Glock vs. M&P-yup. I'm askin' it.

Just because one brand of firearm has good qualities it doesn't diminish the quality of a different brand. They each stand on their own merit. I always find it interesting when a positive post about one brand of firearm brings the criticism of others who prefer a different brand.

Having said that, I'm a big fan of GLOCK firearms. The only M&P I own is a Shield 9mm. Why the Shield? That is because GLOCK doesn't make a single stack 9mm.

Does that make the M&P line any less of a firearm? Nope... I just like the feel, the trigger, and the available accessories for my GLOCKs. Additionally, as a retired military member I am eligible for GLOCK's "Blue Label" discount program. This means I can get one for $80-$100 below average retail. I've yet to see S&W offer me a similar discount.

With regard to reliability, I've never had any of my GLOCKs experience a malfunction. That is after owning eight guns with the first purchased in 1996. Not a single bobble. One word "Perfection".

OBTW if it is any consolation, I don't own any GLOCK revolvers.

Edmo
 
I like both brands and pick one brand over the other for reasons that benefit me. That said I now have a couple of examples of both lines because the individual pieces I spent my money on best filled what I was looking for at that time. You could add lots of other brands to the brand pool I have chosen from over the years.
 
To me glocks are like putting a perfect carry trigger on a brick. The triggers great but who cares if it's awkward to hold. The M&P is the exact opposite great ergonomics not so great trigger. If someone could cram a glock trigger in an M&P they would have a winner
 
heekma said:
Yup, I'm asking it--BUT--it's not the kind of thread you may think it is...

I like Glocks. Good guns. Simple, reliable, accurate. I've owned a fair number of them and have to admit the G17L I owned for a while was a helluva gun. Made me look like a better shooter than I really am, and honestly, I'm not all that terrible.

Their grip doesnt suit me-I like the angle, but it feels like a two by four.

I. LOVE. THE. TRIGGER. RESET. OF. GLOCKS.

Period.

Short and very positive. Good stuff.

For those who have owned Glocks and switched to M&Ps-why the switch?

Does the steel sub-assembly of the M&P feel more robust? Do the controls feel a little more substantial?

I have to admit, Glocks feel a little cheap when I disassemble them for cleaning. One of the best feeling polymer guns in terms of build quality (is that an oxymoron?) Was a Steyr. Horrible trigger, weird sights, poor reliability. Felt like a polymer Rolls Royce otherwise.

I have an irrational desire to own a poly gun again. I'm a steel kind of guy, so this makes no sense to me.

I'm a member of this forum for a reason-I like S&W.

Tell me why you prefer the M&P over Glock or others. I'd like to hear your opinions and experiences.

Best,

Heekma
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Glock set the standard to which all others aspire to this day...which pretty well sums it up.
Glock is all about form following function...if it isn't needed, leave it out, if it is needed, include it on a purely functional basis...which is why Glocks tend to deliver superior reliability.
While I don't own a current gen of a centerfire M&P I have owned a few S&W autos in the past and they were all exceedingly reliable. Did I fire a bazillion rounds through them to prove this? Nope, but they never failed during the number of rounds I did shoot through them and that is what REALLY matters.
But what Glock has done is break down the process to it's most elemental form...which means NOBODY ELSE can do it "better" they can only do it differently.
I own Glocks and carry them...I'm IMPRESSED with them.
IF I owned an S&W M&P centerfire I would very likely be equally impressed with them!
I DO own the M&P 22 pistol which is a very well-built, full-size pistol with all the features of its larger siblings and it has been a reliable shooter with ZERO malfunctions in 1200 rounds.
 
I currently own four Glocks and have had one or two others that I no longer own. I just put money down on an M&P Shield 9mm, because Glock still does not make a 9mm single stack. I like my Glocks very much, but they are not perfect. I like them for their ease to work on, availability of parts and accessories, and, in my experience, their complete reliability.

I do not like the finger grooves/bumps, because I have quite broad hands and my fat fingers don't fit into those finger grooves well. My favorite pistol is my G19 with a customized grip (finger bumps removed and grip retextured).

I frequently pocket carry a G26, but I got the Shield to take its place in that role. I'm really looking forward to getting to know my new pistol.
 
I had a shield 40 and hated it, have a glock 17 gen 3 and love it.... yea yea i know apples to oranges but just sharing my experience lol. Looking for a new edc now so once again looking at m&p's
 
gryphonz3 said:
I like my full-size M&P 40 better than my G21SF,but I like my G23/G19 better than my M&P.Purely a pistol-to-pistol preferrence for me.I feel perfectly comfortable using either in a CCW or Home Defense role.
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I also own both..could not have said it better. Glock's are much easier to (completely) disassemble and you can get tons of OEM and after market parts anywhere.
 
