Gun show advice

Most of the stuff in gun shows is over priced. Once in a while you may come across a bargain, but don't count on it.
Know what you're looking for and current prices on similar guns. GunBroker closed auctions help here. Decide what the maximum you'll pay is and try to stick to it.
Of course when you're standing there with your dream gun in your hand and the price is over your max, then you have to make a decision. :rolleyes:
 
Another vote for not passing up a decent deal on a desired model. If more than casually interested in something I always ask myself "Will I kick myself later if I pass on it and it sells to another?" A few years ago I came across a 4" 617-4 within the first few minutes of the doors opening at the monthly show. It was the first one I had a chance to handle and I knew they were desirable from my readings here. When I also saw the original box on the table I knew it wouldn't last long. After a friendly and fair negotiation we did the paperwork and I continued on through the show. I saw nothing else that needed to go home with me so I'm glad I struck while the iron was hot. And you know what? I haven't seen another one there since.

Todd
 

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My two cents:

If you find a gun you *really* want, that you can afford, but that—after negotiating—is still priced a bit more than you’d like to pay, just buy the darned thing.

By the same token, a good price on a gun you don’t want is rarely a bargain.

Finally, don’t be afraid to go home empty-handed.
 
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I just returned from the Reno gun show. The first time I went about +25 years ago I think I'd spent all my money in the 1st 15 minutes. So my suggestion is walk all the way through before you whip out the cash.

BTW, I found these two guns - one at a great price and the other, I wouldn't have bought had I not resisted the impulse to buy something else first.

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I passed on a full sized SKS for $450.00 and found the carbine for $399.00. The Savage came after passing on a lesser condition one.

Bring a note pad to write down table locations. ;)
 
As others have commented, having a small flashlight is imperative. Not only for checking the finish, but also for checking the condition of the bore. I will still buy a revolver if it has a dirty bore, but not if it has a rusty & pitted bore or worn out bore. There are quite a few YouTube videos (like the one below) that are very helpful. Having plenty of cash is important even if a dealer will accept credit cards. Counting out a stack of Benjamins proves you're a serious buyer, and I've made quite a few good cash OTD deals. Since you're looking for some very specific revolvers, you should be able to bypass all of the knife, plastic pistol, and rifle tables and focus on the dealers with revolvers. This will really speed up your first pass around the gun show...just be sure to remember where the revolvers in which you were interested were located. I usually make a quick trip around the entire show and make note of tables of interest before I get serious. Don't be too anxious and buy something just to buy something. As others have said, there are always other shows.

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Been going to gun shows for many years, and has been my experience the majority { with exceptions } of the used guns on tables are just exactly that, USED ! Be careful, and look a potential buy over VERY carefully a do not be afraid to walk away. Been stung a couple times at shows, but NEVER with an online auction in 16 + years with online auctions. Good luck !
 
Best advice, take somebody with you that is knowledgeable on the subject of buying used revolvers. Nobody is going to buy wisely on first trip to a gun show with no experience in checking out the gun. You may do fine or get burnt. Don’t go with the intent to come out with your target purchase.
There is always a next time.
 
I guess I can "talk the talk" but not "walk the walk". In my earlier post I stated the importance of not bypassing a desirable gun. Last Saturday I looked at a pristine in box 3913. It was early in the show and I moved on. Later I went back and haggled with the owner a little. I sat down with a friend and discussed the 3913 and whether I should buy it. Within 1 minute another friend sat down across from me after buying the 3913. I had also looked at a 4566. It was a little too high so I ended up buying a 6906 and two tone P 220.
 
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I don't do gun shows often anymore. First, I'm old enough that I can't stay on my feet for a long time like I used to, and I don't have as many needs and wants as I used to. But I will say this, shopping gun shows has been fun for me, and I love the process and almost every gun that I have bought at a show I can remember all the details about how I made the purchase. I have walked away from some thinking I would come back and get it later and it was gone. I've also had someone swoop in on one I'm looking at and trying to decide, and I've done the same thing myself. I really enjoy them, because you just never know what you are going to come across at one.
 
Your RK gun show is in Tennessee. I go to the RK gun shows down here in GA several times a year. I see very very few used guns for sale at these shows. The few that I do see are very nice older guns (usually pre-lock) that are priced way above the guns actual value. Reminder, these sellers know what the real value of the used guns are and jack up the price accordingly. They may come down in price, but the gun is still not a good deal. These dealers are looking for buyers who don't know any better so they can make high profit margins off one gun.

