Glock Accidentally Discharges
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nogoodnamesleft
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WOW .... becareful folks.
Nature boy
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I am no expert but everyone should know that when you carry a Glock you carry Glock. It is a NO frills shooter.
If that is what you want to carry then don't whine when you allwow your leather to bite you.
You should have checked your leather.
There is always a price to pay for extra speed.
If that is what you want to carry then don't whine when you allwow your leather to bite you.
You should have checked your leather.
There is always a price to pay for extra speed.
SW CQB 45
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galco is very thin leather and that did not happen overnight (meaning the leather protrusion into the trigger guard). hmmmm, wonder what caused that.
purely operator error on utilizing damaged/worn equipment.
should be titled gun "negligent" discharge
purely operator error on utilizing damaged/worn equipment.
should be titled gun "negligent" discharge
bobelk99
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Tain't no seech thing as 'accidental discharge'.
No pull trigger = no discharge
No pull trigger = no discharge
This perfectly illustrates why I have installed a Siderlock trigger safety on my Glock 36, an occasional carry gun. It's just too easy for entangled clothing or etc. to cause an unintentional, i.e., "accidental" discharge, with the Glock mechanism.
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How do you not see your holster deforming that way? That is owner negligence all the way! That is just plain carelessness, period!
That is also why I have never carried any of my glocks with a round in the chamber. Unless I am going into combat or a LEO on duty, there is not a round in the chamber of my semis.
That is also why I have never carried any of my glocks with a round in the chamber. Unless I am going into combat or a LEO on duty, there is not a round in the chamber of my semis.
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bitstream
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That looks like a good warning to pay attention to your leather and replace it when it starts to get soft and flexible. I'd also suggest that this wouldn't have happened if he had been making sure the gun was seated properly when he holstered it. I check it each time I suit up to be sure everything is correct. A quick glance down and one in the mirror doesn't take long.
venomballistics
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the Glock is a decent gun ... I personally eliminate them for these reasons however.
I like a proper mechanical safety to stand between the firing pin and a whole world full of stupidity, to include my own.
I like a proper mechanical safety to stand between the firing pin and a whole world full of stupidity, to include my own.
nogoodnamesleft
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That's a really good tip right there. Thank you.
On a side note, I've got the ambi thumb safety on my M&P .45 ... I notice about 90% of the time the holster flips down the safety ... any way I can prevent this?
TIA
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Everyone I know raves about Glock. That's exactly why I wouldn't carry one.
imjin138
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WOW, I own several Glocks and it is always my biggest concern. It is one of the reasons i bought an M&P with thumb safety.
Galco belt slide holsters are not cheap nor are they poorly made. They are made for the Glock that was shown. Whether or not it was a correct holster for his Glock is unknown. Galco, from my experience in dealing with them would most likely have sent a replacement had they been notified.
I could be wrong here but, I suspect that someone if not the owner, had softened the leather to ease drawing and it went too far. The other option is using a holster that was not correct for the gun or a combination of both.
I am totally confident that if the Galco Belt slide holster was indeed a correct holster for the model of Glock that was being used ,that this failure would not have happened.
Randy
I could be wrong here but, I suspect that someone if not the owner, had softened the leather to ease drawing and it went too far. The other option is using a holster that was not correct for the gun or a combination of both.
I am totally confident that if the Galco Belt slide holster was indeed a correct holster for the model of Glock that was being used ,that this failure would not have happened.
Randy
safearm
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It wasn't a failure of the gun, but of the holster. It looks like the holster is well used, and after enough use, even the best quality holsters will begin to stretch. It appears that this was the case, and between the stretch of the leather at the mouth of the holster, and perhaps a sloppy or inattentive holstering, it was a set up for an unintentional (there is no such thing as an accidental) discharge.
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I have been curious if the Blackhawk Serpa holsters could do the same thing at some point. Wear can creep up pretty fast on a daily carry rig. I used to have to wear a deep cover concealment holster that had stitching coming loose on it. I don't even know when it started but I sure got a new one when I found it. That made me start checking the belt and holster each time I put it on the same as checking the gun each time. Some things that should be obvious just aren't at first until we learn the hard way. I would have been up creek if that M9 had fallen out of my pants. Such is life.
Before we continue to burn the OP, I bet more than a few of us go home and check our own leather and see some questionable things.
Before we continue to burn the OP, I bet more than a few of us go home and check our own leather and see some questionable things.
I would like to thank the young man for showing us his problem. I have not checked the fit of my Glock into it's Galco yet!! I'm not sure had this happened to me I would have told this forum. I'm heading to the closet as soon as I finish this. His problem may save one of our lives.
I am not a Glock fan, but this "discharge" has nothing to do with it being a Glock. Any striker fired gun, SW, XD etc would have fired if the the leather protruded into the trigger.doe he mention if it is a stock trigger?
