OP
Have you actually used a weapon in an SD situation.
- Thread starter JCFindley
- Start date
- Status
OP
JCFindley
Member
I would agree it was.
Twice. Simply laying a holstered handgun on the dash in front of the steering wheel ended road rage incidents very quickly.
Remind me to never try to warn you of a washed out road ahead . . .
Shot a rattle snake while rabbit hunting when I was a kid. I don't like to admit it because I love dogs, but I had to shoot one about 15 years ago. He bit me once and came back for more when I put a 230 grain slug through his head. I've drawn my gun several times because of aggressive dogs.
cmort666
Member
I-40 wasn't washed out that night...
susieqz
Absent Comrade
the idea that you can just step away from a rattler is not correct.
they can strike further than one pace.
if one is aggressive it will strike without warning.
pretty much every year i kill one that measures over 5'. they can strike that far even if you try to retreat.
also, be advised that bites are not confined to your legs.
one struck at me n missed, but he hit the fence chest height.
a leg bite just means a few days in the hospital. a bite close to the heart means death.
they can strike further than one pace.
if one is aggressive it will strike without warning.
pretty much every year i kill one that measures over 5'. they can strike that far even if you try to retreat.
also, be advised that bites are not confined to your legs.
one struck at me n missed, but he hit the fence chest height.
a leg bite just means a few days in the hospital. a bite close to the heart means death.
chopshopcop
Member
Got in a shooting in my rookie year, working midnights in a rough part of town. Over the years, at least 4 other officers have been shot and hit in that neighborhood, most who work that area have been shot at, at least once.
Riding solo, sitting on a parking lot at a T-intersection, radio's quiet for a change. Car pulls up to the stop sign opposite me. No big deal. Suddenly he throws it in reverse and hauls like a scalded dog, makes a bootlegger turn and here we go. Chased him through the hood for a few blocks, back to the main road into a lot behind a funeral home and a fire station. He bails, I bail and run to the front of my car yelling STOP, POLICE!
He stopped for a second, raised his gun and fired, I had mine out and up. His round hit my trigger finger on my gun hand, right at the first knuckle and across the back of my hand between the trigger finger and thumb.
He ran and I got off two shots, my finger had immediately swelled to the size of a sausage, had to use my off hand to pull the gun off my finger and shoot weak handed. Just as I lined up for another, he ran across the street into traffic, I held my fire because of a car passing by.
Called for backup, and chased him behind some houses and lost him. Took cover behind a concrete wall till backup arrived. Other units set a perimeter and the dog squad started tracking him. IAB arrived, took my weapon and was about to take my statement when more shots were fired about 2 blocks away. The K-9 officer was climbing a fence when the suspect came out of a doghouse, stark naked and ran. The officer got off a couple of shots but no hits, he escaped.
He eventually made home about 2 streets over and barricaded in the attic, after a 4 hour standoff with TACT unit, he surrendered. His reason for shooting me...He just wanted to scare me, he had a suspended license, the pistol, and a little weed, he didn't want to go back to jail. He thought if he shot at me, I'd back off.
We later found that his round had actually struck the barrel of my weapon. It apparently fragmented and a small piece was what had hit me. Some may call it luck or whatever, I'm convinced it was divine intervention.
Riding solo, sitting on a parking lot at a T-intersection, radio's quiet for a change. Car pulls up to the stop sign opposite me. No big deal. Suddenly he throws it in reverse and hauls like a scalded dog, makes a bootlegger turn and here we go. Chased him through the hood for a few blocks, back to the main road into a lot behind a funeral home and a fire station. He bails, I bail and run to the front of my car yelling STOP, POLICE!
He stopped for a second, raised his gun and fired, I had mine out and up. His round hit my trigger finger on my gun hand, right at the first knuckle and across the back of my hand between the trigger finger and thumb.
He ran and I got off two shots, my finger had immediately swelled to the size of a sausage, had to use my off hand to pull the gun off my finger and shoot weak handed. Just as I lined up for another, he ran across the street into traffic, I held my fire because of a car passing by.
Called for backup, and chased him behind some houses and lost him. Took cover behind a concrete wall till backup arrived. Other units set a perimeter and the dog squad started tracking him. IAB arrived, took my weapon and was about to take my statement when more shots were fired about 2 blocks away. The K-9 officer was climbing a fence when the suspect came out of a doghouse, stark naked and ran. The officer got off a couple of shots but no hits, he escaped.
He eventually made home about 2 streets over and barricaded in the attic, after a 4 hour standoff with TACT unit, he surrendered. His reason for shooting me...He just wanted to scare me, he had a suspended license, the pistol, and a little weed, he didn't want to go back to jail. He thought if he shot at me, I'd back off.
