Former Police chief says 2nd amendment outdated

[DonD]

International Association of Chiefs of Police have been anti 2nd amendment for many many years now.

From an article dated July 31 2012 in the Chicago Suntimes




Police chiefs are right: Ban assault weapons - Chicago Sun-Times

Oh, boy, you lit my fire. Polisar was the chief in Albuquerque when I lived there, first in a long line of worthless toad police chiefs chosen for their political correctness. Polisar isn't worth a damn, threw his officers under the bus and went on to higher paying jobs and more groveling to his political seniors. Simply disgusting. Don

 

[RSWMTB]

A. How much did the Huffington Compost Heap pay him?


B. I bet he doesn't think the provision in which retired LEOs can carry is "outdated"...



What a Loser.

 

[chud333]

The Constitution and Bill of Rights ---
ARE NOT NEGOTIABLE---
Don't care if the Pope or Daili Lama
or Courtney Kardashian says so.
Or some stoned ex-policeman....

End of Story...

Chuck

 

[mkk41]

With all due respect , Police Chiefs are not cops anymore. They become politicians when they put on the white shirt/hat/eagles/stars or other insignia of their office. They're in a terrible position between city/town officials , their officers and the people of their community. Unfortunately , many become as jaded as the officials over them.

 

[KJM]

Yeah..... The "Police Chief" and "General McChrystal" ought to have a sleep over.

 

[A1U]

The vast majority of chiefs of police are not and never were "Cops."They are by and large politicians. Most serve at the pleasure of their respective governing board, and are not merit employees.

This means they can be fired for speaking out agint the fasoinable or popular trend of the day. They don't deal with crime firsthand; they deal with liability issues and internal politics, and pushing the biggest canard ever foisted on the public, " community policing."

These are the folks who will say things like, "you can't arrest your way out of a problem." Really? Removing and segregating the problem won't make things better? If guess if they say it enough it makes it so.

On these and 2A issues they should have zero credibility as they do not speak their minds but rather tow he party line, but the general public sees them a folks who were down in the dirt with the real police, when he reality is that they were wheeling and dealing to gain political favor.

Yes, there are exceptions, I know, but by and large these folks are no better than elected opportunists.

 

[mkk41]

I for one think the First Amendment has become grossly perverted. Freedom of the press to report the TRUTH should always be protected.

But the SPIN that todays press puts on stories for the sake of sensationalizing tragic events to keep people tuned in and in turn pushing a publishers political agenda and SELLING the products of the endless commercial sponsors , couldn't be what the Founding Fathers envisioned.

 

[Poodle Soup]

I for one think the First Amendment has become grossly perverted. Freedom of the press to report the TRUTH should always be protected.

But the SPIN that todays press puts on stories for the sake of sensationalizing tragic events to keep people tuned in and in turn pushing a publishers political agenda and SELLING the products of the endless commercial sponsors , couldn't be what the Founding Fathers envisioned.

While I bet Frankilin would be doing the same thing I agree. The media is disgusting and so are the mindless morons who are glued to the TV drooling and taking in every last word. (Pisses me off more when I find my self falling for it)

 

[Old cop]

Former police chief is probably looking for another chief's job and giving the media what they want to hear and positioning him/herself for their next interview. Most of these characters are pretty shallow.

 

[blujax01]

The Chief Legal Counsel for the Ohio Police Chief's Association stated in a letter to the Columbus Dispatch that firearm owners names should be available to the public so students and concerned citizens could research them and alert the police of "suspicious activity".

Not all cops are pro 2A. Not by a long shot...

 

[A10]

Let Stamper put down his guns. And take a stroll through a bad part of Seattle after dark maybe someone he knows might recognize him.

I can help him with some nice hiking routes......

 

[Jack Wagon]

I'm convinced.

 

[HayesGreener]

The vast majority of chiefs of police are not and never were "Cops."They are by and large politicians. Most serve at the pleasure of their respective governing board, and are not merit employees.

This means they can be fired for speaking out agint the fasoinable or popular trend of the day. They don't deal with crime firsthand; they deal with liability issues and internal politics, and pushing the biggest canard ever foisted on the public, " community policing."

