Gas Price Check...

[Beemerguy53]

Prices hit $4.19 in southcentral PA this morning. It doesn't help that PA has the 3rd highest gas tax in the country.

The silver lining in the cloud is that I retired 6 years ago and don't have to commute anymore.

When I retired from my fire service career in 2004, I started what I thought was going to be my retirement job...but after 18 years it's a second career.

I'll be 69 in two weeks. I jokingly tell my co-workers -- all of whom are younger than I am -- that I plan to pull the plug for good in another two or three years, but since I'm on KMA time, I can leave when I want.

I drive 76 miles round-trip each day to my office, and both of my cars require premium fuel and get about 25 miles per gallon. Right now it's costing me $13 in gas, plus $2.40 in tolls, to go to work every day. That's $308 I would add to my monthly income simply by not working...it does make a man think...

 

[BigBoy99]

Why has the price of fuel increased? The actual petroleum product being sold at the pumps has probably been in the US for several months and was purchased by the oil companies when the price of crude was much lower. The actual more expensive crude is probably still in the ground or sitting in a storage tank in some foreign country, awaiting shipment to the US. Why are we in the US paying for the higher price for petroleum product which at not even here? I'm seeing oil company greed.

 

[quikdraw67]

No. Not gouging. Do you watch prices at all. Oil is 115.00 a barrel now. Look before you speak.
Do you know what it was a week ago?
If oil from Russia gets sanctioned, look for 6-7 a gallon.

This is a price WE, as Americans living in a free society can pay to help Democracy, if that's what it comes to.

Or you can feel free to do This as well.'I Just Can't Stand By': American Veterans Join the Fight in Ukraine

That gas was already in the ground. If they got a tanker that morning. different story. But they didn't. So that's gouging.

I understand how it works. Oil is a commodity.

 

[OLDSTER]

$3.89 here. I'd gladly pay $6.00+ for a year if it meant cutting off Putins' oil and helping Ukraine.

 

[Greyman50]

Yep, this is not supply and demand issue, its a contrived situation by those in charge.
Solution is quite simple, explore more, drill more, complete All supply pipe lines, build/ open refineries and STOP exporting ANY of our petroleum products .
If your and your neighbors houses are on fire, put fire out in YOUR house FIRST.

 

[ladder13]

I'll pay whatever it takes to stop buying foreign oil.

Shell just bought a bunch of Russian oil at discount, I'm done with them, and their weak excuse for it.

 

[luvsmiths]

That gas was already in the ground. If they got a tanker that morning. different story. But they didn't. So that's gouging.

I understand how it works. Oil is a commodity.

And the following tanker is what they set up for in price, not the one they just bought.

I got your point though. When a barrel goes down, they don't drop quick. But they have to set up for the increases they will be paying also. Thats just how it works, whether you or me like it or not.

Gouging would be like that hurricane in TX where they went up just for kicks.

 

[luvsmiths]

I'll pay whatever it takes to stop buying foreign oil.

Shell just bought a bunch of Russian oil at discount, I'm done with them, and their weak excuse for it.

And I'm thinking a LOT of people are going to be done with them. We'll see this week.
I'll keep an eye on their stock price. That is where it will show.

BP cut out of a bunch of deals with Russia right after, and stock got hammered, but I think it'll come back. They did the right thing.

 

[pantannojack]

Some folks, the ones I no longer talk to, are celebrating.

 

[luvsmiths]

Yep, this is not supply and demand issue, its a contrived situation by those in charge.
Solution is quite simple, explore more, drill more, complete All supply pipe lines, build/ open refineries and STOP exporting ANY of our petroleum products .
If your and your neighbors houses are on fire, put fire out in YOUR house FIRST.

I'm not 100% on what I am about to say, so someone here correct me if wrong.

From what I understand, it is cheaper for us to import oil, and sell ours, than the cost to refine everything we drill here. Could be BS but it went that we would be paying lots more at pump for our own oil.

Anyone know more about this and what the actual facts are?

 

[Onomea]

.... NZ$3.06/US$4.43.7 per litre for 91 octane, our lowest. $3.38.0/$4.91.5 for 98, our "premium" fuel.

91 octane, your lowest, is usually considered premium in the US, although 93 and 93 are also premium.

I've never heard of 98.

Regular here is typically 87.

Do you know why the octane ratings are so high in Kiwiland?

 

[bigwheelzip]

The US uses the average of two different types of octane measurement standards, NZ just uses one type of measurement standard.

US averages both Research and Motor standard results (RON + MON)/2 and NZ uses just RON

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[walkin jack]

Cheap and Gas. Two words that are mutually exclusive... Where will it end ?!?!

 

[silverstateS&W]

Reno Nv $4.69 .good thing we have no income tax.

 

[yaktamer]

Do you know why the octane ratings are so high in Kiwiland?

I think it has something to do with the water in the bathtub circling the drain in the opposite direction in the Southern Hemisphere.

 

[ironhead7544]

Winchester VA yesterday at noon: $3.79 but some stations were a bit higher.

I am glad my HD Sportster gets good mileage.

 

[fordson]

Update to my previous post:
NE Florida, greater Jacksonville area. Wednesday, regular was $3.49; Friday, $3.79. Today, $3.99.
Got nothing snarky to say……..

 

[UncleEd]

According to one report I
heard today, the U.S.imports
no more than 7 percent of its
oil from Russia. And that is
to serve Hawaii, the West
Coast.

It is the Europeans who will
pay the most, at least
initially, and suffer from
any cutoff which will affect
many of its industries.

 

[djohns6]

$3.89 today . Up since yesterday .

 

[Ματθιας]

Gas actually went down at the Circle K $3.87.

There might be a gas war between it and the Walmart neighborhood market.

