In regard to my Lexus comment, IF I were to spend that kind of money for a new SUV, it would be for one with proven reliability and made as a luxury vehicle. Not some dolled up Jeep.
FCA re-introduces the Grand Wagoneer
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In regard to my Lexus comment, IF I were to spend that kind of money for a new SUV, it would be for one with proven reliability and made as a luxury vehicle. Not some dolled up Jeep.
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JJEH
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Fair enough.
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Alright, so in case you are curious, I did get more info...
I was inquiring about the tow package and for that you'll need to select the premium package as it is not available in the standard configuration. This is stupid I thought because this brings the price up to $83,465 for a Wagoneer.
Attached was as price sheet which is not available online (why not?) and it explained it a little better.
Apparently they currently offer 12 pre-configured models. I believe these models are for all the pre-orders they have taken. To pre order you need to select a dealer, a configuration and pay $500. From then on the dealer will "deal" with you. Once they run out of those I believe we will get a regular online build and price feature, because the base price for the model I'm interested in is $70,995.
I find these prices outrageous but if you shop around at Chevrolet, GMC, Toyota, Lexus.... they all cost $70K+ (online MSRP) and it's ridiculous.
So based on that I don't think the Wagoneer is overpriced, but I'm not willing to go spend $83K plus $2K destination charge + TTL and end up with a $90K+ full size SUV. Sorry.
However, there are a few things that are nice:
- 24/7 Support and roadside assistance.
- No charge for equivalent loaner car.
- Trip interruption coverage.
- VIP access to select, exclusive Jeep brand events.
- 5 year worry free maintenance and tire rotations.
- Cleaning inside/outside plus full tank after every service.
- Pickup and delivery service for maintenance.
I can email you the .pdf if you like. Both the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer have great features and I'm certain they will dominate the SUV market.
But we've decided that we'll keep our 2018 RAM.... there's absolutely nothing wrong with it and we love driving it. We just wanted a full size SUV, but not for this price.
Perhaps in a year or two there will be good used ones... or dealer demos. Because if you ask me, the Wagoneer would be it. I loved the design ever since I saw it the first time. All the others are ugly
I was inquiring about the tow package and for that you'll need to select the premium package as it is not available in the standard configuration. This is stupid I thought because this brings the price up to $83,465 for a Wagoneer.
Attached was as price sheet which is not available online (why not?) and it explained it a little better.
Apparently they currently offer 12 pre-configured models. I believe these models are for all the pre-orders they have taken. To pre order you need to select a dealer, a configuration and pay $500. From then on the dealer will "deal" with you. Once they run out of those I believe we will get a regular online build and price feature, because the base price for the model I'm interested in is $70,995.
I find these prices outrageous but if you shop around at Chevrolet, GMC, Toyota, Lexus.... they all cost $70K+ (online MSRP) and it's ridiculous.
So based on that I don't think the Wagoneer is overpriced, but I'm not willing to go spend $83K plus $2K destination charge + TTL and end up with a $90K+ full size SUV. Sorry.
However, there are a few things that are nice:
- 24/7 Support and roadside assistance.
- No charge for equivalent loaner car.
- Trip interruption coverage.
- VIP access to select, exclusive Jeep brand events.
- 5 year worry free maintenance and tire rotations.
- Cleaning inside/outside plus full tank after every service.
- Pickup and delivery service for maintenance.
I can email you the .pdf if you like. Both the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer have great features and I'm certain they will dominate the SUV market.
But we've decided that we'll keep our 2018 RAM.... there's absolutely nothing wrong with it and we love driving it. We just wanted a full size SUV, but not for this price.
Perhaps in a year or two there will be good used ones... or dealer demos. Because if you ask me, the Wagoneer would be it. I loved the design ever since I saw it the first time. All the others are ugly
90k is half a house in NEPA.
Why on God's green earth would anyone spend that kind of bread on something that depreciates the minute you drive it off the lot is beyond me.
Why on God's green earth would anyone spend that kind of bread on something that depreciates the minute you drive it off the lot is beyond me.
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Just to have something most other people don't.
Both the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer have great features and I'm certain they will dominate the SUV market.