You want a 629 or 686, both are great models. If your dead set on a used gun, I would highly recommend visiting every gun shop and pawn shop within an hours drive and if they don't have one in stock, leave your name and number in case one comes in. You will find nice guns at fair prices.

My opinion is that gun shows are just that, shows. You know, entertainment, not really a place to buy guns, unless you don't mind paying list price or near list price for guns. Think about it, if a gun is such a really great deal at a gun show, the other dealers will snatch it up quickly. Remember, these people are professional, your just an excited newbie looking to buy a gun.

Good luck and go with the 686 first, you will really really love it!
 
Your RK gun show is in Tennessee. I go to the RK gun shows down here in GA several times a year. I see very very few used guns for sale at these shows. The few that I do see are very nice older guns (usually pre-lock) that are priced way above the guns actual value. Reminder, these sellers know what the real value of the used guns are and jack up the price accordingly. They may come down in price, but the gun is still not a good deal. These dealers are looking for buyers who don't know any better so they can make high profit margins off one gun.



I've never attended a gun show in GA but have done dozens of RK shows, from Memphis to Bristol. I worked gun shows for dealers (FFL holders) for over 30 years. I've seen some things & learned some things.

Having no used guns at a show is a surprise to me. I have no guess why that would be, but I'll take your word for it. At the TN shows, there was/is a dealer who had 95% used guns. Rifles, pistols, all in excellent shape. No, he wasn't cheap. But the guns he had were gorgeous. (Darryl's Guns, if anyone is interested. No, I never worked for him.)

But you're wrong in that there's no deals to be had at shows. But most of the deals are from walk-around-sellers, i.e. private sales. I'm speaking of used guns here, not NIB ones. Sun afternoons are best for private sales deals. Sellers are tired from walking around, tired of carrying heavy guns around, tired of lowball offers. They just want to sell it & are willing to dicker a bit just to get home with some cash.

As for deals with dealers, those deals will always be for new guns, IMO. A big advantage for the buyer will be he gets to hold the gun he's buying. Doesn't have to be the one on the table, it can be the one in the trunk. Finger bang it, check for issues, try the trigger, etc. Can't do any of those things at a big box store anymore, sadly.

Again, Sun afternoons are best when dickering with a dealer. I always asked, "You want to take it home or do you want to sell it now?" :D

Yes, there are dealers who want to make a weekend's worth of profit on 2-3 guns. Those are the dealers who won't sell many per show, IMO. Then they whine about how badly they did. :rolleyes:

The first dealer I worked for always had the largest set of tables at any show we worked. Wasn't even close. This was in the 1990s, early 2000s. Those days were during the Clinton gun bans, ban on Chinese ammo & other assorted fun games. :mad:

But the next dealer I worked for was something else. He was a former employee of the aforementioned dealer. He graduated college, worked as a stock broker & got his FFL. I began helping him for free at shows. He had ONE table, half of it was coins & knives. This lasted about a year. Then he went to 2-3 tables & opened his own shop. Things exploded, sales wise.

Then he too became THE dealer at TN shows. He specialized in guns that no one else carried. CZ's, Baer's, B&T, upper tier Colt semi's, etc. But his trick was he got great deals from the wholesalers & didn't try to make a house payment on each gun. He sold them at a moderate price. Customers told their buddies & so forth. We treated customers like WE liked to be treated when we were on the other side of the table. It worked well.

Today that FFL still has customers coming to see him from 20 years ago. There's 4-5 times more gun shops in the Nashville area than when he started. But they know he has the best prices, so that's where they go.

Point is, one can't paint all shows or all dealers with the same broad brush, IMO. Yes, there's sorry shows & sorry dealers. Avoid those, IMO. Buyers can help themselves by doing their homework beforehand. Know the pricing of what they're looking for.

But big box stores & shops can't carry everything. Gun shows are a wonderful way to check out a new gun or a hard to find one.

