First Range Trip with New Bodyguard 2.0

200 flawless rds. so far.
Took the plunge and bought a set of 380 dies.
You won't regret it. I use either PRN or FMJ, usually from Everglades(always free shipping), sometimes from Berrys, and Bullseye....which is apparently out of production. :(
You'll save enough money, especially compared to how cheap 9s are, to be worth loading .380s.
Moon
 
Im a lefty…just picked one up. Shot left for sure. Drifted the sights and it helped some. No issues with several types of fmj and hollow points. Fun little gun. Could not fit 12 rounds in fresh mag initially, but now it is fine. Picked up another 12 rounder and same thing. My only real complaint so far is the huge notch in rear sight…makes it tough for real precise shots, so an aftermarket is probably in my future. Overall i call the gun a win.
 
"I still can't get 12 rds. in the 12 rd. mag., even using an UpLULA, but that's not a big issue to me. I suspect it will loosen up with use."

After 10 months I still cannot get 12 in the 12-round mag or 10 in the 10-round mag.

I'm waiting for MagGuts to release their +2 kit. :)
I found you have to use a good mag loader and just keep pushing & releasing and it will work.
 
I found you have to use a good mag loader and just keep pushing & releasing and it will work.
A big stinkin' hammer will scarcely get the advertised into these magazines, let alone leave enough room to lock them in against a closed slide. There is a tolerance issue in these magazines, either in the spring or the follower, that Smith has chosen not to notice. Even newer mags display this issue. Oddly, a couple of mine hold 10, and lock in with room to spare. Weird.
Moon
 
A big stinkin' hammer will scarcely get the advertised into these magazines, let alone leave enough room to lock them in against a closed slide. There is a tolerance issue in these magazines, either in the spring or the follower, that Smith has chosen not to notice. Even newer mags display this issue. Oddly, a couple of mine hold 10, and lock in with room to spare. Weird.
Moon
I agree. Since August of 2024, I still cannot get a full mag (10 or 12) loaded with my UpLULA.

How difficult is it for a firearm manufacturer, like Smith & Wesson or Sig Sauer, to design, test, and manufacturer an extremely simple device like a semi-auto magazine???

I'm still waiting for MagGuts to release a +2 kit!:)
 
How difficult is it for a firearm manufacturer, like Smith & Wesson or Sig Sauer, to design, test, and manufacturer an extremely simple device like a semi-auto magazine???
It's probably one reason mfgs job out magazines to Okay, MecGar or one of the others. Maybe that's where the problem comes in, communicating the issue to the jobber. As mentioned, a few of my mags will hold the advertised, with enough room to lock into the gun against a closed slide. Others simply won't lock in, and I refuse to get too medieval inserting it.
The good news, the mags all run just fine, but sometimes the backup mag only has 9 rounds, and never top off the one in the gun.
Moon
 
I posted this in another thread...

Update on MagGuts:

I received a reply from MagGuts on my question about a +2 kit for my BG2 magazines.

"No updates on that one yet. I made sure you are on the notification list. Apologies for the wait."

Apparently MagGuts missed this:

"Smith & Wesson is proud to receive the '2024 Handgun of the Year Award' for the Bodyguard 2.0 from our partners at Outdoor Sportsman Group and Guns & Ammo"
 
A big stinkin' hammer will scarcely get the advertised into these magazines, let alone leave enough room to lock them in against a closed slide. There is a tolerance issue in these magazines, either in the spring or the follower, that Smith has chosen not to notice. Even newer mags display this issue. Oddly, a couple of mine hold 10, and lock in with room to spare. Weird.
Moon

After shooting a couple 100 rds. with it and leaving it loaded for about a month, I can finally get 12 into my 12 rd. mag without using an Uplula. However, INSERTING that fully loaded 12 rd. mag with the slide forward is a different story. For now, I am cheerfully loading my 12 rd. mag with 12 and inserting it with the slide locked open.

Since I plan to carry it with the 10 rd. inserted and the 12 as a reload, I'm happy even if the 12 does not loosen up any more than it already has. Btw, I do carry the 10 rd. mag with 9 in it (and 1 in the chamber), but that's simply because based on decades of experience I load all my mags to -1; ARs and AKs to -2. Please note: I am not saying that is necessary. I'm only saying that it is what works best for me.
 
When did they start making mag capacity claims as a marketing ploy? I've got almost half a century on this planet, fired, been issued, and own several different models of Smith & Wesson pistol, and I have yet to see one that didn't hold the number of rounds in the magazine that it was advertised to hold.
When the 365 came out it was ALL about capacity, so that's when they started to care about capacity for marketing. I remember people making a big deal that the Hellcat, which came out after the 365 and its 10 round flush fit mag, held 11 rounds!
 
