Gun show lesson 15-4

[Targets Guy]

Good info to think about. Thanks.

 

[amazingflapjack]

Shoot it first!!!!!!!!!!!

I have seem bulged barrels that was as accurate as a barrel without a bulged.
I was issued an old worn loose M1911 that the bore looked like the inside of a chimney but was a nail driver. I never let on in spite of the other guys laughing and making remarks. Then at the range qualifications Jimmy was Top Gun. I never field stripped this old horse as I didn't want to mess up what ever made it so accurate.

I agree with Jimmy-and if the damage is just inside the forcing cone, shortening the barrel ain't gonna help! clean is and shoot it before you spend any money on it is my suggestion.

 

[1-1917]

I agree with Jimmy-and if the damage is just inside the forcing cone, shortening the barrel ain't gonna help! clean is and shoot it before you spend any money on it is my suggestion.

LOL, Yep, I'd have to shorten this one a LOT. I smoothed the gouges down a lot but haven't tried it to see how it behaves yet. I have a bunch of wadcutter reloads I can try in it just to see what happens after my polishing job. It has to be better than it was but it's still far from perfect.

 

[Jim NNN]

I spent half an hour trying to figure out how someone did that. Almost looks like they tried to use something hard to hammer out a stuck bullet from the rear. This is just a little inside the forcing cone.

Yeah, a squib removal job. My dad the engineer did that to an old Springfield 30-06 rifle rather than take it to a gunsmith who would've charged $25 to fix it back then. Marred the rifling. It's a shame, but may not have effected the way it shot.

The OP shouldn't feel too bad. If it's a good shooter, who cares. Or replace the barrel if you do care. You got it covered either way. Whatever you do, DON'T let it ruin your fun.

 

[gman51]

Yep I learned the hard way like you to inspect everything about a used gun. Burnt once was enough for me.

 

[daddy bear]

I have experience shooting three defective bores. My old 1911 has a good bit if pitting from a history of corrosive primers, I think. It shoots as accurately as the operator. I had a .30-06 rebore (by LaBounty) to .338-06. He let the bit chatter in the vicinity of the gas vent. There was no land on the bottom for a few inches. The rifle shot just fine, but you know how perfectionists are. After a few years, it got to bugging me and it went on the cheap. SIL has an old 700 .25-06 that has a visible bulge about eight inches from the muzzle. Said he bought it in a pawn shop that way for nearly nothing. The darn thing still shoots sub inch. Go figure??

Jack

 

[S.B.]

1-1917, you mean you made a gun deal without even finding out the sellers ID or seeing some kind of identification? I was under the impression every state required this, now?
Steve

 

[1-1917]

1-1917, you mean you made a gun deal without even finding out the sellers ID or seeing some kind of identification? I was under the impression every state required this, now?
Steve

The seller looked like a regular, he had a decent spread of parts set up at the show. He was just real quick to drop his price on this one. Problem for me is that it would cost more in gas to make the 5hr trip to try to find him at the next show than it's worth. I'm hoping he shows up at our local show, I'll know him if I see him. Most of those guys do a circuit. No, I do not have ID or documentation on him, not required. When I get the barrel replaced I'd like to give it to him at the next show as a present. I'm in a more cheerful mood now than I was. I think my total cost for this fix is going to be under $100. He can do what ever he wants at that point (if I ever see him again). More I think about it (after a "cooling off" period), he probably took it in trade and didn't notice the damage either. It's probably the guy that traded it in the first place that's the real scoundrel.

For a face to face transaction in Texas about the only requirement is the buyer be a Texas resident (and legal for them to own a gun). That does not require any paper or proof, just asking the question is good enough. If the buyer lies about their residence status and gets caught that is a misdemeanor. This is still a pretty free and gun friendly state.

 

[S.B.]

Short story, I bought a set of Magpul sights at a local show and they were fake so, I called people who ran the shows and they gave me his phone number. No gas on me.
Steve

 

[Arik]

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I like to think this wasn't an intentional swindle but I'm having a hard time believing that. Last few deals I've gotten on S&Ws have been pretty good so I guess it was about time for a stinker.

While that does suck I just want to say that most people don't get that detailed when buying, or selling, a gun. I wouldn't even have thought about using dental picks and mirrors. I look down the barrel and if it looks good I'll buy it. If something is not working for me I'll sell it.

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[johnbeaver]

I looked at a nickel 19-2 with a little wear on the back of the grip. Good price and the gun was pretty clean, except the bore. Incredibly dirty. Could not get a decent look. So I left it. Maybe a good thing.
Not saying it was intentionally fouled but....

 

[Grayfox]

I'd shoot it and see how it performs before doing anything else.

 

[S.B.]

I'd shoot it and see how it performs before doing anything else.

Ditto that!
Steve

 

[1-1917]

This gun is cursed. The barrel I purchased has been lost in the mail. Go figure...

I did take it out and shot about 50 wad cutters through it and it looks like I got all the high spots knocked down. I didn't have any lead shaving and shooting off hand it wasn't any less accurate than anything I shot yesterday. No lead buildup that I could detect. I'll try a 100 through it next week. Maybe I will just leave it and shoot it as is. Still makes me mad but I'm beginning to resign myself to it. And now to have a new barrel lost in the mail...

 

[Iggy]

Bubba strikes again,

I saw a gun with similar damage many years ago. Squib load and someone had tried to drill a hole in the bullet in order to remove it.

Electric drill bit slipped and boogered up the barrel.

 

[MygunisaS&Wrevolver]

Live and learn. A few years ago I found a 686-3 with a six inch barrel at a pawn shop. I checked it and everything including carry up seemed good. It was fairly tight. The bore was dirty and I didn't have a bore light with me but I thought it would clean up O.K.. I bought it for what was a good price at the time. I took it home and started cleaning it up. I noticed red material in the trigger opening. I took the side plate off and it was caked on the inside with what I believed was dried blood. I put on my gloves and and completely took it apart and thoroughly cleaned with rubbing alcohol and oiled it good. Then I started on the bore, I worked and worked and couldn't get a ring (bulge) that I now noticed on the inside of the barrel. I said this is enough and took the gun back to the pawnshop and demanded my money back. Oh he had to give me some ****, saying the blood could have been from an animal and a lewis lead remover might have gotten the ring (bulge) out. I frankly think that this revolver may have been used in a suicide. I got my money back and should have charged him for cleaning the gun up. Morale of the story is to always be careful when buying from someone you don't know!

 

[GypsmJim]

When everyone was using rifles or semi-auto shotguns for deer hunting, my Dad would only use his old double 12 gauge, made back in 1915. The barrel was pitted, rusty and looked like a sewer pipe inside. He bought it in 1939, rusted just like that. He didn't know it when he bought it.

He got his deer every year. They always dropped in their tracks. Never required a second shot.

That gun will never be rebarreled. I have it now and it's destined for his Great Grandson some day. Hope he enjoys it like I do - rust and all.