VAdoublegunner
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I don't even have a glockenspiel.
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JcMack
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As we speak, I'm anxiously awaiting the postal service employee to deliver the new (heavier) trigger for my G26. I'm soon gonna trade off my last 1911 style Springfield and get a G21. I prefer that the few autos I have left all use the same system. I'm curious as to why everyone here disses the Glock. After all S&W was sued by Glock for their direct copy of the "safe action" system. Is not imitation the sincerest form of compliment? When I visit other gun websites, they don't rap S&W.
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Moonman
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I don't have issues with the Glock other than it doesn't feel RIGHT in MY hand, whereas a 1911 feels and fits ME like a glove.
Why not? They're foreign-made, foreign-owned. They're ugly. They look cheap and cheesy. Ridiculous claims are always being made about them. (Early advertising and promotional material was just completely off the ridiculous-scale.) The company has been involved in some high-profile, shady business dealings. Etc., etc.
Like the boss said: they are good guns - for what they are. Why should that stop us from having a little fun at their expense?
JcMack
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Why not? They're foreign-made, foreign-owned. They're ugly. They look cheap and cheesy. Ridiculous claims are always being made about them. (Early advertising and promotional material was just completely off the ridiculous-scale.) The company has been involved in some high-profile, shady business dealings. Etc., etc.
Like the boss said: they are good guns - for what they are. Why should that stop us from having a little fun at their expense?
They don't look cheap and Cheesy they look utilitarian. Cheap n Cheesy is the Smith's whole MP auto line with those stupid fish scales, and their plastic frame revolver. Ten years from now they'll all be recycled into toilet seats while the Glocks will still be in serrvice . Put my new trigger in and the extended slide release just now. Easy stuff.
Mule88
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Glock unto others, as you'd have others Glock unto you...
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At least the GLocks, don't have no locks!
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Silversmok3
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I for one like shooting a .40 S&W pistol without wondering if I get to join the Glock KB! club.
Here is why Glock is a joke in a lot of ways.
#1: Police department bureaucrats pick em because they're cheap. Not because a Glock offers magical powers of marksmanship. Can't beat a $0 acquisition cost. Paying little to nothing for new firearms makes the city & state bean counters all kinds of happy.
#2: Glock was not the first company to make a reliable sidearm. S&W's metal semi-autos have a well earned reputation for being reliable. 1911s and Hi-Powers wern't bad in their own right either. Unlike Glock, those guns all look and feel good at the same time.
3#:Contrary to image, Glock ***** up too. When S&W makes a mistake on an M&P,or a locking block wears out on a 92 series pistol, the Glock fanboys are quick to state that only Gaston's wonderpistol doesn't break. (Unless the piece ships with bad recoil springs like in the first set of Gen 4 9mms, or when the 10mm & .40 S&W doesn't support the case fully.Then its the customer's fault.
)Glock fanboys are like that pudgy SNCO who walks around the base barking orders about regs and discipline.
mjr
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The late writer and Browning HP authority Stephen A. Camp wrote that he bought a Glock 26 for concealed carry because if he had to use it he wouldn't care if it spent a year or two in an evidence locker, whereas he wouldn't wish that fate on any of his Brownings or S&Ws. Being inherently unlovable is a virtue in a self-defense handgun.
ColbyBruce
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I own a few Glocks
Two 26's, one each 17, 19, 22, 32. I gave my son a 17 & 19, and have a 31 in police custody that was stolen and later recovered. I hope to get it back as soon as the guilty go to trial or plea bargain.
The guns do not impress me as much as Glock customer service. I live about thirty five miles from Glock, Inc. in Smyrna, GA. I mostly buy used guns and take them in for service, but my G 32 was bought new to replace the 31.
Two 26's, one each 17, 19, 22, 32. I gave my son a 17 & 19, and have a 31 in police custody that was stolen and later recovered. I hope to get it back as soon as the guilty go to trial or plea bargain.
