Governor
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I think they'll be fun, for something. Actually many things. Guns are like most anything else, some like one model, some another. You can't fault anyone for their choice, it's their choice. I can't tell you how many people asked me what the heck are you gonna do with that SW500-4" barrel...
or the Bone Collector when I finish paying for it.. If ya don't like it, move on.....
phenson
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Here's my humble opinion:
Yes, S&W is a business. They aren't the same company that handcrafted my revolvers. That being said, when I attend a gunshow, I note what sells. Black plastic semi-auto pistols, black plastic AR variants, and Taurus Judges. I have realized that I am a very small minority of today's gun buying public. Without getting too critical or getting into stereotyping, a lot of the conversation I hear around the black plastic tables is how many of this or that bad guy this particular weapon could waste for you today. I think the action adventure movies are selling lots of guns to these folks as well. That being said, I won't buy an AR, I won't buy a black plastic semi auto, I won't buy a revolver that is a poor compromise for a shotgun or a .45 colt. I buy what I buy because I know it has a history, a heritage, and most of all, workers who took pride in their craftsmanship made these guns with their hands. I really have no interest in loading Black Claw Laser Talons of Death at $3 a round in my Triple Lock and taking on international terrorists. I do like pulling out a piece of history and craftsmanship, and honestly, I do like showing my old revolvers off a little and I hope someone else will get interested in this aspect of guns as well. So, it's sad to me that the buying public has swung the way they have. Its sad to me that Colt no longer makes DA revolvers and S&W is a sad shadow of its glory days, but time marches on and these companies have done what it takes to survive in today's market.
Yes, S&W is a business. They aren't the same company that handcrafted my revolvers. That being said, when I attend a gunshow, I note what sells. Black plastic semi-auto pistols, black plastic AR variants, and Taurus Judges. I have realized that I am a very small minority of today's gun buying public. Without getting too critical or getting into stereotyping, a lot of the conversation I hear around the black plastic tables is how many of this or that bad guy this particular weapon could waste for you today. I think the action adventure movies are selling lots of guns to these folks as well. That being said, I won't buy an AR, I won't buy a black plastic semi auto, I won't buy a revolver that is a poor compromise for a shotgun or a .45 colt. I buy what I buy because I know it has a history, a heritage, and most of all, workers who took pride in their craftsmanship made these guns with their hands. I really have no interest in loading Black Claw Laser Talons of Death at $3 a round in my Triple Lock and taking on international terrorists. I do like pulling out a piece of history and craftsmanship, and honestly, I do like showing my old revolvers off a little and I hope someone else will get interested in this aspect of guns as well. So, it's sad to me that the buying public has swung the way they have. Its sad to me that Colt no longer makes DA revolvers and S&W is a sad shadow of its glory days, but time marches on and these companies have done what it takes to survive in today's market.
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To a certain extent the Governor looks like the answer to a question it never occurred to me to ask -- but I kind of think it might be cool to have one for plinking. My pocketbook is safe as long as they are not California-certified, but if they ever make it to the local DOJ list, I may go down to the local gun store and see what they feel like.
I wouldn't buy one, but if I was gifted one, I'd accept it.
GyMac
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I sympathize and agree with you. I don't even look in the gun case at the local sporting goods store anymore because the guns they have just don't interest me very much. I admire the new S&W M&P auto, but not to the point that I'd buy one. Maybe at some point the guns I'm interested will be so unpopular that I'll be able to afford them.
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What would you rather have, S&W revolvers made in Japan?
Maybe a lot of Winchester fans felt the same way "Only want the old ones" and now they are made by Howa of Japan.......just food for thought.......
I still don't understand how so-called "S&W fans" can spread dirt on Smith & Wesson as a company every chance they get...
It's not 1923 anymore and if S&W made a Triple Lock today using the "old craftsmanship" it would cost $4,000 or more, and they wouldn't sell many. Speaking of Colt, they got out of the revolver business because they couldn't stay competitive, not enough people wanted to pay $800 for a King Cobra or Trooper III or $1200 for a Python and Colt's design didn't lend well to mass production, despite the attempt at sintered parts and less hand fitting......would you rather S&W makes "black rifles and pistols" and MIM and IL revolvers, or nothing at all?
If S&W stopped making wheelguns than all the treasured old ones would go up 500% or more in price. Tell the buying public there's no more, and watch the price gouging begin, again, look at Colt prices....... Production techniques change, companies need to stay in business......try going to your local Chevrolet dealer and tell them the 2011 Corvettes are garbage, and you would like to order a new '68 Stingray and see how long it takes to get laughed out of the building......
Maybe a lot of Winchester fans felt the same way "Only want the old ones" and now they are made by Howa of Japan.......just food for thought.......
I still don't understand how so-called "S&W fans" can spread dirt on Smith & Wesson as a company every chance they get...
It's not 1923 anymore and if S&W made a Triple Lock today using the "old craftsmanship" it would cost $4,000 or more, and they wouldn't sell many. Speaking of Colt, they got out of the revolver business because they couldn't stay competitive, not enough people wanted to pay $800 for a King Cobra or Trooper III or $1200 for a Python and Colt's design didn't lend well to mass production, despite the attempt at sintered parts and less hand fitting......would you rather S&W makes "black rifles and pistols" and MIM and IL revolvers, or nothing at all?
If S&W stopped making wheelguns than all the treasured old ones would go up 500% or more in price. Tell the buying public there's no more, and watch the price gouging begin, again, look at Colt prices....... Production techniques change, companies need to stay in business......try going to your local Chevrolet dealer and tell them the 2011 Corvettes are garbage, and you would like to order a new '68 Stingray and see how long it takes to get laughed out of the building......
