Get a Safe.

[9c1 lover]

If you do not have a gun safe, get one. One of my shooting buddies had his house broken into this week.They stole 14 of his handguns. All he has left are the ones stored at his range locker.

Sorry but that is extremely disgusting, over a dozen guns and can't get a safe.

Just plain irresponsible, the loss of guns/ money serves him right, but what is even worse, 14 guns are now out there to rob and kill people, because your friend wanted to be cheap.

 

[cracker57]

9c1lover
you said it all buddy, I feel the same way. The last thing I ever want to do is call LE and say I left my guns out and they stole them all along with my 3000 rnds of wammo. the piece of mind is worth the price of a safe.

 

[DGT]

Gun safe bolted down, alarm system, two Irish Wolfhounds and an Ill-tempered wife. Can't think of anything else I can do...

 

[Kanewpadle]

Responsible gun owners should own a gun safe and use it.

I see this all the time and it's frustrating.

 

[JoeyD]

Quote--"By the way, he had also had the gunsmith carefully deactivate each gun by doing things like shortening the firing pins.

I do this ever time I leave the house, you would need a micrometer to tell the difference.

 

[9c1 lover]

I do this ever time I leave the house, you would need a micrometer to tell the difference.

Everytime you leave your house you replace all the firing pins with shorter ones? Really?

Usually people stealing guns, the guns end up in peoples hands that use the for robbing people, a non working gun robs people, just a easy, this is still no excuse for safe gun keeping, just lock the dang things up.

Dummy guns for thieves to smash and grab is pretty stupid too, imho, while they might not be able to be used to kill, they can still EASILY be used to ROB!

 

[gregintenn]

the loss of guns/ money serves him right

That isn't very nice at all. If he leaves them out on the front lawn, they belong to him, and no one has the right to take them. DO you keep your car, television, computer, etc in a safe? Would it "serve you right" if they were stolen?

The Homeowner bought a third safe and took it to a welder
to have a hidden compartment welded in the top of the new safe which was then filled with 5 pounds of black powder

I wouldn't want to live near him if his house caught fire!!??!

 

[GregG]

I just love it (not) when someone gets on a forum and whines about a burglar taking all their guns.

BUY A DAMN SAFE.

If someone only has one or two guns, ok, but pretend the guns are cash and find a hiding place place for them that no one will ever find.

 

[9c1 lover]

That isn't very nice at all. If he leaves them out on the front lawn, they belong to him, and no one has the right to take them. DO you keep your car, television, computer, etc in a safe? Would it "serve you right" if they were stolen?


I wouldn't want to live near him if his house caught fire!!??!

My car and tv and computer are notused to rob and kill people, and further wittle away our rights to own firearms if stolen. Very bad comparison.

As far as them being his and him leaving them out in his front lawn, Welcome to planet Earth, sorry but life is not fair here, but the beer is good. You are right, he SHOULD be able to do that, unfortunately, that is not acceptable. We live in a world filled with thieves and piece's of excremint, so, to protect the only right that really matters to keep our country, we need to keep guns out of criminals hands.

It sadens me that you can't see my point, to the point you would defend the irresponsibility.

Nice try though.

 

[9c1 lover]

I just love it (not) when someone gets on a forum and whines about a burglar taking all their guns.

BUY A DAMN SAFE.

If someone only has one or two guns, ok, but pretend the guns are cash and find a hiding place place for them that no one will ever find.

Even one or two, be responsible, it's not just a piece of metal, guns are highly regulated and kept from criminals, the only way they get them is from theft, STOP HELPING THEM, YOUR stolen gun hurts ALL OF US.

 

[asm3686]

I feel more importantly than keeping my guns away from criminals is keeping them away from children. If a thrift wants them bad enough they will get them but a curious child is all it would take to make a believer out of you. A few years back a guy I went toit school with had his pistol on his night stand and his 7 year old shot a hole in bedroom wall. Luckily nobody was injured but it could have been far worse.

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[9c1 lover]

I feel more importantly than keeping my guns away from criminals is keeping them away from children. If a thrift wants them bad enough they will get them but a curious child is all it would take to make a believer out of you. A few years back a guy I went toit school with had his pistol on his night stand and his 7 year old shot a hole in bedroom wall. Luckily nobody was injured but it could have been far worse.

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Should not have kept his kids from the guns at an early age, my 4 year old has shot guns and has more gun safety than several adults I know.

The forbidden fruit attitude kills a lot of children.

My sons knows what to do before you touch a gun, knows not to touch a gun without me, and knows what a gun does, your buddy should have shown his child gun safety if he cared to keep a gun exposed.

I test my child daily in gun safety, he is 4.

