Global Warming to the NE

Speaking of global warming... Did they ever rescue those GW scientists stuck on their ship in the ice?

1970s - Ice Age doom and gloom
1990s - Global Warming doom and gloom
Now - Climate Change doom and gloom

Funny thing is... the cure is always the same. :rolleyes:
 
Never fails to amaze me that so many shooters, that understand intimately the science of ballistics, etc., can turn a blind eye & a deaf ear to the science of global climate change. Folks, it is happening. Just because it is cold right now, where you are or in your country doesn't mean climate isn't changing globally.

I have spent most of my life in north Mississippi, except for a stint in North Dakota funded by the Air Force. When I was a kid in the 50s & 60s, we had ice skates... yes, in Mississippi. Almost every year it got cold in the winter & stayed cold so that our lakes would freeze... once again often enough for us to purchase skates. I used to camp out at night on the lake ice. I remember someone driving a Volkswagen on a lake once. I also remember the winters in North Dakota during the 80s. I remember one month when the high never got above zero.

Point is, in my lifetime I have seen a very noticeable change in the weather. I bet the lakes around here haven't frozen over to the extent to walk on them for 15 or 20 years. It is actually rare to see any ice at all. I still see where North Dakota can get cold but it seems it doesn't get as cold & the cold doesn't last as long. Have y'all seen a change in climate & weather in your lifetime as well?

Surely others see these changes. Surely others see the extremes. Of course there has always been extremes... but not this often. These extremes are a sign of global warming. Surely we all see the data of the mean global temps steadily rising. We can debate what causes it but to deny it means we have become anti science. Do we really want to bury our heads in the sand & hope we didn't cause this, or at least cause some of it?

Seems to me sportsmen who spend much of their life outside in the environment should be championing any cause that protects our local environment... and the planet.
 
Turn a blind eye, or see it perfectly clear for the agenda driven junk science it has been for the last half century?

What does not amaze me, and have found to be very consistent, is that those who cling to such junk science with failed predictions decade after decade after decade, somehow think it's everyone else who is wrong.

If the blizzard of 1966 hit New York today.... oh never mind.
 
I have spent most of my life in north Mississippi, except for a stint in North Dakota funded by the Air Force. When I was a kid in the 50s & 60s, we had ice skates... yes, in Mississippi. Almost every year it got cold in the winter & stayed cold so that our lakes would freeze... once again often enough for us to purchase skates. I used to camp out at night on the lake ice. I remember someone driving a Volkswagen on a lake once. I also remember the winters in North Dakota during the 80s. I remember one month when the high never got above zero.

I spent the winters of 42-3 and part of 43-4 in Jackson Mississippi. It was cold, but nowhere near cold enough to give us any use for ice skates, and nowhere near as cold as the winters from that time in Connecticut where I grew up.

People forget we're in the warming phase of an interglacial. The cycle is quie a few thousand years from one peak to another, and we're not at the hot peak yet. The cycle is caused by the precession of the earth's axis of rotation.
 
...It might be a normal climate change, it might be partially man made, it might be all man made. But it is real. The scientists who actually study climate agree. It is going to effect everybody. Denying it is a lot like King Canute ordering the waves to stop. Interesting to watch but totally ineffective. Makes you wonder why politicians would deny reality.

I really hate it when people allow their political agendas or partisan beliefs (on either side) to distort something that should be a simple matter of science.

The world's climate is changing. We can debate about the reasons for that, and we can discuss measures to address it, but denying that it's happening seems to me to be like insisting that the Earth is flat. And making lame jokes about it is totally inappropriate, in my humble opinion.
 
Never fails to amaze me that so many shooters, that understand intimately the science of ballistics, etc., can turn a blind eye & a deaf ear to the science of global climate change. Folks, it is happening. Just because it is cold right now, where you are or in your country doesn't mean climate isn't changing globally.

