First Time at the Range

[E2EK1E7]

I just picked up my 15-22 from Big 5 (unfortunatley). And shot it at the range and got a lot of FTE's a couple were the brass didnt eject and the next round pushed it up and it got stuck and the others were Stove pipes I believe thats what its called.

Any suggestions? Ow and I the Serial is DUU and I have the Blue Spring.

Thanks for your help in Advance!

*UPDATE*

Thanks for all the suggestions for helping with the FTE's

After many different solutions I have found that after giving a very good cleaning and fixing the ejector. However not like in the youtube video. I have found that the problem with the ejector is the I actually had to bend the ejector up towards the top of the gun and not inwards. I suggest that if you are having any FTE take a look at this issue.

After spending all day at the range and shooting very close to 1K if not more and not a single FTE and shooting all kinds of ammo Win. Federal and CCI Mini Mags. The only problem that I face now is FTFeed and i only got this maybe 4 times. I dont know what this is from but it actually bent the round in half.

So thanks to all for offering suggestions and now I will not have to send in to S&W and the gun is great and im loving it.

 

[PainterlyShotgroup]

What kind of ammunition were you using? And it might not have anything to do with it but were the rounds staggering properly in the magazine?

 

[E6type]

Try the basics first:

1. Make sure the gun is clean.

2. Make sure that the rounds are staggered properly in the magazine.

3. Do not use the magazine as a support while firing.

4. Make sure your fingers do not interfere with the load assist buttons on the magazine while firing.

5. Use only recommended ammo.

 

[Citoriplus]

First suggestion would be to watch very carefully how your loading the mags.
If you accidentally get the rim of the shell behind the one below it, it will do something like what you describe.
The second suggestion would be to take it apart and thoroughly clean it out.
A lot of guys have reported that the lube they are shipped with seems to make it function poorly.
But once cleaned up and oiled properly they operated much better.
Last would be to do the above and just shoot the pants off it.
Most semi auto's, especially .22's seem to need a bit of break in time.
So watch your mag loading, clean things up and have some more fun.

 

[E2EK1E7]

What kind of ammunition were you using? And it might not have anything to do with it but were the rounds staggering properly in the magazine?

I was using Federal Bulk and I actually had less FTE's with Winchester X 100 pack I bought.

Thanks for the input from what im hearing is clean and lube.

Sorry im new to this but clean and lube everything?

 

[MMA_FAN]

I also bought my rifle from Big5 because it was on sale for $469. A 15-22 is a 15-22, doesn't make a difference where you buy it. They all come from the S&W factory with the same S&W reputation.

When I bought mine the first thing I did was take it home and field strip it. I put a bore snake through it and used CLP to clean and lube the bolt and every other moving part in the rifle. This is a must do with all fire arms you purchase in my opinion. These rifles are not like the AK-47 where you can bury the rifle in your yard until next summer and dig it up to have it shoot fine. This rifles like the AR-15's like to be shot wet so to speak. Well lubed and clean. After you give it a good bath and go through this check list.

Try the basics first:

1. Make sure the gun is clean.

2. Make sure that the rounds are staggered properly in the magazine.

3. Do not use the magazine as a support while firing.

4. Make sure your fingers do not interfere with the load assist buttons on the magazine while firing.

5. Use only recommended ammo.

If it still does not function properly. You may want to send it back to S&W. See if there is anything they can do.

Again, I bought mine at a Big5 and I have put over 1500 rounds through it in the almost 2 weeks I have had it. I had 1 jam and it was due to my failure to load the mag correctly. Since then it has been flawless. The bolt holds on every last round and spits out every thing I put in it.

Good luck to you and let us know how it turns out.

 

[BELT_FED]

and get some cci mini mags to run the first 200 rds if they wont run after a good cleaning then you know you have problems

 

[adn]

I agree with BeltFed; start by running a hotter round through the rifle which will help "smooth out" any rough edges left in the metal contact surfaces such as those between the bolt and the rails. CCI MiniMags are great. Also make sure your ejector is correctly aligned with the bolt. It takes very little to get it out of alignment and that can also cause FTEs.
YouTube - Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 Ejector (Extractor) Fix

 

[E2EK1E7]

Ok thanks again for your guys input.

