Fatal lion attack

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A woman was mauled by a mountain lion near Glen Haven Colorado around noon today.They weren’t able to save her despite one of them being a dr.Two lions in the area have been shot.Lions are known to be in the area and locals have lost several dogs to them in the last few months. This is about 5? Miles from Estes Park where I was around that time.Its not very far as the crow flies from where a lion killed a young boy several years ago.Spooky
 
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It's not just people moving into the areas were bigger wild animals exist.

It's bigger wild animals being introduced where there have been none for decades to hundreds of years.

It's people not having guns/hunting the animals to reduce the numbers/instill a fear of humans/guns/dogs.

As a kid we never saw deer on our side of the mountain from the "wilderness" on the other side. We never ever even thought about bears. There were no coyotes. I never saw a bobcat and only heard one squalling once. Foxes where the biggest wild animals regularly seen.

Now the deer jump the fence and come into the yard to eat the apples off the trees. Even bears climb over the fence and get into the apple trees when the apples are ripe in late summer/early fall. Before my dad died he'd seen mountain lion tracks (on the other side of that mountain.) He spent most of his life hunting those hills around the house and that was all small game hunting.

Now we can hear coyotes howling at night every so often.

It's not just us moving into their territory. It's us allowing them to move into our territory.

When I visit home these days I don't walk out of the house without a pistol on my hip. If I go out of the fenced yard I sometimes carry a rifle. I've never seen a thing I felt the need to shoot. And that's okay. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
 
it's interesting how folks for ages have moved into the Everglades and Bayou and haven't tried eradicating its natural wildlife; but, it seems that's what folks like to do in mountain regions... sheezzzz 😡
 
We have mountain lion, bear, {among other predators} that live in the area.
When out and about, its always me and my sidekicks, Smith & Wesson (y)
 
During my work week I live in a condo in the city, off weeks I live up on a rural mountain about 50 miles from the city, some 1,500 square miles of forests filled with all sorts of critters. I'm far more concerned about the wildlife in the city than I am up on the mountain.
 
Where I live there are mountain lions, bobcats, coyotes, bears, and an occasional wolf. I know of nobody who has ever been threatened or attacked by any of them. That doesn't mean they aren't dangerous. It just means they prefer the wild game, like deer and other animals. There are no stray dogs or cats around here. The ranchers lose some of their calves every year, mostly to bears. If the predators wanted to eat people, we would be very easy prey. I see their tracks and droppings frequently and have shot coyotes and a bobcat that were preying on my chickens. I once found the remains of a deer that had been killed by a lion about 50 yds from our clothesline in the back yard. All these animals get hunted around here and they are afraid of people and dogs.

What I worry about most with the wild animals here is when they get rabies. When that happens they no longer act like normal wild animals, and can become very dangerous. It's usually foxes, skunks, and bobcats that get rabies here, but I've heard of a rabid mountain lion biting a kid in nearby AZ. A neighbor (unarmed immigrant from CA) called the sheriff's office to report a rabid fox in their yard. The sheriff told him to shoot the damned thing ASAP before it bit somebody or spread the disease to other animals. When the neighbor replied they had no gun the sheriff told them to have a neighbor shoot it because it would take at least 45 minutes for a deputy to get there.
 
Lions turn up in my suburban neighborhood occasionally.One of my sisters saved her German Shepard from a lion a decade ago in Wyoming My other sister lives in the mountains and had a young lion follow her cat into the house about 5 years ago and make a mess of things. Her cat hid under the bed and lived .I've never seen one in the wild
 
Here the apex predators are increasing in population after hunting them with dogs was banned.
 
When people started migrating in large numbers to Colorado many of them started complaining about the "cruel" methods ranchers, farmers, and other folks were using to hunt and trap coyotes and got laws passed to eliminate certain types of hunting and trapping.
Several years later these same people were complaining about coyotes coming into their recently created suburban neighborhoods built on land formerly used for ranching and farming and going after their pet dogs and cats.
DUH! These people didn't understand how intelligent and adaptive coyotes are and that when the field mice, prairie dogs, and other natural prey they lived on were eliminated they'll go after whatever else is available and nice fat domesticated cats and dogs work nicely.
But a study I ran across several years ago indicated that the real danger to people and their pets in both rural and suburban areas aren't the natural predators that live in these areas but the rising number of individual and packs of loose dogs.
Some of the dogs observed and caught during the study were pets that got out of their yards or were allowed to run loose by careless owners but a large and increasing number were feral animals born wild.
The crossbreeding and ruthless elimination by nature of weak and flawed animals born in the wild are creating some very smart and vicious animals with little or no fear of humans.
So beware of loose dogs when out in the wild or around your neighborhood.
 
Roofuss said:
We have mountain lion, bear, {among other predators} that live in the area.
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And the big brown bears are expanding their territory.

When I lived south of Livingston they were never mentioned or even thought of.
A few years ago one killed an antler collector near there.