The guns do not impress me as much as Glock customer service. I live about thirty five miles from Glock, Inc. in Smyrna, GA. I mostly buy used guns and take them in for service, but my G 32 was bought new to replace the 31.
RightArm
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Bunch of glock suckers...
Silversmok3
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I used to think this way too. Then I did some reading.
If the police have reason, they'll take every single gun you have in the house. What does "have reason" mean?
To pass on an example ive read, lets say you shoot a bad guy dead and no witnesses are around to corroborate your version of events.You SAY you used the Glock 9mm on the table,but then again, you're the guy who shot the perp to begin with. Who's to say you didn't use a different gun entirely and cook up a self defense story to cover up a murder? The example I read about involved a guy who used a .380 in self defense. The police recovered two casings, but the bad guy had 4 holes in him. The hapless homeowner had his collection confiscated and tested to verify the gun he said he used was the only one. Later investigation turned out that the missing casing was in the homeowner's pants cuff, and the 4th hole was an exit wound.
That's just from an investigative standpoint. In some states, like Mass., ownership & possession of firearms requires a permit. Being investigated by the fuzz disqualifies the owner for the permit, resulting in having all of one's weapons confiscated for the duration of the investigation.Depending on where one lives, a Browning Hi-Power is just as much risk of being seized in the safe as it does on the hip after a shooting.
The third wild card is if a owner has the misfortune of living in a district with an anti-gun police cheif or superintendant. It is not unheard of for senior police leadership to order all weapons in the home seized to ensure the shooter can't cause further "trouble" during the investigation. In some cases the Cheif LEO just doesn't like the idea of Joe Homeowner having guns at all, and they don't care about leaving someone disarmed for a reprisal attack. As the wiseguy might say, its not his problem.
May as well carry what you like. Its completely possible you'll lose your collection anyway, regardless of how disposable the piece on your hip may be.
Drop your rocks and grab your Glocks!! I have to confess as it's good for the soul. I've had Glocks in the past and the worse one without fail was the G30SF. It did ok for the first 300 rounds and then went to pot...FTF, FTRTB issues. Even after turning it over to a Glock "armorer" it still wouldn't run so, it got sold.
I do have a Gen3 G19 and it's not near as purdy as my 4516-1 but it does good, I'm bound to say it. The triggers are horrendous and IMHO, they're the most unsafe pistols on the planet. That little "dog pecker" trigger safety is no safety at all. Who's going to grab the sides of the trigger with thumb and index finger and try to fire it?
I do have a Gen3 G19 and it's not near as purdy as my 4516-1 but it does good, I'm bound to say it. The triggers are horrendous and IMHO, they're the most unsafe pistols on the planet. That little "dog pecker" trigger safety is no safety at all. Who's going to grab the sides of the trigger with thumb and index finger and try to fire it?
Two 26's, one each 17, 19, 22, 32. I gave my son a 17 & 19, and have a 31 in police custody that was stolen and later recovered. I hope to get it back as soon as the guilty go to trial or plea bargain.
The guns do not impress me as much as Glock customer service. I live about thirty five miles from Glock, Inc. in Smyrna, GA. I mostly buy used guns and take them in for service, but my G 32 was bought new to replace the 31.
Employee discounts?
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Lots of you guys want to diss glock, but I wonder how many of you have shot them. I love my 19 and it's my carry piece.
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Totally respect that. I was a Glock man for many years. But when I held and fired an M&P for the first time it was like coming out of a 25 year coma. I sold all my Glocks and converted to M&P. I have never regretted it. Smith hit a home run with this line. If you have watched the gun market over the last couple of years, the M&P has blown Glock away in sales to both LEO'S and civilians.
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JaPes
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G17 G4 & G19 G4 owner here.
The issue isn't that Glock isn't a good, reliable pistol. The issue is that for Glock, ergonomics isn't high on the priority list.
The Gen4 backstrap system is half-hearted attempt to keep up with other manufacturers.
