FOR CCW IS M&P SHIELD BETTER THAN M&P COMPACT 9MM?

thanks everybody for chiming in and it has been a huge help. I think I do got the "Grass is greener" syndrome...lol....but the shield also has a better trigger as Smith and Wesson admitted and after asking them why they don't make it for the MP compact, they said they are kicking it around but afraid if they do, then they will have every owner wanting to send their existing one in as a recall. They made that trigger that way because of Law enforcement officers wanted it that way. anyway I do think and agree most gun fights are over in a few shots so maybe I will pick up a shield.

My compact is older and I purchased it used. However the trigger on my compact is definitely nicer then my shield. Id recommend shooting the shield first and holding it to see if it would be something ud like to carry

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good advice

My compact is older and I purchased it used. However the trigger on my compact is definitely nicer then my shield. Id recommend shooting the shield first and holding it to see if it would be something ud like to carry


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Yer right about that. I will rent the shield first to see how that shoots before buying
 
If you're like me you'll have to buy the Shield after shooting it. I was hooked after only the 5 shots I was allowed at a Smith and Wesson range demo event. I got 5 shots with a FS M&P 9 and 5 with the Shield. I had to buy the Shield even though I had no intention of buying another 9mm. I rented a 40 Shield and 9mm Shield after that, and bought the 9mm.
 
Others may have said it but the more you shoot the compact, the better that trigger will feel. I shot a well broken in FS and it was great. I do, however, have the apex dcaek in my compact and love it so I would highly recommend that to you... Good luck, can't go wrong with an m&p
 
OP - I'm sort of just the opposite of what you're thinking - I think?

I carry a Smith Model 36 38 spl snub - 5 rounds and I am very comfortable with that - for me 5 rounds is enough - it's about shot placement. Prior to that, I carried a Ruger LCR - still 5 shot.

Mind you . . . I carry on the belt and cover with a shirt tail or jacket - both in AZ and in MI. I'm not comfortable carrying in the waist band, etc.

I also have a Ruger SR9 - I don't know how it compares to the M & P Compact but it's a double stack high capacity mag. At the time I purchased it, I also looked at the SR9c - to me, both would carry about the same even though the SR9 was a little larger. About the only time I carry that is when we are going to be in the boonies in AZ as we are only 40 miles north of the border and a lot of **** can happen down there. That's the reason I wanted something with capacity.

Now, even though I love my Model 36 snub, I'm planning on getting a Shield to carry on a rotating basis with the 36. I like 9mm - reload it - and the Shield size just seems to sort of fit in with the J frame but "flatter" than the 36 with a cylinder. For my purposes, I'm also very comfortable with 7 rounds (and I always carry a spare mag or a spare speed loader). I like the features of the Shield and what I'm hearing about it.

What it boils down to is what you are comfortable with and how you carry. If you have a revolver in mind (or several) - I'd try to lay them all side by side with a Shield as well as your Compact and compare feel, size and think about how you carry. Then make your decision.

Personally, I'm pretty much a "revolver guy" (I'm old, what can I say?) but I have also realized that I like my SR9 and would like to have something "smaller" in a semi to carry as well. I have looked at a lot of different brands and models - and for me, I keep coming back to the Shield.

Good luck in your quest and you'll find what fits your needs best.
 
About the only time I carry that is when we are going to be in the boonies in AZ as we are only 40 miles north of the border and a lot of **** can happen down there. That's the reason I wanted something with capacity.

Also about 40 mi. north of the border so we're obviously in the same area.

I, too have a revolver that I like, namely the Model 60 in S/S and going through the same choice as I sit and await the CCW for which I sent the completed paperwork in a week ago. It'll be interesting to see what we come up with. :rolleyes:
 
If you want a simple and cheap trigger upgrade for your compact install a m&p pro trigger group. These can be fairly easy to come by if you ask around at any idpa or similar shooting competition. If you go to a match bring a holster and three mags and shoot the match, they are a blast.