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And then you have those certain "others" who will always say..."But they were here first. We're encroaching on their land."
Sheeesh! Gimme a break.:mad:

Of course, just let their little yappy dog get eaten by some apex predator and they're the first to demand that the lion or the bear or the coyote, etc. be killed. Okay...rant over.
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Mule Packer said:
And then you have those certain "others" who will always say..."But they were here first. We're encroaching on their land."
Sheeesh! Gimme a break.:mad:

Of course, just let their little yappy dog get eaten by some apex predator and they're the first to demand that the lion or the bear or the coyote, etc. be killed. Okay...rant over.
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Mule Packer said:
And then you have those certain "others" who will always say..."But they were here first. We're encroaching on their land." This is how I feel about sharks. If you go into their territory and get eaten....good!!!! FA/FO at it's best.
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Rick
 
The town next door has had several mountain lion sightings (on surveillance cameras) right in the middle of town. Towns been there since 1829. This isn't no newly constructed subdivision, it's the first incorporated town west of the Rocky Mountains. Plenty of farmland and forest around the town. So, why is it in town? The food's easier to get. There are all kinds of cats and dogs in town. And sometimes their owners even fence them or chain them up, making it impossible for the pets to run away. Sometimes it ain't the people encroaching on the cat's territory, it's the other way around.
 
So sorry but I’m on the side of the lions tigers and bears. I am also sorry that this person died. This is an age old tragedy. We have lions here, very close at times and now wolves nearby. I’m sure my border collie is at risk but so be it. I am okay with the wildness
 
“When people started migrating in large numbers to Colorado many of them started complaining about the "cruel" methods ranchers, farmers, and other folks were using to hunt and trap coyotes and got laws passed to eliminate certain types of hunting and trapping.”


And then these very same yuppie bedwetters thought it would be a good idea to reintroduce wolves here. They have probably never ventured out of downtown Denver, for the most part.
 
There are scientists who believe that the spread of coyotes Is down to the human destruction of the wolf population. Pick which form of wild dog you prefer.;)

As for the predators having no fear of man, what do you expect with huge “no shoot” areas in around towns and cities. Wile E Coyote soon learns the most hassle he going to get is somebody yelling or banging a pan. BFD he says, and carries on with his business. 40 years ago he’d have got popped and nobody would have said boo about it.

It is arguable that banning hunting with dogs has meant that natural predators no longer associate the sound of dogs with bad news. Still, I find the whole concept of hunting with dogs questionable at best. You want to hunt a predator, take it on yourself.
 
Animals do what they do. Many years of no hunting with dogs is the culprit here. Simple. I have heard that if a cat is near you, all the other animals go quiet.
 
One must plan their activities and how they are done with the realities of the locale in mind. Don't go for an evening run in most cities (regardless of size). Don't mess around in areas with potentially dangerous wildlife if you are not aware of their conduct and how to respond. Do not wear earbuds outside your home for any reason.

Don't want your pets to be food for predators? Keep them inside and only walk them on a leash.

Cougar attacks are pretty rare; a healthy adult cat is not likely to want to interact with most people. One could suspect that this was a younger cat that was not doing well at hunting.
 
Doug M. said:
Cougar attacks are pretty rare; a healthy adult cat is not likely to want to interact with most people. One could suspect that this was a younger cat that was not doing well at hunting.
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Indications are the lion that attacked this unfortunate lady was an adolescent. A quick Google found this:

During a press conference on Monday, CPW said it euthanized two mountain lions found near the scene of the hiker's death. CPW said the two lions were a male and a female, believed to be siblings, that were around 12 months old and healthy. The agency said human DNA was found on all four paws of the male mountain lion, while no human DNA was found on the female lion.
https://www.denver7.com/news/local-...-lion-near-scene-of-recent-fatal-hiker-attack
 
Mule Packer said:
And then you have those certain "others" who will always say..."But they were here first. We're encroaching on their land."
Sheeesh! Gimme a break.:mad:

Of course, just let their little yappy dog get eaten by some apex predator and they're the first to demand that the lion or the bear or the coyote, etc. be killed. Okay...rant over.
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Whoa she’s got a better beard than him. That is hilarious
 
14daMoney said:
it's interesting how folks for ages have moved into the Everglades and Bayou and haven't tried eradicating its natural wildlife; but, it seems that's what folks like to do in mountain regions... sheezzzz 😡
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In the Everglades they are busy with the unnatural wildlife. Invasive pythons and iguanas…… Florida recently had it first bear hunt in a very long time. I believe about 30% of tags were filled. Which is really successful because they believe the anti’s were buying up permits
 
Being as how lions are mostly ambush hunters and the first sign your actually being attacked by a mountain lion would be having a lion on your back biting your neck a 22, a Glock or a500S&W probably wouldn't make much difference

I believe the only reason people sometimes survive actual attacks is because we walk upright and that os different than their normal prey so they mess it up. Think about it they kill a lot of deer. Humans are not anywhere near being as in as physically good shape and lb of lb as strong as deer

I have spend a lot of my life in lion country and haven't seen 5 of them despite seeing lots of tracks. In fact they see lion sign right here in town almost every year, but, then there are lots of deer here in town. We have made a great habitat for the deer, plenty of food, shelter and enforcing the leash laws nothing is chasing them so they are everywhere. Once in the while a lion comes along and sees an all you can eat cafe. Usually the lion moves on for reasons known only to itself. If they know one is around kids are advised to not to walk the areas with heavy growth. So far so good,
 
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