FS9 Competition Sights setup, need advice

[greerstyl]

Hey all M&P nuts,

I love my full size, apex flat fss kit, Talon grips, Storm lake threaded barrel, tlr2s, that I want to put competition sights on.

I am looking for specific answers or suggestions for my wants. I will be shooting steel plates and similar competitions, and looking to zero at 10 yards. I prefer a center mass hold (bullet impact just on top of front sight), or a dead on hold (bullet impact on sight line)

I would like a U notch rear that has the most sight picture view possible around it and FO front that fits the width, or close of the rear notch during aim. at the same point I think i would like to smallest FO.

So the questions is what brand, what rear notch width (and height) and what front width (and height), if applicable.

So far I have narrowed it down to the 10-8 Performance .140 rear and either the .125 or .115 FO 10-8 front.

Runner ups are warren tactical, .140 rear, .115 front

Then Dawson Precision (no U notch) but can tighten up the rear to .125 or less?

Thank you! I really appreciate the specific answers.

 

[OKFC05]

For competition, I prefer the stock FO sights that come on the M&P Pro 5" or the Dawson .100 FO front with their recommended rear.
I don't like u notch rears because I tend to get vertical error with them when I get in a hurry. I don't like any rear color or anything other than a plain black rear notch because I spend too much time looking at the rear sight already. If you get the rear notch too tight, it slows you down. A tight sight picture is good for precision shooting, not so much for speed shooting.


I have been shooting USPSA and IDPA competition for about two decades. I shoot steel challenge rarely, even though our club has monthly SC matches.

 

[Bkreutz]

First thing you need to do is decide which division you are going to shoot. Looking at your current setup it seems to me that you are a bit confused. If it was me (my disclaimer ) I'd lose the light (it gets in the way on the draw). If I was going to shoot iron sights, I'd also put the stock barrel back in (putting a comp on would put you into open division). I like lots of space around the front sight, it's faster to pick up and at 10 yards it really doesn't call for precision aiming. Agree with OKFC05 about blacking out the rear dots, I've done that on all my iron sighted pistols, much less confusing (one less thing to look at). I think you will find that after shooting steel for a while, muscle memory takes over and lining up the sights becomes less important (I know this sounds counter intuitive, but point shooting is surprisingly accurate, most of the top shooters do this) But again, the first thing you need to do is decide which division to shoot and then match the equipment to that decision. Have fun.

 

[greerstyl]

Great info thank you. The light has just always been on it and the barrel is just threaded with a cap no plans for a comp just like the looks. I think I am gonna go with the 140-115 setup. Anyone have their measurements?

Ty !!!!

 

[CBStuard]

I like lots of space around the front sight, it's faster to pick up and at 10 yards it really doesn't call for precision aiming.

While I don't compete, I remember one of the things Beretta did to their Elite II per Ernest Langdon recommendations was go to a wider rear sight from Novak for exactly this reason-it's faster.

 

[guidedfishing]

What you say you want to do and how you want to setup your gun is a little at odds. Some excellent advice here. You are really talking about action shooting where speed is key and reasonable accuracy is required.

IMHO, your front sight needs to be narrower with light on each side so its easy to pick up. You seem to by trying to setup up a bullseye gun, where you want a fast easy to acquire sight. Your rear sight should be flat black as stated, okay to have fiber on the front, that should be your focus on the front sight.

I don't see a real problem with the U notch, but it does not get you anything either. Your sight alignment is side to side and flush across the top.

Another item you did not bring up, is your holster. Your gun and your holster will dictate your division. Shoot steel challenge reloads are typically not an issue. USPSA well now you are talking setting up your belt.

You need to come to grips with the game you want to play and your idea of what you want your pistol & equipment to be.

Its all a learning curve. enjoy