Since I plan to carry it with the 10 rd. inserted and the 12 as a reload,
My thought is that the backup mag may be inserted while the slide is closed; arbitrarily, if you shoot 6 or 7 rounds, get behind something solid, and want a full mag in the gun. Some of my 10 round mags are extremely difficult to lock in against a closed slide, others are not. I'll download the difficult, spare mag by one round, so there is no drama in locking it in. If you've been unlucky enough to get in a gunfight using a pocket pistol, the last thing you need is a hassle with a reload.
I'm not going to get into the need for an extra magazine; just like the gun itself, I'd rather have it, and not need it.
When the 365 came out it was ALL about capacity, so that's when they started to care about capacity for marketing.
Exactly right. If Smith is claiming their mags hold 10 or 12, and still lock into the gun, then they should. But the BG2.0 is so good, I'll take it as it is. But I am hoping Smith addresses the issue sometime.
Moon
 
Had a bit of a scare other day. Popping off rds at the range and for the first time after hundreds of rds fired it jammed. Thought I was beyond those feeding issues wtf! Then after I got the rd out saw it wasn't a S&B but my BG's arch nemesis
- Fiocchi! (See my earlier post) Seems sometime in the past I mixed in a few into the open S&B box pre BG days and didn't notice when loading the mags which btw load fine. So weird how the gun will not feed Fiocchi fmj.
 
I reload .380, simply to have cheaper practice anno. Glad you like it. There are some other people on the forum looking at those. Oh, is the magazine supposed to hold 12 or is 11 in the mag and one in the chamber???
It's 10 + 1 and 12 + 1. I can get both mags full but it takes a lot of force. Maybe my hands are stronger from loading so many mags over the years lol. But yeah out of the box they are stiff and some can't do it at all any many struggle to do it. They will loosen up over time. I would rather have a good strong spring to be honest.
 
Had a bit of a scare other day. Popping off rds at the range and for the first time after hundreds of rds fired it jammed. Thought I was beyond those feeding issues wtf! Then after I got the rd out saw it wasn't a S&B but my BG's arch nemesis
- Fiocchi! (See my earlier post) Seems sometime in the past I mixed in a few into the open S&B box pre BG days and didn't notice when loading the mags which btw load fine. So weird how the gun will not feed Fiocchi fmj.
I'm just curious... why do so many new BG2 gun owners so often try to shoot Fiochhi ammo?
There are hundreds of posts describing issues with that ammo.
There is a good list of options for every style of bullet you can select for practice and for defense carry that work fine.
Is there something about the Fiochhi brand that I'm missing?:unsure:
 
Because their idea of doing research is posting a question instead of doing a search. I get a kick when they post their question right above a thread with the same question. Why put any effort out when others will do it for you.
 
I reload .380, simply to have cheaper practice anno. Glad you like it. There are some other people on the forum looking at those. Oh, is the magazine supposed to hold 12 or is 11 in the mag and one in the chamber???
I reload my 380 ammo for my BG 2.0 but I have never seen a semi auto spread the brass in all directions. I shoot only on our indoor range so I can find all my brass after shooting. I can stand in one position and it still goes all over.
 
I reload my 380 ammo for my BG 2.0 but I have never seen a semi auto spread the brass in all directions. I shoot only on our indoor range so I can find all my brass after shooting. I can stand in one position and it still goes all over.
I noticed that casings do fly all over when I shoot my BG2.
Could that be caused by striker drag?
 

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I'm just curious... why do so many new BG2 gun owners so often try to shoot Fiochhi ammo?
There are hundreds of posts describing issues with that ammo.
There is a good list of options for every style of bullet you can select for practice and for defense carry that work fine.
Is there something about the Fiochhi brand that I'm missing?:unsure:
Because I already own a bunch of 380 Fiocchi for my lcp2 and have had zero issues with it or in any other caliber. And sop for myself is to run all types of ammo thru any new gun to know its strong and weak points, dependable ammo being part of that. That's why.
 
Because I already own a bunch of 380 Fiocchi for my lcp2 and have had zero issues with it or in any other caliber. And sop for myself is to run all types of ammo thru any new gun to know its strong and weak points, dependable ammo being part of that. That's why.
Yes, having an existing inventory to use is good reason to try it.
I see Fiocchi is a very high quality brand.
Is there something unusual about it's design/primer/powder or physical dimensions that causes the BG2 to have a problem?
Over the past 40+ years of buying ammo, I've never purchased Fiocchi, and I don't know why.
 
I don't see a need to do this. It is only a "12 round magazine" because Smith says so. And that is clearly not true. Many have reported that they either could not get 12 rounds in or if they did it affected the function of the pistol. Some even have trouble with 11 rounds. I consider this to be a 10 round magazine. It loads 10 rounds easily and the function of the pistol is not affected.

Smith makes claims for magazine capacity as a marketing ploy. That should not affect how you use your pistol.
My 12 round mag hoods 12, my 10 round mags hold 10.
 

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