Be responsible people, dang!

keeping them away from children

Worst thing you could do! Teach them YOUNG! I bet all he did was say "don't touch this" IF that!
And now he is wondering why it happened, or blames the kid. SAD.

 

[asm3686]

I keep all of my guns locked up in the safe but when my kids are 4-5 I will start the process of teaching them gun safety and proper handling procedures so they k ow it is not a toy and it can be deadly

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[Kanewpadle]

That isn't very nice at all. If he leaves them out on the front lawn, they belong to him, and no one has the right to take them. DO you keep your car, television, computer, etc in a safe? Would it "serve you right" if they were stolen?


I wouldn't want to live near him if his house caught fire!!??!

No, it wasn't very nice. But it was true.

Too many gun owners just can't bring themselves to buy a safe but they sure as heck can afford another gun!!

ALL gun owners should have one. Why do you think you are not charged sales tax when you buy one. It's an incentive.

Because of people like this, many states have stepped in and require gun owners buy and use a gun safe or pistol safe. Just what we need, more government because some of us don't use common sense. And more states are considering the same law.

 

[writerinmo]

In the closet in the master bedroom, there is a cheapy gun safe, bolted to the floor and wall. It is easily seen if you slide the closet door back. My idea is that any thieves will see it and waste a bunch of time tearing it out or cutting it open. Hopefully they get so mad when they find the Daisy BB guns and old Slavia .177 pellet rifle and a couple of old Mosin stocks that I keep in there that they have a heart attack and drop dead on the spot. Good luck in finding the small handgun safes that are hidden throughout the house, or the safes where the rifles are hidden in places that your usual thug would NEVER think of looking...hehehe... sometimes doing your own remodeling has unforseen benefits.

 

[quneur]

It takes me months to able to afford a gun purchase. I've been looking at safes for my very small gun collection but would have to forgo eating for a month then I would have to try to figure out how to bolt it down to the floor of my second story apartment. I think the apartment manager would have something to say about that.

 

[Qball]

Gunsafes are mandatory here in Sweden.

Can't get a license if you ain't got one.

 

[Beemerguy53]

Buying a gun safe is only part of what is needed.

Install it securely mounted to the floor. A safe that just stands on the floor can be carried away by 2-3 good sized guys using an appliance dolly.

Then keep the door closed and LOCKED. Never leave the combination one number from completion. A lot of people do so and their safes are easily compromised.

A good safe is a lot cheaper than replacing one good gun.

Excellent points, especially the last...a really good safe can be bought these days for only a little more than the price of a moderately expensive handgun.

 

[Beemerguy53]

I worked with a Dr. once that was a serious gun nut and collector. I went with him one time to pick up some guns from a gunsmith and was amazed to see he had some Montgomery Wards rifles and shotguns and H&R revolvers highly blued and the wood poly-urethane coated. When I asked him why he spend so much money on getting the guns prettied up - especially when the dress-up in some cases exceeded the value of the gun - he told me they were his "bait guns". He would place the "bait gun" in locked, glass cabinets while the good stuff was locked up in hidden gun safes. He had been the victim of a few robberies, and the thieves smashed and grabbed all of the bait guns and didn't bother anything else in the house. By the way, he had also had the gunsmith carefully deactivate each gun by doing things like shortening the firing pins.

Regards,

Dave

Now that's one clever idea! Thanks for sharing it with us!

 

[Beemerguy53]

Great idea, but then he will get sued, especially if they survive and are maimed. Great country we live in.


Anyways, to all the guys that have their guns stolen because they have no safe, thank you for placing more guns in the hands of criminals. Safe gun handling starts with safe gun KEEPING, yes you should not have to, but the facts are you just helped arm people that are the reason our gun rights are under attack.

If you can afford a gun, you can afford a safe. Granted nothing will stop a determined thief, but at least don't make it easy for them to just walk in and walk out.

People having guns and not under lock and key when not home, imho, are completly irresponsible gun owners.

Glass front cases do not count, and the mentality that "it won't happen to me" is inexcusable.

To those who are responsible gun owners, who don't like helping thiefs get our guns so our right come under even more fire, to you I say THANKS.

You make some very good points.

When I was in the process of buying my safe, and wondering which model to buy, the salesman pointed out that what you are really buying is time...

If you live in a populated area, with attentive neighbors, you don't necessarily need the biggest, strongest safe money will buy, because a burglary of your property and an attempt to break into the safe will be noticed promptly. If you live in the middle of nowhere, in a place where the bad guys would go unnoticed while they try to get your safe open, you need a heavier, stronger model.

Alarming the safe itself, or the room where it sits, is a good idea as well.