like, but regardless of what you decide to do about it they probably did you a favor. Problems fixed and action reset to factory-new.

 

[Wfevans4]

Again, "noticeably harder" is not a standard unit of measure of measure. And just because someone is not thrilled with new revolver (that I speculate isn't even broken in) they bought, doesn't give them the right to pester the warranty dept of S&W.
And if they Smith away new guns to everyone who asked for one, they'd soon be out of business.

There are guns that have real problems. S&W needs the time to concentrate on those, without being distracted by people who aren't happy with something trivial.

I can tell you this. The black spec that shot out the side of the revolver left a scar on my left arm after I dug it out. I think that's worth pestering their warranty department.

 

[413Maxwedge]

I can tell you this. The black spec that shot out the side of the revolver left a scar on my left arm after I dug it out. I think that's worth pestering their warranty department.

You did the right thing sending it back.
The trigger pull being harder when they returned it is subjective though, so maybe/probably it just needs to break in.

 

[bigggbbruce]

I had my Model 19 repaired by S&W due to spitting lead and another separate issue. Now, the trigger pull is noticeably heavier. It feels so tight and heavy. The repair paper says:

Cut forcing cone
Adjust main spring weight
Repair yoke
Replace firing pin

Will the action smooth out over time by simply firing it or do you think I should mess with the main spring weight? Or get a trigger job?

Yes. You'll find that lots of people here do not actually read before they post.
"Spitting lead" indicates a timing issue and is definetely a factory warranty issue on a new gun (which you've explained yours is). You did the right thing sending it back.
The trigger pull being harder when they returned it is subjective though, so maybe/probably it just needs to break in.

Did you read the OP.

S&W cut the forcing cone. "Repair yoke" sounds like cylinder wasn't quite lined up with barrel.
I don't see where they corrected a timing issue.

 

[413Maxwedge]

Forgive me, I might have been presumptuous with "timing issue". I had a new-to-me L frame spitting lead to the man on my right. I replaced the cylinder with a new one and the problem stopped. I assumed the OP's lead spitting was a timing issue due to my own experience, and yes I glossed over the crane issue due to my own experience.

I'll go back and fix my post.