 

[Greyman50]

Just an added note, " those in charge" also created all the restrictions which cause higher refining costs here. nuf sed…

 

[Kiwi cop]

I'm not 100% on what I am about to say, so someone here correct me if wrong.

From what I understand, it is cheaper for us to import oil, and sell ours, than the cost to refine everything we drill here. Could be BS but it went that we would be paying lots more at pump for our own oil.

Anyone know more about this and what the actual facts are?

I know here in NZ our crude is light crude and not suitable for refining into petrol/gasoline. I don't know about US crude though.

Recently our one and only refinery went from refining crude oil into petrol to importing already refined product. And prices went up immediately (six months before this latest cycle of price rises.

 

[LVSteve]

I know here in NZ our crude is light crude and not suitable for refining into petrol/gasoline.

That's weird. I thought light crude was just the stuff for gasoline/petrol.

 

[Kiwi cop]

91 octane, your lowest, is usually considered premium in the US, although 93 and 93 are also premium.

I've never heard of 98.

Regular here is typically 87.

Do you know why the octane ratings are so high in Kiwiland?

Back when I was a kid we had "standard" (87 leaded octane) and "Super" (89 unleaded octane) at the pumps. Then we went to 91 for unleaded and when 87 "leaded fuel" was passed out 95. Then we got "premium (98). This was in the le 90's, when people began to be concerned about global warming and emissions. Apparently the higher octane is less harmful to the atmosphere.

We have an ageing vehicle fleet (average age of cars on our roads is 13 years plus) and newer vehicles have smaller and more efficient engines (our new MG ZST, a made in China SUV under the old "Morris Garage" brand, has a 1300cc turbo engine) which are made to run on 95 + octane.

My patrol car, a "Holden" (GM brand now discontinued) SUV was made in Europe to be used with 95 octane petrol. When they come into service the department negotiated with Holden that they could use 91 octane as a cost saving and retain the warranty.

Last week the engine check light on my car came on at the start of my Sunday shift. I very carefully drove it the 45 minutes to where I could a) pick up a spare car, and b) get it checked by the service centre on Monday morning. The issue was a clogged sensor due to the use of 91 octane fuel.

So modern cars made for the higher octane fuel can, and will, be damaged by using the lower octane.

On a side note, in 2018 when Karen and I visited the U.S., we drove a brand new (27 miles on the clock at pickup) Hyundai Elantra rental car. There was no owners manual (I had to go online when a warning light came on to find out why) and no stickers inside the fuel cap flap, so I just used 87. Of course I also discovered that unlike here, where petrol/gas pumps ar green/blue and diesel black, in the U.S. it is reversed.

Just as well I could not get the pumps to work with the green "diesel" pump in the tank at he first fill.

 

[Kiwi cop]

I think it has something to do with the water in the bathtub circling the drain in the opposite direction in the Southern Hemisphere.

Our storms also turn clockwise while "up north" they are reversed.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Covering a fair amount of territory today , it was $4 to $4.19 for regular . But volatile .

In the modern era , stations change their price with each fuel delivery . Back in the day of two pump mom & pop stations , that could be a week or more between . But at the now typical convience mart surrounded by sixty' leven pumps , it averages about 36 hours between deliveries .

 

[len917]

I'm not 100% on what I am about to say, so someone here correct me if wrong.

From what I understand, it is cheaper for us to import oil, and sell ours, than the cost to refine everything we drill here. Could be BS but it went that we would be paying lots more at pump for our own oil.

Anyone know more about this and what the actual facts are?

First: Who would buy our oil at a higher price than what US pays for imported oil.
Second: Our oil is much cleaner and needs less refining.
Third: Transporting our own oil has got to be cheaper by pipeline than transporting on a tanker over the ocean.
If you mean importing from Canada or Mexico, you may have a point there.
$4.29 today

 

[len917]

I think I recently read that Italy was 100% energy dependent on them and Germany 50%. Someone correct me if wrong, but if so that is where the prices would fly for the world if oil is sanctioned.

I guess we could try to look at it as our own personal contribution to Freedom and Democracy. We don't have to like it, but the world is stepping up, and that means we all need to do what we can, and take some pain if that is. what is needed to help defeat Tyranny.

OUR Country was built on a lot of pain and a lot gave their lives so we could live like we are able to live.

I'll d my part and take some pain.

This isn't meant as a rant to your post. Just maybe a way for us to look at what's going on that can help us better accept some of it.

Things that were done that hurt our own energy independence before all this happened, I am not speaking on, if ya know what I mean.....

And if you don't want to pay more for gas, maybe you'd like to step up and do what these guys are doing. Most of them probably won't come home. ( I started a thread with this in the lounge)
God Bless all of them that do this- They are true Americans that are willing to pay the ultimate sacrifice if it comes to that- for the Freedom of strangers.

American veterans are heading to Ukraine to join the country's fight against Russia: report

I agree with you on the price we pay for freedom, but in this case the price doesn't have to be so high for the same result. The adm. should also "hurt" by reversing their environmental nonsense. They don't pay for the fuel in their vehicles-we do.
We, not the gov't, will sacrifice for Ukraine-that's what we do.

 

[SASABERANGER]

Dothan, AL 3.699-$3.999 + on 3/6.
Between Hartford and Enterprise at Marathon in the country it was $3.689 for the past two days.
In Enterprise Reg went up 10 cents while we were at the show on Saturday and now sits at $3.999. On Friday it jumped 30 cents during the four hours we were in Dothan Setting up.
Diesel is now $4.799+ in Enterprise and just a few cents cheaper at spots in Dothan.
No end in sight.
Just about everything at the diners has increased in the past two weeks, same with the food stores.
Thom Braxton
SWCA #1474

 

[Rob613]

$3.65 today at Sams…$3.75-$3.80 around the rest of town.