I shoot my Glocks well. I am accurate with both of them. I like to shoot my M&P 9 more because it sits better in the hand.
I never understood why people compared the grip of a Glock to holding a 2X4 until I held a M&P semi auto pistol.
The more my Glocks sit unused, the more tempted I am to trade them away.
I've been shooting Glocks for over 15 years. Every single one of them has been superlative in function without exception regardless of the ammunition used. I can't say this about other brands of pistols. The trigger is very good. It is not a glass rod type break. It is very much like a good quality double-action. The safety is all anyone needs. If they don't stick their finger in the trigger guard, the gun will not go off whether they are pointing it at a target or holstering the weapon, etc.
As to function/durability, the Glock is simply remarkable. There are other pistols that can do as well, but none are as so broadly proven to do so as such a cost effective price. Reports of case/chamber failures are not to me a concern for the same reason I am not concerned about concerns of some at the problems of IL in S&W. They are rooted primarily in emotion and not born out in fact. Of real significance is that the Glock pistol weighs less fully loaded with a larger capacity than many competitors that feature steel/aluminum frames.
Glock has done a very good job of taking over the police/civilian market. Yesterday I was at the range. In the store gun case were a variety of pistols. All the other brands put together on display about equaled the number of Glocks that were displayed. The Glocks were a little less expensive. That is always a good thing, for private persons and for police officers.
Looks are entirely in the eye of the beholder. Many of us came of age when the only choices were revolvers and pistols based on the designs of the pre-WWII era. At that time few considered the 1911 a beautiful pistol. In a similar way, few considered the 1903 or M-1 Garand anything except utilitarian. Nowadays that view has greatly changed. But, a new generation looks on them as relics. Those folks greatly appreciate and enjoy the AR-15 and similar more recent designs. It is the exact same with the Glock. It is a game changing design which some folks embrace while others recoil. In terms of feel, etc., that is entirely predicated on the user's experience. Those who learn the Glock are not hindered by prior experience with other designs. The dominance of the Glock helps make that a reality. Competitive designs must play catch-up.
If push comes to shove and I face a bad/dangerous SD/HD situation, I want something in my hand that will give me the best chance possible. Just about any modern handgun with quality ammunition will be fine. But if I have a choice, I will grab a Glock G-17 or G-22 or G-21.
As to function/durability, the Glock is simply remarkable. There are other pistols that can do as well, but none are as so broadly proven to do so as such a cost effective price. Reports of case/chamber failures are not to me a concern for the same reason I am not concerned about concerns of some at the problems of IL in S&W. They are rooted primarily in emotion and not born out in fact. Of real significance is that the Glock pistol weighs less fully loaded with a larger capacity than many competitors that feature steel/aluminum frames.
Glock has done a very good job of taking over the police/civilian market. Yesterday I was at the range. In the store gun case were a variety of pistols. All the other brands put together on display about equaled the number of Glocks that were displayed. The Glocks were a little less expensive. That is always a good thing, for private persons and for police officers.
Looks are entirely in the eye of the beholder. Many of us came of age when the only choices were revolvers and pistols based on the designs of the pre-WWII era. At that time few considered the 1911 a beautiful pistol. In a similar way, few considered the 1903 or M-1 Garand anything except utilitarian. Nowadays that view has greatly changed. But, a new generation looks on them as relics. Those folks greatly appreciate and enjoy the AR-15 and similar more recent designs. It is the exact same with the Glock. It is a game changing design which some folks embrace while others recoil. In terms of feel, etc., that is entirely predicated on the user's experience. Those who learn the Glock are not hindered by prior experience with other designs. The dominance of the Glock helps make that a reality. Competitive designs must play catch-up.
If push comes to shove and I face a bad/dangerous SD/HD situation, I want something in my hand that will give me the best chance possible. Just about any modern handgun with quality ammunition will be fine. But if I have a choice, I will grab a Glock G-17 or G-22 or G-21.
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