Gimme metal over plastic!

I like the look of a steel weapon. A polished 1911 gives me that warm fuzzy feelin'. To carry a beautiful 7 round, 39 oz. 1911 when I could carry an ugly 24oz 10 round Glock 30 is just stupid. To a BBQ, OK, otherwise forget about it.
 
Thanks, John...

Although I do have a plastic "gun", I don't have any pics of it.
It goes Bang everytime, but it's for last-ditch use only.
Let's see if there's any plastic in the following:
JMHO, TACC1
 

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When someone see's my polished 66 snub with ahrends grips they reply, wow thats a beautiful firearm! When was the last time someone said that about a plastic piece?
 
I don't recall anyone I ever cleared leather on commenting on how ugly or pretty my pistol was. Makes me wonder just how important fashion is in a gun fight. I just don't understand these threads at all. Hope I don't get flamed but I really just don't get it.
 
I don't recall anyone I ever cleared leather on commenting on how ugly or pretty my pistol was. Makes me wonder just how important fashion is in a gun fight. I just don't understand these threads at all. Hope I don't get flamed but I really just don't get it.[/QUOTE
Its about a finely made quality piece of workmanship that you can appreciate having with your hard earned money. Not about the badguy you just cleared leather to complimenting you!!!
 
I'm certainly not ant authority on polimer guns; I don't own one and I can't remember ever firing one. I think polymer is wisely used in some rifle and shot gun stocks, but I formed that opinion from reading test data and gun rag articles-some very good I think. As To the one we are addressing here, hand guns, and primarily pistols, I have arrived at somewhat of a position. I think that the way these plastic guns are made now, that the useful application is somewhere right at or below 9mm in its "standard" form, not +P or certainly not +P+. etc. I followed a discussion here on the forum of younger (than me) guys talking about the problems they had encountered with one of the S&W 40 s&w polimer pistols. The problem seemed to be caused by sharp recoil. Now, I have owned a Browning Hi-Power in 40 S&W-and, of course, it is a metal gun, but not a heavy one, about 28 OZ's unloaded, and I found the recoil quite sharp in it, and I shoot 44 magnum revolvers on a regular basis, as well as a 10mm, etc. The 40 S&W has what I call a sharp recoil-not so much a heavy recoil, but a sharp one, and I think that in a service size pistol in 40 S&W, there needs to be an all around heavier mechaism because of this "shock," as well as a need for the weight that this heavier mechanism would bring, to make shooting the gun rapidly, more managable. I recently got a S&W 4006, supposedly the first gun designed specifically for the 40 S&W, and I think they got it right, right out of the gate, and frankly, I can't imagine it being any smaller/lighter, while continuing to be as good a handling gun as it is. I have a model 59 with the alloy frame, and it weighs 30 OZ's unloaded. I have owned it for over 25 years, and it is a fine 9mm, but I wouldn't want it to be any lighter than it is! I think that the personality in the metal guns will win many younger folks over eventually, and there seems to be a brisk market for the 3rd gen guns-police trade ins, etc right now. Might be good to have a few stuffed in the back of the safe for that day. Oh, and what if, like metal, there is fatigue in polymer at some point, radically termanating the service life of guns made out of it? Just a thought. Flapjack.
 
All I can say is that after spending almost two years living in the Jungle, if I ever had to go back, it would be with a Glock 21. I know of no gun that will hold up in that enviornment as well as a Glock. Most folks don't have any idea how harsh the enviornment in a Jungle is on weapons, especially during monsoon. Weapons that stand up to that enviornment are good as gold.

If I lived in the rear, a all metal gun might be the thing, but I lived in the mud and the blood of the paddies and the tripple canopy. Harsh enviornment for firearms. Cleaned them, 24/7. You weapon is your life.

I pretty much choose my equiptment according to the enviornment I'm going into.

But I do love my 1911s, BHPs, S&W Revolvers and Sigs along with my Glocks. It just depends on where I going as to what I carry.

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I had a fleeting lapse of wisdom on Friday and almost sold one of my third gens. After l took it to the range to check mechanical integrity and field stripped it, cleaned it and got it ready to go, l remembered why l love the heft and feel of cold steel. I came to my senses and was able to keep it in my flock! Whew! WHAT was l thinking???
 
I agree. We live in a cheap plastic throw away world. Hell, I even work in the plastics industry. Plastic pipe fittings.
Fine firearms used to be works of art as well as serious tools.

Just picked up this cute little critter at a gunshow friday evening. Something a person can say they are proud to own. Mid 70s 34-1 Kit Gun.

I do own a couple of plastic guns. XD-40 and a Glock 20. Nothing wrong with them. They work. But they just can`t compare to a good Smith wheel gun like the little 34-1 I just brought home or a 1911.

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I agree.. great pictures. Metals and plastic are two different things. We can put cylinder in metal guns not in plastic. Metals are costly than plastic. I prefer both.
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I only have one plastic gun now, a Sig P250 in .45. It's my nightstand gun. If I have to use it in self defence, I have no problem with it going into a police property room. I could not say the same for any of my steel Smiths.
 
easier and less costly manufacturing - - -

Polymer firearms fill a utilitarian need similarly to a Toyota Yaris. It's reliable, decently priced and quite frankly boring.

I've driven a Yaris and shot a Glock. Both while perfectly fulfilling their intended role left me uninspired.

It's not just handguns either. I enjoy shooting an M1 Garand a lot more than the new plastic wonder Bushmaster ACR I recently purchased.
Now, I would have gone with the Crown Victoria analogy. Reliable, decently priced and boring. But very serviceable.

I think the polymer firearms are intended as service weapons. Whether on the job or as a home defense weapon. And their cost seems to me to be much less than equal steel guns. I know my Combat Commander or Browning Hi Power 40 Practical would cost a bunch more to replace than an M&P in either 45 or 40. But that Browning sure is nicer looking.

I just this spring moved to a couple of M&Ps, having shot a friend's and liked the feel. But they will be utility, like my Sierra, not my Benz.
 
Personally I worry about Plastic parts on guns. And anything I want to "last", want to have for the future...

WE now know, that steel and wood will last well over 100 years.

WE have all had plastic "things" where the plastic crumbled in less than 20 years.

I "Fear Plastic"...

Don't You???
 
I have both and they have their place in life.

Learn to appreciate each for their purpose in life.

Remember, "To each his own" and enjoy what you have.
 
Polymer may be impervious to weather but not from a curious playful dog. It has happened.
 
Plastic only belongs if it's grips and only third after rubber and wood.
 
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