My claim to fame is I once sold a Sig 210 (the reissued one) to Taylor Swift's dad. Her brother bought one as well, can't remember what. :D
 
I would never turn away a revolver missing its original stocks — but if it is, that is absolutely a point to be argued against the price.
Neither would I, you can always find a set that is either correct for the gun or suits your grip if you're less particular about correctness or originality. When I found my S prefix M57, I had to make a choice between a completely correct 4" M29-2 and the M57, which didn't have factory stocks at all and had an accessory vented rib on the barrel. I chose the M57 because it was the less common gun, prices and conditions were the same for both.

Sorry.. you snooze..you lose.
Just saying.. ;)
Agreed. I looked at a really nice 4" M27 once in a gun store that sells a lot of vintage guns. Price was what you'd expect and I'd come looking for something else, so I handed it back to the sales person saying I'd probably get it after looking some more. It was less than ten minutes and I saw the clerk filling out paperwork at the counter with that M27 lying next to him.
If you have it in your hand and decided that you will buy it, never put it back down because someone else will pick it up and it is his.
I make sure the sales person knows I am buying the gun and I hand it back to them and drag out my wallet immediately. Make it clear to everybody standing next to you that you found what you wanted.

If you are looking at a used gun, some polite discussion over the price could be a rewarding experience. I usually have a sign that implies that on my table at shows.
Polite discussion period will open doors that might have been a problem otherwise. I've related this story before, but I was almost through all the tables at a show one day, just looking for a deal but not precisely for what I found. One guy, sitting alone at a small table with one 3x4 foot glass covered display case full of folding knives and a few Bowie's......and one blued revolver. From ten feet away I immediately knew what it was and approached the guy, said howdy and politely asked if I could take a look at the revolver. I could hardly contain my excitement. He looked at me and said, I'm not taking it out of the case if all you want to do is handle it. I replied, "No, I'll probably buy it because I've been looking for one of those for several years. It's a S&W M520, only 3000 made, etc., etc.. How much are you asking? " He laughed and said "Well, it's obvious you know your S&W's, I just didn't want a lot of yo-yo's getting fingerprints on it that weren't going to buy it anyway". He took it out of the case and handed it to me. He'd bought it at an estate sale several years before (original owner) and it had been in his safe ever since. We talked about revolvers in general and he said he had several more S&W's at his house, he just brought that one to show off but didn't expect to sell it. Unfortunately for me, I didn't have enough cash for his asking price and he wasn't coming down, and he wouldn't take a check or card. I asked if he'd hold it for me til I could go to a nearby ATM and get some more money. He said he was getting ready to leave but would be willing to hold the gun and we could meet later if I really wanted it. This is where miracles happen and the stars aligned. He lived less than 5 miles from me and it turned out we knew a lot of the same people. I met him later that afternoon at his house and bought the M520. It had been my Grail gun for 5-6 years, and this one was unfired and in the box with all the other stuff. It also came with a Letter, written in 1980 and signed by Roy Jinks. Price was reasonable to me (any gun is worth what you're willing to pay if you want it bad enough) and now I have a gun I've wanted for a long time. He did have several other nice S&W's that I would have bought had I a bigger budget, like a M65-1 and a like new nickel M36. I was happy to have been lucky enough to have seen his display when I otherwise would have passed it by.
 
I had to quit going to gun shows. It’s like being an alcoholic at the bar. I’m gonna feed my addiction.



Phfffftttt.

You should try working them. Between taking in trades & the walk-around sellers, I would get drowned in cool guns. Just about any show I worked, there were 2-3 guns I would've loved to have had, sometimes 4-5. :(

I had never even heard of the 520 until now. I seem to learn something every time I come in here. :)
 
Not me but my brother. He sometimes encounters people in his business wanting to trade a firearm for a knockdown on the product his company produces.

A couple came into his showroom looking for his product and had almost enough money for the product but still short some. My brother being a fair person suggested that he was willing to take something in trade. The man said he had a pistol he was wanting to part with if a deal could be worked out. Right into my brother's line of sight. He came back with a Model 57 S&W. R&P with an "S" number. Exactly what I had been looking for. The man made the deal with my brother and went home with 3 hundred off the price, and in his pocket. My brother got his price for the product and I got the 57 for $400.00. The man and his wife were happy, my brother was happy, and I was ecstatic. I had the pairing of a revolver to go with my Marlin carbine. This was before I quit driving a big truck so around 2008.

Llance
 
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