These are the folks who will say things like, "you can't arrest your way out of a problem." Really? Removing and segregating the problem won't make things better? If guess if they say it enough it makes it so.

On these and 2A issues they should have zero credibility as they do not speak their minds but rather tow he party line, but the general public sees them a folks who were down in the dirt with the real police, when he reality is that they were wheeling and dealing to gain political favor.

Yes, there are exceptions, I know, but by and large these folks are no better than elected opportunists.

I must respectfully dispute your cynical generalization, sir. There are roughly 17,000 police chiefs in the U.S. The IACP does not speak for all of us, although the executive committees seem to be dominated by chiefs from the big departments from big cities (read liberal) which DO tend to be highly political appointees. There are some political aspects for every chief executive but I worked my way up through the ranks, wrestled drunks in the street, shot it out with bad guys, investigated all manner of crimes, spent many years in SWAT, and later fought city hall for pay and benefits and working conditions of my officers. I was by no means unique-many of my fellow chiefs have similar experiences to mine and are "real cops" as much as anyone who ever carried a badge. I must agree that some chiefs are political whores and an embarassment to me but the VAST MAJORITY are honorable leaders who are trying to do the right thing for their communities and their people.

 

[MSgt G]

To quote Debra Barone from one of my all time favorite shows, Everybody Loves Raymond, "Idiot!"

 

[CoMF]

"Outdated"... Right... And the First Amendment only refers to quill and parchment, movable type and the spoken word and the Fifth and Sixth only apply to 18th Century colonial English law when the judge, prosecutor and defense all wore elaborate "court dress" with white powdered wigs...

*Sigh* Such fatuous remarks are par for the course with "buffet" Constitutionalists...

 

[BigCityChief]

I must respectfully dispute your cynical generalization, sir. There are roughly 17,000 police chiefs in the U.S. The IACP does not speak for all of us, although the executive committees seem to be dominated by chiefs from the big departments from big cities (read liberal) which DO tend to be highly political appointees. There are some political aspects for every chief executive but I worked my way up through the ranks, wrestled drunks in the street, shot it out with bad guys, investigated all manner of crimes, spent many years in SWAT, and later fought city hall for pay and benefits and working conditions of my officers. I was by no means unique-many of my fellow chiefs have similar experiences to mine and are "real cops" as much as anyone who ever carried a badge. I must agree that some chiefs are political whores and an embarassment to me but the VAST MAJORITY are honorable leaders who are trying to do the right thing for their communities and their people.

Exactly right!

 

[mkk41]

I must respectfully dispute your cynical generalization, sir. There are roughly 17,000 police chiefs in the U.S. The IACP does not speak for all of us, although the executive committees seem to be dominated by chiefs from the big departments from big cities (read liberal) which DO tend to be highly political appointees. There are some political aspects for every chief executive but I worked my way up through the ranks, wrestled drunks in the street, shot it out with bad guys, investigated all manner of crimes, spent many years in SWAT, and later fought city hall for pay and benefits and working conditions of my officers. I was by no means unique-many of my fellow chiefs have similar experiences to mine and are "real cops" as much as anyone who ever carried a badge. I must agree that some chiefs are political whores and an embarassment to me but the VAST MAJORITY are honorable leaders who are trying to do the right thing for their communities and their people.

But good guys like you are rarely on the news speaking out in favor of armed citizens.

Some years ago , the Chief of a larger Philly suburb , who was big-time anti-gun , and a few of his officers , were caught selling guns that were turned in a buy-back program , back out on the streets.

 

[Steve in Vermont]

We shouldn't place every Chief of Police into the same category. Every department is different, as is the population they represent. Politics is something they can't avoid. Most of them manage to "stay above the fray" and do their jobs well. A few will get drawn deeply into politics and it find themselves "playing the game" of political correctness in order to survive. Most chiefs I've known fall into the first category, a couple into the second. And every officer, in every department, knows where his chiefs loyalty resides. For those of us on the outside it's often hard to tell.