I had Glocks but now M&P`s they are better looking..handle recoil much better...and with Apex a much better trigger...they have a better grip...if you have Godzilla hands you may like the Glocks...

Glock doesn`t have a single stack 9mm....

Glocks are not the only game in town now...All that said Glocks are good guns..
 
Tried a G19. Liked the trigger, hated the feel. Tried a M&P 9C. Liked the feel, wasn't crazy about the trigger. Ruger SR9C. Loved the feel and trigger. Been carrying it for over a year with my backup J Frame
 
I have one of each, a Glock 19 and an M&P 45. Both are very good, but I like the texture on the gen 4 Glocks better than the relatively smooth texture on the M&P. I had an M&P9 but replaced it with the Glock 19 because or reliability issues. The Glock 19 has not had those issues. My M&P45 has been flawless.
 
I own 5 Glocks (17, 19, 20, 22, 23 allgen4) and 4 M&P's (9mm FS, .40 FS, 2 Shields 9mm). I started IDPA shooting the G17 but endedup switching to the M&P 9mm FS due to the ergos and comfort of the M&P. I still very much like my Glocks and am in no hurry to get rid of them as they are very reliable guns. I have my Shield for my EDC (and 1 for my wife). I was EDC the G19 but found that it was a bit too wide / thick for total comfort and I got the Shield. I am VERY happy with the Shield for EDC in an IWB holster. Don't even know it is there. I know that many will say the same for the G19 but for ME, the Shield is much better.

I agree that both are very solid firearms. Both are good companies, Glock and S&W are huge names in firearms. Both shoot very well. Like others have said it comes down to ergonomics and triggers. The Glock stock trigger wins...hands down. The grip / ergo of the M&P wins hands down. SO, how to decide........ I put APEX triggers in the M&P's and now they are the "better" choice for me. The Glock grip angle and feel can only be adjusted, not changed or swapped.
The Glock breaks own very easily and is no issue at all. The M&P fieldstrips fairly easily too but is more of a challenge for complete breakdown.
I do not "see" a winner here, just a choice that will be different for each shooter. Neither is the "wrong" choice. For me it came down to comfort and accuracy. The accuracy was VERY close but the comfort was not. The M&P just plain feels better in my hand. Not even close. I still like my Glocks but for my EDC and match shooting I choose M&P.
 
It's simple. The M&P is what the Glock should have evolved into, but didn't. Both are solid pistols. The M&P just happens to be better.:cool:

I also hate the polygonal rifling on a Glock. No need for it.
 
silversport said:
except for the slightly higher velocity...and arguable accuracy both from the tighter seal...

Bill
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Exactly. A few fps and potential for slightly better accuracy in a combat pistol is not worth the trade off IMHO. If you need an extra 50 fps velocity, buy a something more powerful or learn how to shoot. If you want better accuracy, buy a target pistol.
 
My M&Ps in MY hands are easily the equal in accuracy of the Glocks I used to own, and are much more comfortable to shoot. There's no way I'd choose the polygonal rifling for a POSSIBLE slight increase in accuracy at the expense of PROVEN issues shooting lead.
Both manufacturers have a few "holes" in their lineups. Glock doesn't have a SS 9mm, and M&P doesn't have a 10mm!:D
I've owned many Glocks (17, 34, 35, 22, 27, 21, 30, 20) and they're all gone now since I started shooting and competing with the M&Ps. The M&P simply shoots better for me.
 
I think it's pretty safe to say very seldom are you going to get unbiased answers to things like this on brand specific forums. Like if you were to go post this on glock talk the responses would be the exact opposite. Same on the beretta forums, etc.
 
tactical404 said:
I think it's pretty safe to say very seldom are you going to get unbiased answers to things like this on brand specific forums. Like if you were to go post this on glock talk the responses would be the exact opposite. Same on the beretta forums, etc.
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Yeah, many gun enthusiasts tend to promote & support their favorite brands like they do their favorite sports teams. ;)

Guns are like boots. Pick something you like and can afford, or just use what you're given and make it work. Some may be better than others when it comes to mission-specific needs, established user familiarity (without time for more training), availability, support, etc ... but it's just another short gun being used for short gun tasks, right?

Guns are just equipment, but investing in the user can pay longer term dividends than the short term cost of some piece of equipment that comes in a box.

Easier for many enthusiasts to admire the contents of what comes in the box, though. :)
 
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