Kenneth L. Walters
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How is it that a revolver can fire both the 45 ACP and the 45 Long Colt? How do you make that work?
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bamabiker
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By using moon clips with the ACP.
kytown2
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It is a copy of the Taurus Judge that came out a couple years ago.
scott625b
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This is the only gun that will fire the 410, 45 LC and 45 ACP. S&W has machined the back of the cylinder to accept moonclips in order to headspace and eject the 45 ACP. The trigger is not too bad, similar to the NG revolvers.
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Kenneth L. Walters
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Thunder Five
The first of these has to be the old Thunder Five. Those would also chamber the 45-70. Not sure that that was originally the idea but you could do it. Would a 45-70 fit here?
The first of these has to be the old Thunder Five. Those would also chamber the 45-70. Not sure that that was originally the idea but you could do it. Would a 45-70 fit here?
LittleAce
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I wouldn't worry to much about the trigger pull as I am sure Wolf with make spring kits for this model. I have lightened and smoothed out the trigger pull in "all" of my S&W's with Wolf Spring Kits with 100% reliability.
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valkyriekl
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It looks like a lengthened N-frame, so I'd bet any K/L/N-frame spring kit would work for this one, too.
I personally think S&W should've put a full-underlug barrel on it, just to keep with tradition. Or maybe have a longer ejector rod and longer shroud.
I personally think S&W should've put a full-underlug barrel on it, just to keep with tradition. Or maybe have a longer ejector rod and longer shroud.
GF
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Or maybe stomped it in the mud when it was in the design stage.
Just a thought.
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Just a thought.
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Does the Governor have an IL????
Thanks,
Dom
Thanks,
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longranger
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Yes it has the lovely and much acclaimed IL
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bamabiker
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Let's stomp the guy at S&W that thought it was a good idea to copy Taurus.
I know, I know, it's all about the $$$.
When I saw the title of this thread I thought what does "Governor" have to do with anything? Then I saw some posts and instantly went to the smith site ot see for myself. Wow... Thank you smith for not being able to come up with somthing original. First you follow Ruger into the plastic revolver market. Now you rip off Taurus. And wait for it... you don't even have enough sense to chamber it deep enough to take 3in. shells. Now it will be like every peice of crap taurus that came out a few years ago. You will make one that takes 3in. shells and nobody will want one of the older ones. They will take up space on gun dealers shevles and collect dust. If the thing even makes it that long. I will have to read crappy articles in gun magazines talking about how great this piece of crap is. How Smith is just on the edge of inovation by copying a design another company came out with four years ago. Hopfully the they have plans in the works to let the Performance Center get ahold of this fine piece cause I want mine with a port on the front and fiber optic sight.
Just seeing the promotion flyer made me sick. "159 years in the revolver business" they forgot to put "and we are reduced to waiting for other companies to come up with something so we can copy it and lean on our trademark name to sell this crap."
Just seeing the promotion flyer made me sick. "159 years in the revolver business" they forgot to put "and we are reduced to waiting for other companies to come up with something so we can copy it and lean on our trademark name to sell this crap."
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Kenneth L. Walters
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Give it a rest
Smith stopped being an industry leader so long ago I can not remember when I stopped expecting them to do anything original. So this isn't anything much different. True copying Taurus is a low point but Smith has been sinking for a long time now.
Smith stopped being an industry leader so long ago I can not remember when I stopped expecting them to do anything original. So this isn't anything much different. True copying Taurus is a low point but Smith has been sinking for a long time now.
Glenn E. Meyer
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Should have called it the SMUDGE!
The objection to the gun is that they are presented as the ultimate SD gun for the untrained as you don't have to aim them and they are super stoppers. That's the Taurus story.
However, if it sells - that's the market - like those giant burgers in the fast food joints.
The objection to the gun is that they are presented as the ultimate SD gun for the untrained as you don't have to aim them and they are super stoppers. That's the Taurus story.
However, if it sells - that's the market - like those giant burgers in the fast food joints.
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It WILL make money for S&W......and the selling point over the Taurus Judge is that it fires .45 ACP. Which isn't a huge selling point for me because I doubt it will shoot .45 ACP or LC with any degree of accuracy.
These .410 revolvers must shoot pistol ammo to stay legal, since back in the 30's there was a federal law banning shotguns with short barrels, which are now LE or military only or NFA guns. Sooooooo, if these "short revolving shotguns" fire .45 ACP and .45 LC, they are not truly shotguns, but revolvers capable of shooting .410. Like the Judge, I guarantee the Governor will have very light, shallow rifling in the bore to make it a ".45 revolver" and not a true shotgun.
I never bought a Judge because I vowed to avoid buying anything Taurus ever again, after buying 4 of their revolvers.......but I may take a look at this Governor, if for nothing else as some "artillery" to keep locked in my car when I drive through some unsavory areas.
These .410 revolvers must shoot pistol ammo to stay legal, since back in the 30's there was a federal law banning shotguns with short barrels, which are now LE or military only or NFA guns. Sooooooo, if these "short revolving shotguns" fire .45 ACP and .45 LC, they are not truly shotguns, but revolvers capable of shooting .410. Like the Judge, I guarantee the Governor will have very light, shallow rifling in the bore to make it a ".45 revolver" and not a true shotgun.
I never bought a Judge because I vowed to avoid buying anything Taurus ever again, after buying 4 of their revolvers.......but I may take a look at this Governor, if for nothing else as some "artillery" to keep locked in my car when I drive through some unsavory areas.
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The one ray of sunshine is that S&W finally did what the would not do before, offering a revolver that will shoot both 45's with out extra cylinders or other parts. Now if they would put that into a M22, M25, M26, NiteGuard, or Scandium variant with a 3, 4 or 5" barrel with no lock, they may have something to crow about. Let Taurus make 410 revolvers. Bob!
stan the man- the gun can chamber a shotgun shell without falling under nfa- if the bore is rifled- that is the key a smoothbore barrel is what makes it a shotgun- that is why the new 45acp liberator copy is rifled unlike the smoothbore originals
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