Guns of the apocalypse

And the musket won the revolution but i doubt that thats what people would chose. It may have won the west but it was the most advanced rifle at the time. Given the choice of carrying 6 in the tube and a dozen in my pocket or 30 rounds of quick reload I'd take the 2nd option. Along with better sights. Not that I would be against any gun but certainly wouldn't be my first choice.
 
I dont know--if you ever find my rotting body lying on the ground minus some innards due to a starving zombie--well--you willnot find Ak style weapons in my house. Im a Lever-and Bolt-action guy. The best you will find--so far--is my STG fourty four knock-off. If you not good enough with these--they you might as well be zombie bait....
 
When I go to the public rifle range at least half of the lanes have a Mosin or two. They were so cheap and so plentiful for so long that after the Nuclear Apocalypse I predict the world will be populated by 5' high mutant cockroaches, driving Ford Rangers or Jeep CJs and settling their differences with Mosins.
 
Arik said:
And the musket won the revolution but i doubt that thats what people would chose. It may have won the west but it was the most advanced rifle at the time. Given the choice of carrying 6 in the tube and a dozen in my pocket or 30 rounds of quick reload I'd take the 2nd option. Along with better sights. Not that I would be against any gun but certainly wouldn't be my first choice.
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it's not at all about what we want, but whats already there.
I have no doubt that the AR will make a showing. It's been crunched out by everyone for the past 15 years or so in good numbers.
Win 94 may never have seen the raw annual production rate but its seen a century of production.
I'd expect them to rise again.
 
Actually I think the best gun for that would be anything in .357 Mag.
revolver and /or lever action rifle. not so much for the gun, as the caliber. I think .38 ammo would be the easiest to find .
 
David LaPell said:
Not to nail down any specific show or movie but have you noticed how nice and expensive most guns tend to be. I mean, there are high end AR' variants, MP-5's, Sig Sauer and HK handguns, top of the line combat shotguns, but where are the everyday guns? Where are the average .38 Specials, the .22 pistols and rifles, .30-30 carbines? It just seems that everyone has a gun that costs more than what I have paid for some cars, sure you see the occasional Mosin carbine or something or Glock but really most are well beyond I would expect to see.
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The fallacy of your observation is that you assume something coherent will come out of Hollywood or the media in general as it pertains to firearms. It goes back to when Winchester 1892 carbines and 1873 SAA's were regularly used in movies and shows depicting the Civil War era time frame.

I've gotten to the point that I like to sit up and take note of when Hollywood actually gets something right with regards to firearms every once in a while.
 
PatriotX said:
The real question may be:

What will be the AMMO of the apocalypse ?
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The AR platform is like a set of Legos these days. If you can stumble upon parts and ammo just about anywhere you go that's going to be hard to ignore.

And when you go out to gather food, you won't be going on a hunting trip like today with some buddies. Every time you leave the safety of your own enclave you will be in a defensive situation. The better you are at surviving, the more likely you will meet those that want to take what you have. I can bet I'll have half a dozen Pmag 30's with me just to go pop a few rabbits.
 
The Winchester 94 hit the scene circa 1894. The West was won. The Indian wars were over. Shortly America would be a world power.

The old Krag beat out the 1894 for military use. Plenty were sporterized. The pre 1899 ones will ship to your door, and are worth looking for. Brass lasts a long time, and they will take cast bullets. They top up nice and quick.

Other than the Russians buying a bunch of 1895 Winchesters out of necessity, lever actions never made it as a main military weapon. The tube magazines were slow to low and prone to damage. They also were not as useful when shooting prone, face in the dirtm. (The 1895 Winchester used a box magazine and could be loaded with stripper clips.)

Anyway, when we finally get around to a Balkan style civil war, I am sure China and Russia will be happy to supply all sides with arms and ammunition, cash and carry.

Failing that, I expect plenty of garage shops turning out homemade Sten guns.
 
schgsd said:
The AR platform is like a set of Legos these days. If you can stumble upon parts and ammo just about anywhere you go that's going to be hard to ignore.

And when you go out to gather food, you won't be going on a hunting trip like today with some buddies. Every time you leave the safety of your own enclave you will be in a defensive situation. The better you are at surviving, the more likely you will meet those that want to take what you have. I can bet I'll have half a dozen Pmag 30's with me just to go pop a few rabbits.
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Didn't pay much attention to the past few years ..
look at sandyhook.
shelves were picked clean in hours and reloading components are still flaky as a leper colony.
What we have, at go time, is all you can count on going in with. Foraging for goods could only be bleaker than post sandyhook.
archery and the art of fletching seems like a good skill set after the guns run dry.
 
mc5aw said:
Shows and films about the apocalyptic future are strictly fantasy, thus the accoutrements of the participants can be as fantastical as the writers want them to be. "The Walking Dead" has progressed from a bunch of scavengers surviving to a para-military group of automatic weapons experts. If you take it too seriously, you miss the entertainment value. I will say that the full auto phenomenon of TWD was counterbalanced nicely last season when someone brandished a nice SKS with bayonet. The running gun battles with full auto ARs and AKs do get silly after a while.
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I think it was the first part of this year that Maggie was carrying an M44. I noticed it because she had the bayonet out stabbing walkers in one scene and in the next she had it folded. Also earlier this year they used Dale's Model 70 Winchester that's been around since the first season.

CW
 
Watch The Road. In my view, that is what the apocalypse would be like.

A Model 10 with two rounds left. A few bolt action hunting rifles in the hands of the roving marauders. A pump shotgun with reloaded shells in a bandoleer.

No fancy guns in that movie.
 
It's just a TV show meant to entertain those who enjoy guns and the drama they put into the show. If the guns are too modern then watch a western. Lol
 
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