I have spent most of my life in north Mississippi, except for a stint in North Dakota funded by the Air Force. When I was a kid in the 50s & 60s, we had ice skates... yes, in Mississippi. Almost every year it got cold in the winter & stayed cold so that our lakes would freeze... once again often enough for us to purchase skates. I used to camp out at night on the lake ice. I remember someone driving a Volkswagen on a lake once. I also remember the winters in North Dakota during the 80s. I remember one month when the high never got above zero.

Point is, in my lifetime I have seen a very noticeable change in the weather. I bet the lakes around here haven't frozen over to the extent to walk on them for 15 or 20 years. It is actually rare to see any ice at all. I still see where North Dakota can get cold but it seems it doesn't get as cold & the cold doesn't last as long. Have y'all seen a change in climate & weather in your lifetime as well?

Surely others see these changes. Surely others see the extremes. Of course there has always been extremes... but not this often. These extremes are a sign of global warming. Surely we all see the data of the mean global temps steadily rising. We can debate what causes it but to deny it means we have become anti science. Do we really want to bury our heads in the sand & hope we didn't cause this, or at least cause some of it?

Seems to me sportsmen who spend much of their life outside in the environment should be championing any cause that protects our local environment... and the planet.
Common sense tells us that the planet has a long history of climate change, starting at it's birth - tropical temps where it is now tundra, ice ages that saw glaciers where there are now deserts, lakes, rivers and seas that have dried up and disappeared and new ones where there was nary a drop of water before thanks to change in temperature and weather patterns. In fact, I would venture a guess that in the entire history of the earth there has never been two consecutive days with no change in the temperature or weather. If anything, climate change is the norm, not the exception, and to expect that temperatures and weather are somehow going to stay stable now simply because some humans deem that it should be so is almost as ridiculous as predicting the demise of a planet that has survived millions upon millions of years of continuous change based on 135 or so years of recorded data.
 
I can't believe this one ran out of gas after only 46 posts!
I still have a bunch of popcorn left.
 
Common sense tells us that the planet has a long history of climate change, starting at it's birth - tropical temps where it is now tundra, ice ages that saw glaciers where there are now deserts, lakes, rivers and seas that have dried up and disappeared and new ones where there was nary a drop of water before thanks to change in temperature and weather patterns. In fact, I would venture a guess that in the entire history of the earth there has never been two consecutive days with no change in the temperature or weather. If anything, climate change is the norm, not the exception, and to expect that temperatures and weather are somehow going to stay stable now simply because some humans deem that it should be so is almost as ridiculous as predicting the demise of a planet that has survived millions upon millions of years of continuous change based on 135 or so years of recorded data.
Of course there always has been change & that is well documented. However, with natural cycles, they normally occur over very extended thousands of years... and do so so gradually one wouldn't notice in one's lifetime. These natural cycles can & have been accelerated by outside factors, such as massive volcanic eruptions or impacts of objects from space... such as the rapid climate change that caused the end of the dinosaurs.

These events in history that have caused a rapid change in climate, generally involved massive releases of gasses into the atmosphere. This is no different than the concern of a nuclear winter if we had ever had a nuclear exchange. If the direct effects of the war didn't get you, the change in climate would. Therefore, it is no great leap in understanding to realize these huge amounts of pollutants (greenhouse gasses) that have been released into the atmosphere in the last century or so could impact global climate. To not acknowledge this is a matter of sticking your head in the sand.

No one has stated human activity has caused all of this rapid change, but the VAST majority of scientists agree we have played a major role... and unless we do something, will continue to do so. Yes, climate change is normal & expected but it can be modified by outside events.
 
Having often witnessed and participated in the buffoonery that passes for serious debate between the eco-hippies and the science-denying luddites over the validity and causes of climate change I am comforted by the fact that the most likely result of any such global catastrophe will be the extinction of the human race as we know it.

party on dudes!
 
There's been a lot of hot air and gas coming out of DC for a long time.
I'm wondering if the air from the deflated footballs is suspect also?
I'm not so much a global warming doubter, more of an agnostic.
 
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