Gun Retention Knives

[YkcorCal]

So what knife or knives do you carry as gun retention aids if any and preferred carry locations "if" you care to share?

 

[Rpg]

What is a “gun retention aid” knife?

Sorry to be thick about this

 

[gregintenn]

What is a “gun retention aid” knife?

Sorry to be thick about this

Glad to see it wasn't just me. I use a knife for cutting; not retention. That's where a holster comes in handy.

 

[crstrode]

What is a “gun retention aid” knife?

Sorry to be thick about this

The OP is from california. A knife is needed to cut through the red tape.

 

[lihpster]

I keep it right next to my prisoner transfer Altoids.

 

[Grayfox]

Is that one of those pistol bayonets that was popular a few years ago?

 

[ContinentalOp]

Ka-Bar TDI Investigator, horizontally at about 12:30 for a left-hand draw, I can also access it with my right hand in a reverse grip.

I have been thinking about getting a ring-knife, like the Benchmade mini-SOCP dagger.

 

[ContinentalOp]

What is a “gun retention aid” knife?

Sorry to be thick about this

A "GET OFF ME!!!" knife.

 

[lihpster]

A "GET OFF ME!!!" knife.

So, a knife then.

 

[ContinentalOp]

So, a knife then.

Pretty much, but for the specific purpose of dealing with someone trying to get your gun, or someone who's too close for you to draw your gun by creating space, and usually a small fixed-blade knife. The original TDI knife was specifically designed as a weapon-retention tool. But any knife can fill that role. A Nashville police officer used one succesfully a few years ago when he was attacked at close quarters in a public restroom.

 

[CB3]

My “Get off me knife” if a bad guy is grappling for my gun so I can’t use it or on me so I can’t get my gun out.

Cold Steel Safe Keeper II double edge push dagger, a type of fixed blade. Accessible to either hand from its belt mounted Kydex sheath.

With a tactical vest with gear I mount a Spartan ring knife centered just above the lower part of my sternum. Accessible to either hand, pretty much hidden by mag pouches. Lower profile handle.

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[BloodyThumb]

LOL... But I am not going to point any additional fun at the OP.

I do. On duty, a small inexpensive fixed blade hidden on the front of my vest positioned so that it can be drawn quickly reverse grip / edge up as my off hand comes over either toward the grabber or toward the grabbers hand / arm.

Off duty a very dependable and trusted OTF, carried IWB at about 10 o'clock just forward of my off hand.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Took 35 years in the business for me to see the phrase “gun retention knife.” I like to use my hands to hang on to my pistol. If I can get one free, somebody’s getting an elbow to the ear . . .

 

[Execpro]

Carried an original TDI knife for many years on left side at 10 o’clock when wearing an outside the belt handgun at 3 o’clock (in uniform).
It would come in handy if your right hand was on your weapon or on the hand of someone who had their hand on your weapon trying to take it away.
Have on occasion worn it in the same place concealed when going places were guns not permitted.

P.S. it's also useful as a rescue tool for cutting seat belts or smashing car side windows.

 

[rosewood]

My gun is a life/money retention gun.

 

[Absalom]

A quickly accessible knife is always useful. But promoting one to the official “gun retention knife” seems a bit over the top.

Knives have pretty much zero stopping power. In a potentially life-or-death struggle for your gun, taking one hand out of the fight in order to try hacking away at your attacker with a small knife should likely not be a major component of your defensive tactics. Having him die from bleeding out 20 minutes later may do you no good at all.

 

[YkcorCal]

What is a “gun retention aid” knife?

Sorry to be thick about this

The retention knife opposite the carry side gives you a weapon to draw with the opposite hand if you can't draw your gun. A knife is a knife and very different than a gun up close. it's edged and you can swipe and cut with it.

Duty weapon retention

 

[YkcorCal]

A quickly accessible knife is always useful. But promoting one to the official “gun retention knife” seems a bit over the top.

Knives have pretty much zero stopping power. In a potentially life-or-death struggle for your gun, taking one hand out of the fight in order to try hacking away at your attacker with a small knife should likely not be a major component of your defensive tactics. Having him die from bleeding out 20 minutes later may do you no good at all.

I guess you have never seen a skilled knife fighter's work then.

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[ContinentalOp]

A quickly accessible knife is always useful. But promoting one to the official “gun retention knife” seems a bit over the top.

Knives have pretty much zero stopping power. In a potentially life-or-death struggle for your gun, taking one hand out of the fight in order to try hacking away at your attacker with a small knife should likely not be a major component of your defensive tactics. Having him die from bleeding out 20 minutes later may do you no good at all.

Then you don't understand the purpose. It's not meant to stop the attacker in his tracks. It's meant to get them off you and create enough space so you can draw your gun. You may want to check out some of Craig Douglas' work.

 

[ContinentalOp]

I guess you have never seen a skilled knife fighter's work then.

While a good point, it again misses the purpose. They're designed to be simple to use with minimal training. For example, with the TDI, you basically draw and punch. If you have more advanced skills, then it can help, but it's not necessary.