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Very well said, and makes much more sense to me. I love the old stuff, but ain't nothing wrong with the new. I love the S&W I know today, respect the Company they were, but believe they are still a proud and growing company. I inherited a "few" guns, older ones of course which got me started in playing and have fallen for the new generation of S&W. M&P's, Ar's, HD guns.. and now... SW500's, 945's, TRR325, 638, and when and if the Governor hits Mass... I'll add it to my list, along with the BG380, M60,686 and anything else that catches my fancy.. I shot 100 rounds through my new M&P40c tonite, it was beautiful and of course flawless!!! Just like my 3 other M&P's That's a new generation S&W, what's wrong with that.. For the guys that don't like it, haven't tried it... your loss, I'm sorry to hear it, if you are truly a Smith fan than have faith, try one of those black guns, you may just be surprised.
Peace out,
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+1 for that, most of the "new S&W sucks" crowd have never tried anything new from S&W......the Governor is the first gun I have ever heard of to get panned by the "critics" before the first one is even available.
I have S&W's from the 1880's to 2007 and love them all. Those who refuse to try new S&W products are missing out on some great guns.
I'll bet back in 1947 or so some S&W fans bemoaned the change from long action to short action......now these days, I'll bet a good number of S&W fans don't even know what a long action is, let alone tell a long from a short action.
I have S&W's from the 1880's to 2007 and love them all. Those who refuse to try new S&W products are missing out on some great guns.
I'll bet back in 1947 or so some S&W fans bemoaned the change from long action to short action......now these days, I'll bet a good number of S&W fans don't even know what a long action is, let alone tell a long from a short action.
I know I am in the minority here but I for one am happy to see S&W coming out with the Gov. I am not sure if I am going to run out and purchase one, but as a person who enjoys guns, S&W & Ruger (especially) I just might. I have never seen a Smith or Ruger I didn't like, it is just that I like some more than others. S&W is in business to make money and to make money they must make quality products and products that will sell, if the Governor is of better quality than the competition it will sell, and that is A/OK with me
tom w
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They advertise .410, .45 Long Colt, and .45 ACP. I'm assuming you have to use a half moon clip for the ACP? Why use it then?
The moon clips make for a really fast reload.
I bet a PDX1 round to the chest at 10 feet would spoil the day for a scumbag kicking in the kitchen door.
It shows a crimson trace grip. I assume it is a N frame, if so I want to get the grip.
I bet a PDX1 round to the chest at 10 feet would spoil the day for a scumbag kicking in the kitchen door.
It shows a crimson trace grip. I assume it is a N frame, if so I want to get the grip.
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bmcgilvray
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"What would you rather have, S&W revolvers made in Japan? ...or none at all?"
This is only one person's view but as long as they fail to make products that interest me then Japan is as good a place as any to make current S&W revolvers. I can not purchase them just as easily if they are made in Japan as if they are made here.
There is no requirement to be ever loyal to the company.
It will be certain that legions of fans will purchase their production any way. They will purchase whether the guns are made here or in Japan. I'm only one insignificant and small pocket book. I don't matter to the company any more. I once did matter but their focus changed. My focus did not change. Oddly enough, many who now have means to purchase traditional Smith & Wesson revolvers configured to their wishes are denied the ability to purchase those revolvers as current production by a company who once could supply such revolvers, but one supposes that is the economy.
I'm still delighted to pursue the classic traditional models Smith & Wesson once made. The masses may pursue anything they fancy.
This is only one person's view but as long as they fail to make products that interest me then Japan is as good a place as any to make current S&W revolvers. I can not purchase them just as easily if they are made in Japan as if they are made here.
There is no requirement to be ever loyal to the company.
It will be certain that legions of fans will purchase their production any way. They will purchase whether the guns are made here or in Japan. I'm only one insignificant and small pocket book. I don't matter to the company any more. I once did matter but their focus changed. My focus did not change. Oddly enough, many who now have means to purchase traditional Smith & Wesson revolvers configured to their wishes are denied the ability to purchase those revolvers as current production by a company who once could supply such revolvers, but one supposes that is the economy.
I'm still delighted to pursue the classic traditional models Smith & Wesson once made. The masses may pursue anything they fancy.
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phenson
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I own a Japanese Winchester 1885 High Wall in 45/70, and its one of the best rifles I've ever shot. It has a lot of craftsmanship in it as one can see from the wood, bluing, and fit.
I held one of the S&W copies of the Ruger LCR, I can't even remember what its called, the other day at the local gun shop and before I could say it, the owner said "I know, its a piece of ****." Makes me wonder when the guy trying to sell it says that.
I really don't care if S&W ever sells another gun. I want what I want and if they don't make it, I'll look elsewhere. Maybe Japan......
Seems American auto makers came back after the '70's and '80's and were once again able to manufacture a quality product. Well, maybe all except for the one that makes Corvettes. Hopefully my tax money has gotten them back on the right track. I kinda like my Silverado.
I held one of the S&W copies of the Ruger LCR, I can't even remember what its called, the other day at the local gun shop and before I could say it, the owner said "I know, its a piece of ****." Makes me wonder when the guy trying to sell it says that.
I really don't care if S&W ever sells another gun. I want what I want and if they don't make it, I'll look elsewhere. Maybe Japan......
Seems American auto makers came back after the '70's and '80's and were once again able to manufacture a quality product. Well, maybe all except for the one that makes Corvettes. Hopefully my tax money has gotten them back on the right track. I kinda like my Silverado.
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