So I cleaned out my gun and lubed it up on Sat. Took it to the range and probably put about 300 Rounds of Federal and CCI blazer. I got several FTE's with the federal and a couple with the CCI and that is with staggering the rounds in the mag.

So after that Once again I Cleaned the gun and lubed even more.

I just got back from the range and I probably put close to 700 rounds and I only got 8 FTE's and I was using only CCI Blazers.

So i have come to the conclusion that my 15-22 does not like Federal bulk. Maybe because of the mini hollow point not quite sure.

Any other ideas are welcome.

 

[Triggs75]

8 is still 8 too many in my opinion. Have you tried another mag or do you have just one. Other then that, I would prob send it back for a tune up.

Chad

 

[E2EK1E7]

8 is still 8 too many in my opinion. Have you tried another mag or do you have just one. Other then that, I would prob send it back for a tune up.

Chad

Is 8 too man out or 700?

And I was using 4 mags 2 10's and 2 25's but the 25's were. Only filled 10 though.

 

[Jswiney9]

could have just been 8 bad rounds but who knows. try different ammo and report bck.

 

[E2EK1E7]

could have just been 8 bad rounds but who knows. try different ammo and report bck.

What other ammo is good that I should use I only hear about federal and cci

 

[Jswiney9]

ive come to learn from experience on here that every one of these guns is different. some shoot win, some shoot fed, some shoot cci, some shoot everything (excpet remington gold haha) I really dont think that a lot of these hoodoo methods of proper "methods" holding your tongue right while balancing on one big toe make a bit of difference. there is just so much descrepency in .22 ammo its hard to find a good round. go buy a box of mini mags (cci) shoot those threw it and if you dont have a problem you know its the ammo choice. the blazer ammo is pretty dirty and these are delicate guns. if its NOT the ammo and it still jams number your mags and if you only have a problem out of a certain mag send it back. if its all mags and all ammo send it in to S&W and let them deal with it. other than that i dont know what to tell you really, just a delicate platform and it needs the right ammo. my cousins gun was sent back to factory for "updating" and still wont shoot winchester 333. my sig ate them up like pez except the few rounds that just didnt go bang.

 

[E2EK1E7]

Update.

So i appreciate the help from everbody and their imput.

However just got back from the range I bought some Winchester 333 cause i never ran that through my gun and bought Some More federal hoping there was a miracle and fixed its self.

Well after numbering the Mags and shooting close to 500 between the two i got and average of 1 FTE per mag.

So needless to say that I am very frustated now.

Blazers are the best but would like to be able to run more than one ammo through this.

 

[JTF]

I suggest you contact S&W. I have had mine for just a week, and in two range sessions ran 525 blazer rounds through it without a single failure of any kind. Combination of single shot, 3, 5, 10 rapid fire, along with one full mag clearing rapid fire just for the sheer fun of it.

I did field strip, clean and lube it before the very first shot, and again between sessions.

 

[E2EK1E7]

updated 1st post

 

[antifederalist22]

You are probably already doing this, but I figured I would throw this out there as other have already: when loading the mags, pay close attention to the rear inside wall where the round sits, there is a channel for the casing rim to ride in that if the rounds are properly seated in this channel they will stagger properly and cycle more smoothly. If some of the rounds are not staggered properly you could get a FTE or FTF due to the mag misfeeding the next round in the stack.

 

[Hobie1]

FTfire,FTfeed,FTeject

I'm a bit confused. You'll get FTfeed when mis-loading the mags, FTFire if bad ammo, FTeject if the ejector hook isn't right. The gun will eject a round without the mag. being in the gun, so I don't see the connection to a mag. problem. You say you had to adjust the ejector hook but it didn't fix the problem. Is the hook solid or does it wiggle a bit?
Just curious. Hope you get it sorted out soon. I've been fortunate to own 2 flawless ones. Pistol and it's big brother. I just got the Performance Center model but haven't shot it yet. Today might be the day.
Hobie

 

[E2EK1E7]

Hobie
I fixed the FTE issue by adjusting the Ejector Hook and it was old and doesnt wiggle.

But just recently I got 3 Fail to Feed where the round was bent in half by the Bolt. Again not sure how that happend, but I got off 1K rounds this weekend with no FTE's so now I am a happy camper.

Just incase anyone else was having this problem I was offering what I did as a solution.