firing pin for mid 1800's Parlor gun

[foxtail]

Reposting

I lost the firing pin from my parlor gun. It mounts in a small hole held by a set screw. See pics. Anyone have a source to replace the pin? I do not have a Make or Model. It shoots CB 22's

 

[bigwheelzip]

Did a little digging and saw a few similar, but not exactly like it. So establishing the brand as a first step in the search didn't happen.
Didn't see any sources for parts for that type of gun, though some non working parlor guns were being sold as parts guns.

You might have proof marks that may help with identification.

This one from an old auction reminds me of yours a little, but they don't know what it is either.
German made 4mm parlor gun/awesome For Sale at GunAuction.com - 8119461

More than one person has said the US CB22's are more powerful than the primer-only European ones that the guns were designed for, and shouldn't be used.

The square butt and lifting block action (Warnant action) seem to be more rare.

Five years ago, someone in a forum looking for parts for their Flobert parlor gun was directed to:
Jack First Gun Parts



There seems to be some Flobert knowledgeable folks on the antique firearms collectors forums. Even some with spare parts to share.

Didn't find your part, but enjoyed learning some of the history of it.
Interesting little piece. Good luck in your search.

 

[deadin]

Without the gun in hand, it looks like a fairly simple task to reverse engineer a firing pin for it.
You know what it does, you have the hole(s) it has to fit in and what holds it in place.
As for finding an original part..........no idea.

(If you do find one, run out and buy a lottery ticket..)

 

[Andyd]

Foxtail,

it appears to be German Flobert Target pistol. If you can find proof marks or maker marks it could help to find parts for it.
I think that deadin is giving good advice to make your own firing pin for it. These inexpensive parlour guns were manufactured by many small companies, mostly around Suhl and Zella Mehlis and any parts sources have long been exhausted.

I just did a quick search for Flobert Scheibenpistole Ersatzteile to no avail.

 

[Drm50]

Take a drill bit that is same size as FP. You can use drill for a lathe
or put in drill press. Use the shank end to make FP. Use file to
work down pin portion, leaving it longer than necessary, to be
adjusted for length after the notch for set screw is filed. When
fit, heat with propane torch and drop it oil to harden.

 

[DWalt]

I have made up my own firing pins for oddball guns on several occasions. This is probably one of simple design which should not be too difficult to make. Hardening involves more than just heating and quenching. First, low carbon steels won't harden. Second, those steels which will harden can become very brittle if the only treatment is simple heating and quenching. I wouldn't worry too much about heat treatment in this application.

BTW - I notice the local Wal Mart had LOTS of CCI .22 Short CB on their shelves yesterday, I think $6.91/100 round box.

 

[Drm50]

Drill bits are high carbon, unless you buy them at the Dollar store. I save all my broken bits to make pins and FPs. I also have
assortment of HC drill rod for same purposes. I have found on
small parts, that if you heat to dull red and quench in motor oil
it will harden, but not to point of brittle. If you don't harden for
a hammer gun, the back of the pin will start to mushroom. You
can make a firing pin out of a spike nail, but it won't last to long
and doesn't have enough carbon to harden. The protrusion of
the pin is most important part, to much length and it will ding
the chamber, not enough and you will have a lot of misfires.
If you buy drill rod, some brands have a chart on package that
gives you the various hardenings, by the color of the metal when
heated, and quenching method.

 

[foxtail]

Thanks for all the help. I will attempt to make my own pin.