The pro trigger group in a compact eliminates most if not all of the grittiness. The pull weight is still near 4.5-5.5 pounds which is perfect for a carry gun in my opinion. Unfortunately there will still be abit of creep and over travel before and after the break but that's why so many idpa guys dump the pro trigger groups in the first place. After doing this mod I can't believe I never heard on here or else where of other doing it. I had the pro trigger group lying around so it was free for me. Just a thought.
 
Personally my M&P40c fits my hand much better than the Shield. But here's a totally different thought to consider. Is your 9c reliable, & trouble free. If it is, I'd say save your cash, & keep what works for you. I read on this forum & others about Shields that have to go back to S&W to be repaired because they are cranking them out at 100% capacity, which causes quality to be poor. My 40c is about 5 years old, & is reliable. My brothers Shield was made when they first came out before they were so popular, so it has no problems. My advice is keep what you got, because a new Shield is a roll of the dice. GARY
 
I rented both a 9c and a Shield and shot the Shield first and found it harder to hold due to my long fingers. I went with the 9c and do not have any problem with it. I do not have a CCW permit yet so I have not tried different carry options .
 
The Shield is MUCH more comfortable to carry over a thicker gun like the M&P 9C. If I'm not mistaken, the 9C is about the same thickness as my G19, which I could never carry comfortably IWB, even with a good hybrid holster. Once I switched over to the thin Shield, I've had no issues. I just use an inexpensive single clip IWB holster at 4:00 and it works great.

I can't do more than guess on the thickness of the 9C as I haven't been able to find anything that states what the width of the gun is, even on the S&W site...
 
i have a 40c, purchased in january of 2013, that i carried every time that i left the house. i started with an owb holster at about 4:00 an used that until it printed too much in nicer weather. then i purchased a pocket holster for it. i carried in my front right pocket until i bought my wife a shield 9 a little over a month ago. after shooting it, i did a test of sorts. i carried both while running errands one day. i started with my 40c, then since my running around took me right passed my home, i stopped and switched for the shield. there was a world of difference the "only 3 oz" was the most notable, with the thinness a close second. within 2 weeks i had purchased a shield 40 for myself. after shooting both, my wife liked the shield 40 better as her grouping tightened up a lot so i have the 9 and she carries the 40.
 
I think that one will come down to personal preference. I compared the two side by side and found the compact grip to be uncomfortably short so, I went with the Shield and couldn't be happier. It's slim, easy to conceal and even with the lighter, smaller frame, it doesn't seem to have any more felt recoil than my M&P full size.
 
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The Shield is MUCH more comfortable to carry over a thicker gun like the M&P 9C. If I'm not mistaken, the 9C is about the same thickness as my G19, which I could never carry comfortably IWB, even with a good hybrid holster. Once I switched over to the thin Shield, I've had no issues. I just use an inexpensive single clip IWB holster at 4:00 and it works great.

I can't do more than guess on the thickness of the 9C as I haven't been able to find anything that states what the width of the gun is, even on the S&W site...

I think I read somewhere it is like .95 as far as thickness. The shield is only 3 ounces lighter than 9c but the real difference is thinness.
 
preference

I think that one will come down to personal preference. I compared the two side by side and found the compact grip to be uncomfortably short so, I went with the Shield and couldn't be happier. It's slim, easy to conceal and even with the lighter, smaller frame, it doesn't seem to have any more felt recoil than my M&P full size.

I do prefer the shield for maximum comfort but only having 7 to 8 rounds and been told you should never put the maximum amount, that basically means 6 and7. At that point, I rather carry a .357 snub and put 38+ps. Comfort nothing beats a J frame. The 9c is not comfortable but it does not print when I put it in a belly band and it is right under my arm pit and the 12 round mag really makes it worthwhile. I know most encounters end in 3 shots but stilll
 
I do prefer the shield for maximum comfort but only having 7 to 8 rounds and been told you should never put the maximum amount, that basically means 6 and7.


Are you talking because of spring tension? It's hard to load?

This baffles me a little.

First, the best way to relieve it is to go train with it so the spring gets softened by cycling it... and you get as used to the gun as you should.

Second... buy the UPLULA for loading the magazine. Best twenty whatever dollars you will spend.