I won't be holding my breathe to see that happen
I won't be holding my breathe to see that happen
bigwheelzip
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Perhaps in a year or two there will be good used ones... or dealer demos. Because if you ask me, the Wagoneer would be it. I loved the design ever since I saw it the first time. All the others are ugly
Good luck with your hunt, and let us know if you bag one.
Our neighbor in NY had one of the originals forever. A great vehicle. Hopefully the new ones are just as good.
A little off topic, but I took my weekly trip to the big city (almost 11,000 people ) today for groceries, it's amazing to me how many Wranglers are on the road. It's about an hour round trip, and I must have seen about ten of the things.
) today for groceries, it's amazing to me how many Wranglers are on the road. It's about an hour round trip, and I must have seen about ten of the things.
The Norseman
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Not a Horse drawn Wagon
Thank you for the Jeep Wagoneer Update. Great Company,
Great Vehicles, and Great Competitive Spirit.
Back in the 1990’s I rented a Cherokee, one of the worst
ideas ever, and would never consider the Jeep Brand.
Jump to 2017, needed a SUV. With test driving and research
I got a Cherokee. Wow they have come a long way.
Four trouble free years, very nice long distance ride, plenty of
Horse power to pass, high Gas mileage, and interior is not
Black.
Unfortunately I don’t see the Wagoneer in my conservative
Future.
Thank you for the Jeep Wagoneer Update. Great Company,
Great Vehicles, and Great Competitive Spirit.
Back in the 1990’s I rented a Cherokee, one of the worst
ideas ever, and would never consider the Jeep Brand.
Jump to 2017, needed a SUV. With test driving and research
I got a Cherokee. Wow they have come a long way.
Four trouble free years, very nice long distance ride, plenty of
Horse power to pass, high Gas mileage, and interior is not
Black.
Unfortunately I don’t see the Wagoneer in my conservative
Future.
Hard to imagine that Mercedes is the value brand in comparison!
I had a '73 Jeep Commando and a '83 Grand Wagoneer. Both were pretty good vehicles. The GW had a 360 engine and would go anywhere, but it couldn't pass a gas station without stopping. 12 MPG and it only drank GOOD premium gasoline.
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My granddad had a Mercedes, a W114 200D (/8) and I started my mechanic apprenticeship there.
They had a good reputation then, good products, great service and set the benchmark.
Later in my career we would get great feedback by many customers, despite being involved in one of the biggest recall efforts ever.
Now it seems to me they are chasing the market instead of the market chasing them.
Too many new edge models, too many gimmicks and too many "we want to be hip" features find their way into those cars, driving up price but not quality.
I'm a little bit disappointed actually, not that they care. But they have lost this classic, sophisticated styling that they once had as well as the timeless elegance they once portrayed.
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Jeep has devoured every car manufacturer that has ever owned them. I expect that to continue.
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Well, I was wrong. Build and price is online.
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Beautiful vehicle...
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Beautiful vehicle...
A lot of their problems began in the early 2000's, when they bought Chrysler and started cutting corners. Now there isn't really anything that distinguishes them from any other car. I do like my GLK though. I took it in for service last week, got a GLC (its replacement) as a loaner. I didn't like it. It is the generic jellybean shape and they replaced the 3.5 V6 with a gutless 2.0 4 banger.
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I don't like these crossovers, what I really miss is station wagons. Those are great. Unfortunately Mercedes only offers the E class as station wagon in the States and only as "All Terrain Wagon" and C63. I believe they even canceled the AMG version... this is nuts. No one but imports offers a true station wagon.
Anyway, here's a video on the Grand Wagoneer. I stand with what I've said; it's an absolute beautiful vehicle and if I could only have one vehicle this would be it.
But again, I'm not willing to drop such money on a family SUV. The Wagoneer with 4x4 and tow package would cost me about $85K and that's $25K more than I'm willing to spend. For $60K I'd pull the trigger. And if you consider the added $2K destination charge and TTL it's still too much.
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CAJUNLAWYER
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What kind of mileage did you get with that Allis Chalmers HD11????? I bet that thing had some low end towing torque!!!
