Guns for Sale Photo's-purposely avoiding showing lock?

[stantheman86]

You gotta do your homework, which means 5 minutes of Google searching, or just asking here The model number and dash number will tell you which models have the lock.

For example, a 10-11 does not have a lock, but a 10-14 does. A 64-6 does not, a 64-7 does. The IL is no secret, but unscrupulous sellers on GB may try to catch a new buyer on an impulse who knows nothing about the IL by not showing it.

it's been almost 10 years since S&W started using the lock, it's not a new thing

 

[fishcreekrim]

I saw a vendor on gunbroker go as far as to obscure the lock with the angle of the photo then place a stand alone trigger lock with the gun. At that level of deception I don't do business with that vendor.

 

[steamloco76]

S&W and many other sellers do angle the guns to hide the lock in their photos.

The lock is a non-issue for me, however I wish S&W could have licensed Taurus's through the hammer base lock. Tough to see, easy to ignore, effective if needed.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Oh boy....another lock thread

 

[ladder13]

Oh boy....another lock thread

Number 8,357,678,253,132,908

 

[\\-olf]

WHat's the problem with the lock in the first place that people feel the need to obscure it in photos?

 

[Dave T]

WHat's the problem with the lock in the first place that people feel the need to obscure it in photos?

LOL - Since that can't possibly be a serious question I won't bother to answer...besides it will get the thread closed. (smile)

Dave

 

[Ashlander]

I would love a moritorium on lock threads. It's just tedious -- over and over and over.

 

[nipster]

That's why you always ask questions before you buy. Ask the dash number, bang, that will tell you if it's a lock or not, and you can bid/buy or not. Only the uninformed / uneducated would buy something without knowing fully what they are buying. At least on modern guns. Antique / OLD / prewar guns is a different story

 

[GKC]

I would love a moritorium on lock threads. It's just tedious -- over and over and over.

Huh? You mean, the lock has been discussed before?

 

[Smee78]

You know guy's if you dont like a lock thread then don't post in it, its just that simple. Also if S&W is not ashamed of the lock then why did they change there pictures? Buler.....Buler....Buler.......they know why they did it. Sales deception is BS and taking advantage of new shooters who may not know is just bad for business. Also you guys that are tired of the lock threads are more then welcome to trade in your old S&W guns for lock guns and praise how great they are. Everyone said the days of no lock guns were over but now we are having some j frames without the locks. Why stop there?

 

[Frank V]

Oh boy....another lock thread

I am kind of put off by those deliberatly showing angles that hide the lock too. I don't like them, but we are stuck with them if we want a new gun.
Frank

 

[LOBO]

What lock?

 

[handejector]

It seems to me that sellers may be avoiding showing the lock by showing the other side of the gun or angling the guns so that the thumb piece kind of blocks it. It seems like if there is no mention of it, it's the first question asked of the seller.

Since the lock is of concern to a lot of members of the site I think should be mentioned in the description or at least clearly shown in photos.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

I agree...
I routinely see this on Gunbroker and other auction sites.

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Good info to have. If you go to the S&W website they do the same thing so even they are aware of the drawback for many.

If S&W is so proud of the hole then I say it should be in the picture, long gone are the days of the full side pic and the only reason I can conclude is the lock. I really get annoyed when sellers avoid the hole with angle shots or a full shot of one side and not of the other. I to ask first and formost if it has the lock.

Well, duhhhhhhhhh...........
Up to here, people are talking about "sellers" hiding the lock in pics.
Naturally, this thread HAD to slide into lock bashing/S&W bashing, even though the lock per se is NOT the topic. Hiding the lock in ads is the topic.
The three pics below are screen captures I just made from the S&W website using the 360 degree views of those three guns. Can you see the locks? If not, I'd recommend not driving.

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You know guy's if you dont like a lock thread then don't post in it, its just that simple. Also if S&W is not ashamed of the lock then why did they change there pictures? Buler.....Buler....Buler.......they know why they did it. Sales deception is BS and taking advantage of new shooters who may not know is just bad for business. Also you guys that are tired of the lock threads are more then welcome to trade in your old S&W guns for lock guns and praise how great they are. Everyone said the days of no lock guns were over but now we are having some j frames without the locks. Why stop there?

Time to read this again, Smee-
LOCK- ..can't get past "the hole".

We now know YOU don't like the lock, but you DO like lock threads.
Don't keep turning every mention of the lock into the usual lock bash.
It gets tiresome. Let it go.