If it's because it's hard to load until the springs soften, then load your gun full because you are not under pressure and have time to make sure it's right.

Also, you know... carrying maximum capacity in your carry gun is where you will most likely need it. Not carrying at full capacity makes no sense.

Then drop a round from your second magazine if you are worried about slamming it home under pressure because better you can consistently reload first time than have one less round to use.




Also... most encounters don't end in three shots. That's the average taken from numbers that are hard to compile accurately. If they are accurate, that could be thousands of encounters that end with zero shots and one that ends with three. Conversely, it could be any number of encounters ending with anything up to 30 shots that happen to end in three.

It could also be that most people train to shoot three shots at a time and that's what they do under pressure because they have been told three is the average. A self fulfilling prophesy... but how many people don't stop an attacker with just three shots?

It's also possibly that the most often amount of shots used to stop an attack is in fact zero, because chances are high they are massively under reported because who wants to call the police and tell them they pointed a gun at someone?

The actual answer to how many shots are needed to stop an attacker is:

As many as it takes.
 
Capacity is an online armchair commando issue. In a real life confrontation you will run out of time before you run out of ammunition. Most likely if you dump an entire magazine in a public place you are going to end up in JAIL. It's going to be close, unexpected and fast. Learn to place your first two shots accurately then MOVE. Take cover and call the POLICE.
 
I've been carrying my Shield IWB with the N8 squared Pro holster, and can hardly tell I have it. The N8 is by far the most comfortable holster I have ever used.

+1 on this; I also have an N8 holster for my 40C and it's exactly as stated, comfortable, barely noticable, and easy to draw from.

The only time I really notice the holster and gun is when I'm driving; sometimes the bulk will put pressure on my hip, mostly due to the seat belt.
 
Are you talking because of spring tension? It's hard to load?

This baffles me a little.

First, the best way to relieve it is to go train with it so the spring gets softened by cycling it... and you get as used to the gun as you should.

Second... buy the UPLULA for loading the magazine. Best twenty whatever dollars you will spend.


If it's because it's hard to load until the springs soften, then load your gun full because you are not under pressure and have time to make sure it's right.

Also, you know... carrying maximum capacity in your carry gun is where you will most likely need it. Not carrying at full capacity makes no sense.

Then drop a round from your second magazine if you are worried about slamming it home under pressure because better you can consistently reload first time than have one less round to use.




Also... most encounters don't end in three shots. That's the average taken from numbers that are hard to compile accurately. If they are accurate, that could be thousands of encounters that end with zero shots and one that ends with three. Conversely, it could be any number of encounters ending with anything up to 30 shots that happen to end in three.

It could also be that most people train to shoot three shots at a time and that's what they do under pressure because they have been told three is the average. A self fulfilling prophesy... but how many people don't stop an attacker with just three shots?

It's also possibly that the most often amount of shots used to stop an attack is in fact zero, because chances are high they are massively under reported because who wants to call the police and tell them they pointed a gun at someone?

The actual answer to how many shots are needed to stop an attacker is:

As many as it takes.

Baffles .... ya I agree!! I dont understand why u wouldn't load a magazine fully. Yes mags can be a little tough when new. But USE THEM!!! Especially to their full potential

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The only issue I've had with the 9mm Shield is the 7 round mag. 8+1 is easy with the 8 round mag but the 7 round mag is EXTREMELY hard to seat with the breach closed so, 7+1 is not gonna happen for me until the spring loosens up a bit.
 
Capacity is an online armchair commando issue. In a real life confrontation you will run out of time before you run out of ammunition. Most likely if you dump an entire magazine in a public place you are going to end up in JAIL. It's going to be close, unexpected and fast. Learn to place your first two shots accurately then MOVE. Take cover and call the POLICE.

Ammunition capacity is simply stacking your odds in as much of your favor as possible.

I'm going to go with learn to make your first shots accurately while moving. I don't understand why anyone would stand there...

That's not armchair commando, that's understanding that standing still while being attacked is the quickest way to hand an attacker success.

There's a little experience talking as well as training.
 
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