Gunzilla vs Slip 2000

Gunzilla issue

I have been using Ballistol and tried gunzilla. Even after 500 rounds it would take about 3 swipes to get my barrel spotless with Ballistol. With godzilla I ke.pt getting carbon swatches after 6-7 passes. It just does not seem to be anywhere near as efficient.
Any others seeing this??
 
Gunzilla issue

I have been using Ballistol and tried gunzilla. Even after 500 rounds it would take about 3 swipes to get my barrel spotless with Ballistol. With godzilla I kept getting carbon swatches after 6-7 passes. It just does not seem to be anywhere near as efficient.
Any others seeing this??
 
The gunzilla I had when it got cold would get real thick I stopped using it , I think the slip 2000 would be better . I dont use frog lube anymore
 
The late great Pat Rogers introduced me to slip 2000 in one of his classes. That is all I use now. Going on 8 years now. Works like a champ in the dry hot dusty climate I live in.
 
I bought a 14 oz can of Lubriplate 130-A for my M1 a couple of years ago. There is enough in that can to grease my Garand for a lifetime.

So I decided to try it on my pistols' slide rails. A small amount goes a long way, and it feels like it stays in place better than an oil would. I got some cheap applicator syringes and packed one with the grease for better use.

I started looking at different oils when my Breakfree CLP started running low; I wanted something safe and non-toxic. I saw that Lubriplate makes the 350-AW oil that is food grade like their grease. I ordered a bottle to try.

The 350 works really well, I find it is a good all-around CLP. I've now been using it for almost a year, and have seen it through cold and warm weather.

I still use the Hoppe's No. 9 for doing the barrel after shooting, but now everything else is the 350.

With the 130 and 350 combination I like that for my CCW (M&P 357c or Shield 40) it is odorless, colorless, and non-toxic and it doesn't migrate.
 
I use Hornady One Shot HD Extreme. It seems to work well.
 
I never have nor ever will use a heat gun. I just field strip it down and lay it in the sun for a few minutes. :)

I use Militec-1 and a heat gun for the first application, then I use it sparingly like a CLP. Militec-1 is a dry impregnated lubricant, doesn't attract dust or dirt.

MILITEC-1 treated weapons have been tested and proven to be more accurate, deliver higher muzzle velocity with the same load, and show decreased wear at all critical wear points. Also, the weapons subjectively "feel" better in blind tests.

MILITEC-1 has a very low evaporation rate and will not dry out and "disappear" like MilSpec CLP. Firearms remain properly lubricated for a much longer period of time. In fact, MILITEC-1-treated firearms can even be taken out of extended storage and fired immediately with no additional care. It seems to be an unfortunate but unavoidable fact of life that the proper care of weapons is sometimes ignored. MILITEC-1’s long-term lubricating potential helps guard against this eventuality and will allow even badly neglected weapons to fire without jamming. After proper application with MILITEC-1 insures that a weapon will fire properly first time, every time.

MILITEC-1 makes firearms much easier to clean. Since MILITEC-1 seals metal surfaces, fouling and other residue do not build up as quickly. In most cases, a weapon can simply be wiped clean with little effort. This saves a lot of time and frustration and makes cleaning almost fun.

MILITEC-1 is ideal for firearms that are exposed to harsh weather conditions. After proper application, a light coat of MILITEC-1 is highly corrosion resistant - approximately three times more effective in preventing rust than MilSpec CLP. This will cut down on damage caused by damp weather, and makes MILITEC-1 especially useful for firearms carried on motorcycles, bicycles or boats.

A MILITEC-1-treated firearm can be wiped completely clean and dry and will still retain adequate lubrication. That’s right - no liquid lubricant, but still completely lubricated. This is because MILITEC-1 is in the metal, not just on the surface, so the liquid component is unnecessary. This unique self-lubricating effect was used to great advantage in Desert Storm, Afghanistan, Kuwait and Iraq. Clean, dry MILITEC-1-treated weapons continued to fire even in blowing dust and sand, since there was no liquid for the dust particles to adhere to and gum up the works. This same effect is useful in extremely cold conditions where there is no liquid to congeal and slow down or freeze the action.
 
For clarity, Kuwait was the first phase of Desert Storm, not a separate operation or campaign.

Most of post #47 was lifted straight off militec's website.

Thanks pal.
 
MILITEC-1 treated weapons have been tested and proven to be more accurate, deliver higher muzzle velocity with the same load, and show decreased wear at all critical wear points. Also, the weapons subjectively "feel" better in blind tests.
Please post your testing that shows how a lubricant makes your gun more accurate. Also, show how a lubricant makes a gun "feel" better. If you actually did blind testing it should be easy to post the results.

Never mind. I'll post the answer for you; you didn't do any testing. This, and the rest of your post, is all just marketing hype. No real testing was done that shows this because lubricant isn't magic fairy dust that will make your gun better.
 
Please post your testing that shows how a lubricant makes your gun more accurate. Also, show how a lubricant makes a gun "feel" better. If you actually did blind testing it should be easy to post the results.

Never mind. I'll post the answer for you; you didn't do any testing. This, and the rest of your post, is all just marketing hype. No real testing was done that shows this because lubricant isn't magic fairy dust that will make your gun better.

By this logic we should be able to run our guns without any lube at all or use bacon grease as lube and it should function just as good as if it were lubed with (insert your favorite lube here). You're saying friction is friction and there's no such thing as changing the coefficient of friction.
 
Is one lubricant better than another? Probably. There a thousands and thousands of pages on the internet discussing this very thought. But, are you actually claiming that a lubricant makes a gun more accurate?

I'm not buying that one. However, I will change my mind if you, or anyone else, can post a real test showing a lubricant that does improve accuracy.

No, a gun won't FUNCTION as well without lubricant. I did even know one guy who used bacon grease (not making this up) for all his guns. I wouldn't do that, but he did. Even so, function is different than accuracy.
 
Please post your testing that shows how a lubricant makes your gun more accurate. Also, show how a lubricant makes a gun "feel" better. If you actually did blind testing it should be easy to post the results.

Never mind. I'll post the answer for you; you didn't do any testing. This, and the rest of your post, is all just marketing hype. No real testing was done that shows this because lubricant isn't magic fairy dust that will make your gun better.

This was all lifted off the militec website. Mr. bonephish didn't do anything else.
 
I have used both. I used to be a big gunzilla fan. It cleans very good. But I found out if I leave it on the firearms for a very long time as a rust protector it changes to a thick gunk. Slip2000 cleans just as well and does not solidify.
That is what I use now. Both are suppose to be nontoxic.

+1

Stick with the slip.
 
Come on guys, "my wife doesn't like the smell of Hoppe's",

Man up, heck I brought the Car freshener they make!
 
The aroma of Hoppe's

Hoppe's #9. My deceased wife considered it better than perfume(of course she didn't see a SW she didn't like-which also includes Ruger, Colt-you get the drift). Boy I miss her.
 
I've gotten away from Hoppes as a primary. That "this product causes cancer" label on the back and all. So I clean with MPro 7. I do follow up with a patch with Hoppes on it. Gloves on of course. Guns don't feel clean unless I smell Hoppes.
 
I've been running my AR and shotguns with Lucas Gun oil with good results and TW-25b on my pistols (1911's, G19, SW Shield, and XD-S).
 
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