The guy shouldn't have that pointed stick in his pocket either.
Might poke his eye out
The guy shouldn't have that pointed stick in his pocket either.
Might poke his eye out
armenius
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As ugly as they may be,I don'tthink this would happen with an inexpensive Glock plastic holster.I used one for years,even in tree stands without a problem.
I'd like to say thanks to the poster MGJohn for bringing this to the table as I never considered checking my holsters once I see that they are fitting properly after purchase...this brings light to a potential accident with wear on older equipment and I for one appreciate him bringing it up. I have an Uncle Mikes I like to use around the farm a lot and see that it is also getting soft in the same area...time for replacement I think.
Hope your damage heal OK and everything works out for you.
Thanks!
Hope your damage heal OK and everything works out for you.
Thanks!
That cheap $10 holster has been the best non-duty holster I have used for my Glock. My 27 rides in one every day and has for years. No wear, no issues, conceals well for an OWB holster.
As to the discharge, we have had several officers claim that their negligent discharges were the fault of their holsters and the snap catching the trigger. I have tried to duplicate that with the Safariland rigs we used to carry and an unloaded M22 and couldn't without having my finger also in the trigger guard. ...
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USAF385
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Wow. He was lucky. This just goes to show you need to be sure to keep things away from the trigger and you'll be fine... this includes fingers and misshapen holsters.....
Good thing he wasn't carrying appendix.
Good thing he wasn't carrying appendix.
smith revolver cop
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I've always been confused by all the "hype" about the Glock "safe action" trigger mechanism. The bottom line is if the trigger gets pulled (or pushed) back, including the center lever, the gun goes off. Period. Other than maybe not going off if you drop it, I've never figured out how it is considered such as "safe action."
An officer on my PD had a holster-induced AD a few years ago with a G22. He was using a Shooting Systems holster (previously known by the less politically correct name "Assault Systems"). It is a thumb break style with a velcro adjustable strap for differing size semi-autos. That strap became a little sloppy with age and found its way into the trigger guard and if everything goes wrong when re-holstering the gun goes bang. Luckily, the officer was not injured. We were able to duplicate this, with an empty gun of course. A call was made to Shooting Systems who provided an upgrade strap that was reinforced to be more stiff and more difficult to accidentally find its way into the trigger guard. But the lesson is to pay attention to holster wear and chuck anything that compromises the trigger upon re-holstering.
CAJUNLAWYER
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This ought to be a sticky in the M&P & SIgma sub forums as this can happen to any striker fired pistol. This is also the reason I gor my 9 with the manual safety
scooter123
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That was a huge FAIL on the part ofthat gun owner. I'll bet the he's set that holster on a belt daily and to not see that crease developing was inexcuseable. However, once the lawsuits start I'll bet you'll never hear him admit it.
This is why I don't like striker fired guns with only a trigger safety. My Springfield XDm has a grip safety in addition to the trigger safety and you can hammer the XDm into a holster and if you don't depress the grip safety it won't fire. Another plus is that in addition to the trigger, the slide is also locked by the grip safety so it can't be pushed too far out of battery by a tight holster. However, I don't carry my XDm, it's basically for HD or range use.
My carry choice is a Sig P239 with the DA/SA trigger. With that one I use the same habit developed with a revolver, that is a thumb on the hammer when holstering, if I feel that hammer starting to move I know I need to stop and see what's snagged the trigger.
This is why I don't like striker fired guns with only a trigger safety. My Springfield XDm has a grip safety in addition to the trigger safety and you can hammer the XDm into a holster and if you don't depress the grip safety it won't fire. Another plus is that in addition to the trigger, the slide is also locked by the grip safety so it can't be pushed too far out of battery by a tight holster. However, I don't carry my XDm, it's basically for HD or range use.
My carry choice is a Sig P239 with the DA/SA trigger. With that one I use the same habit developed with a revolver, that is a thumb on the hammer when holstering, if I feel that hammer starting to move I know I need to stop and see what's snagged the trigger.
It DID have someting to do with being a Glock. A Glock is striker-fired, and it's hard to hold the hammer back, or down. There's a reason I don't carry my Kahr. Perpster had the only right answer. Mine is first runner-up - don't carry a striker-fired pistol.I am not a Glock fan, but this "discharge" has nothing to do with it being a Glock. Any striker fired gun, SW, XD etc would have fired if the the leather protruded into the trigger.doe he mention if it is a stock trigger?
The guy shouldn't have that pointed stick in his pocket either.
Might poke his eye out
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shooboy
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My buddy had this happen to him, except his gun was an FN. His loose fitting t-shirt got fouled up in the trigger somehow as he was holstering his gun. He wasn't so fortunate as he blew off part of his finger and shot himself through the butt. Be careful guys, Shoo
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