Guns For CCW Class

[John R]

I've noticed some states that if you take your shooting test part of the course and use a revolver you can only carry a revolver. Some states are even caliber specific.
If you use a auto in class, you can carry either.

Does anyone know the thinking on this?
In Michigan, the requirement is you must use a handgun, once you have your license you can carry any handgun you want.


I know it's the law, but why was it written like this?

 

[Ogandydancer]

I don't know about other states but, N.C. has no such stipulations. You can qualify with whatever you want and then carry anything you want to. I qualified with a Beretta 92 but mostly carry a Sig P229R in .40.

 

[38-44HD45]

I've been a Texas CHL Instructor since 1995, and I was talking to legislators for 10 years before that, trying to get a CHL bill passed. In TX, there are two categories of license, SA (semi-auto) and NSA (non-semi-auto). As noted, if you qualify with a revolver, you can't carry a semi, but if you qualify with a semi, you can carry either, and as many as you want.

Otherwise, the only requirement is that one must qualify with a handgun of at least .32 caliber (9mm/.38 for instructors, and we have to shoot both revolver and semi for qualification.) Once qualified, you can carry any caliber you want.

Earlier versions of our concealed handgun bill actually had 4 categories of license, small caliber and large caliber semis, and small and large caliber revolvers. Stupid, I know. The thought process (such as it is) is that semi-autos require more skill and knowledge to operate safely and properly than do revolvers, which could be argued, for all it is worth. What is really signified by the dual categories is that the bill was written by non-shooters.

 

[cmort666]

Originally posted by John R:
In Michigan, the requirement is you must use a handgun, once you have your license you can carry any handgun you want.

Likewise Ohio. You have to pass the course (basically the NRA Basic Handgun course) or show training by some other approved means and you're good to go. Carry a 2.7mm Kolibri or a .500 Linebaugh, the law doesn't care.

 

[OKFC05]

Does anyone know the thinking on this?

OK has three categories (deringer, revolver, semi-auto), but if you safely shoot a .22 semi-auto, you are qualified to carry anything.

It was written into a law by politicians; why do you expect it to make sense?

 

[Andy Taylor]

If you live in a county in CA that will actually issue a CCW, the gun(s) (limit of 3) are listed by serial number on the permit. I know Nevada permits have guns listed by make and model.

 

[cshoff]

Missouri treats all calibers and action types the same. Once you have completed the required course and recieved your endorsement from the county sheriff, you can carry whatever handgun you desire, and as many of them as you can conceal on your person.

 

[DaveB57]

Ditto for Utah...(any action) & the permit is good in up to 34 states.

 

[7shooter]

Minnesota doesn't have that requirement but the national retired police officer qualification appears to. I helped run the range for 20 retired police officers recently and there were two separate courses of fire...one for full size firearms and one for snub guns. One retired state patrol officer did the test twice with two full size guns so he would have a choice in carry options. Does any one know the actual rule that retired officers have to comply with in this regard ?

 

[Filbird]

In Virginia, you have only to take a firearms safety course (with NO live fire requirement) and then you can get your CHP, and after that you can carry whatever you like.

I'm not wild about that, actually. Some of the guys who were in my firearms safety course... I'd have liked them to prove that they knew what the heck they were doing.

Seems to me that carrying a concealed weapon is just as potentially dangerous as driving an automobile. I have NO problem with a 16 year old proving that they can drive safely without endangering my life, and I have NO problem with some yahoo with a .40 Glock having to prove that he did more before he was able to wear that thing than just read a bunch of articles in his favorite gun magazine.

 

[Spotteddog]

I can see valid arguments on both sides. The one issue that pre-qualification doesn't address is that of "shall issue" states. Not to mention the handful that are even less restrictive? But, I guess if one were truly concerned over it, they could always move to a state where it's disallowed completely. Thereby assuring themselves total safety.

 

[Crazy K38]

you know I like the idea of a practical exam, in AL you only need to pay 15$ and buy a gun, meaning any idiot with two arms and 15$ can carry but at the same time the second amendmant states all americans have the right to keep (own) and bear (carry) arms. I just wish the libs would get it that there is no microscopic words in between the big bold black print

 

[Centenniel]

In Tennessee, you qualify with a handgun, and can carry any handgun with a HCP. I teach the course and we stress making an intelligent and knowledgeable choice for a carry gun.

 

[flop-shank]

Originally posted by Filbird:
Seems to me that carrying a concealed weapon is just as potentially dangerous as driving an automobile. I have NO problem with a 16 year old proving that they can drive safely without endangering my life, and I have NO problem with some yahoo with a .40 Glock having to prove that he did more before he was able to wear that thing than just read a bunch of articles in his favorite gun magazine.

Then ammend the U.S. Constitution. Driving a car is not a right. Keeping and bearing arms is.

 

[jaegan]

Originally posted by flop-shank:
Then ammend the U.S. Constitution. Driving a car is not a right. Keeping and bearing arms is.

I never make that suggestion. They might actually do it.

 

[sumo61]

I just went thru my CCW instructors class for the state of Missouri. The law states you must be proficient with both a revolver and a semi. But you only have to qualify with either one on a target at 7 yards.
To be proficient it could take at little as 5 rounds if the instructor thinks you know how to handle the gun.

 

[jag312]

Originally posted by Lucky Derby:
If you live in a county in CA that will actually issue a CCW, the gun(s) (limit of 3) are listed by serial number on the permit.

Some counties will restrict it to fewer guns. The Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office limits the permit to two guns; no rimfire firearms and no single action revolvers.

 

[flop-shank]

Originally posted by jaegan:

Originally posted by flop-shank:
Then ammend the U.S. Constitution. Driving a car is not a right. Keeping and bearing arms is.

I never make that suggestion. They might actually do it.

Na, they'll do their dirty work with activist judges.

 

[glypnir]

I thought that a .22 semi auto would be sufficient for the exam in Texas, but no, it's got to be bigger. I think that .32 is the minimum, but don't quote me.

So I bought a 9 mm M&P.

It was a good excuse.

I normally carry a 640-3.