We later found that his round had actually struck the barrel of my weapon. It apparently fragmented and a small piece was what had hit me. Some may call it luck or whatever, I'm convinced it was divine intervention.
Pretty sure that doesn't meet deadly force requirements along any interstate in the country, and I'm interested in the technique involved in firing a rifle from a moving motor vehicle at a moving motor vehicle on a public roadway . . .
Last edited:
ChiefStealth
US Veteran
Yes. A "military" situation. Maybe not exactly what the OP asked. Did the firearm save my bacon? You betcha. Me and a few other guys. Sorry gals... you weren't in this one.
My late sister and her late husband hunted dove in West Texas. BIL was always the cool one around snakes. Didn't kill unless he had to. He and sister were leaving approaching a cattle guard. He saw a stretched out snake. Thinking it was probably dead he got out and walked to the snake. Reached out with his shot gun and nugged the snake to be sure it's dead so he could get the rattles. Sister said the snake coiled and BIL went at least six feet straight up. She says at about five feet he started pumping the shot gun like a wild man. BIL was an excellent shot with all forms of firearms. Sister laughed till she wet her pants! He got six rattles.
No matter....
Well, lucky not to get your finger shot off but I'll bet it hurt like bejeezes when the adrenaline died down.
Well, lucky not to get your finger shot off but I'll bet it hurt like bejeezes when the adrenaline died down.
- Joined
- Dec 2, 2012
- Messages
- 3,347
- Reaction score
- 5,573
Twice. No shots fired. In retrospect, first time was probably a case of mistaken identity. Second time, no mistake was made.
Both times I had a Colt .380 Gov't with me. I retired that piece, assuming it was bad luck!
Both times I had a Colt .380 Gov't with me. I retired that piece, assuming it was bad luck!
cmort666
Member
He was trying to force us off the road. There's NO innocent explanation for that. We'd already seen a truck load of people on the side of the road whom we'd previously seen him apparently chasing. My guess is that when he discovered that he was outnumbered too much, he went looking for better prospects, which he thought was us. Later on, we discovered that he'd done the same thing to a friend of ours, who was on his way back to Chiraq.
Do you think he was collecting for United Way?
Even back in the '80s they had sun roofs. The passenger side window even rolled down!
This was during the "glory days" of now executed child molester, child murderer, carjacker and adult murderer Alton Coleman, who was traveling the same roads on his "midwest tour".
Of course some people might see trying to force strangers off the interstate in the middle of the night, in the middle of nowhere as perfectly innocent behavior...
OP
JCFindley
Member
Glad you are still around and I would certainly buy divine intervention.
fr3db3ar
Member
Hi was a good boy who had plans to finish school and become a teacher.
Sent from my SM-T817V using Tapatalk
cmort666
Member
He was certainly on his way to school... as a cadaver at a teaching hospital.
Certainly not innocent, but I have a hard time seeing a deadly force situation, especially since you describe him as in front of you, slowing you down by weaving back and forth. Glad everybody is okay . . .
OP
JCFindley
Member
I haven't had any incidents in 20 years which may be why I willing to talk so openly about them now. Perhaps I live a more charmed life now or maybe as a relative old guy my spidy senses are more developed and avoid stuff subconsciously....
I had one that was caused by a hotel clerk making the mistake of giving a room, my room, to another guest. My wife wakes me up at 0200 shaking me and telling me someone one is trying to break in.
Sure enough someone was trying to bust through the physical door lock flip thingy. (Like in the picture.)
I flew off the bed, grabbed my 686 off the nightstand and went to the window by the door. Now what I meant to say as I pulled back the curtain and raised leveled the pistol at the intruder was "What is it you are trying to do here sir." What came out of my mouth in an adrenaline fueled 20 seconds of being awake statement was something like "Whhaadyouwaaa!"
To the gentleman's credit he very calmly stopped and and pulled a key from the door, held the key up and said, "The hotel clerk gave us a key to this room. Obviously this room is taken. If it is OK with you I would like to go down and get another room."
I nodded him off and he was on his way.
I called the front desk to confirm the story and the clerk apologized and said yes and that he was sorry about that.
Now, what adds a little humor in my mind after the fact to this event was there were two beautiful women behind him. They froze in their tracks and their eyes were as big as saucers seeing the wild man in a pair of shorts and a gun. I surmise the conversation went something like this beforehand.
"Well honey, for your birthday I thought I might ask my friend to join us for the evening and do that thing you have always had that fantasy about." It would certainly explain him really wanting into a room even with the secondary lock latched.
I sometimes wonder if he still tells the same story from the other viewpoint. Well, this one time I almost had a threesome but then the clerk gave us someone else's room and .........
I had one that was caused by a hotel clerk making the mistake of giving a room, my room, to another guest. My wife wakes me up at 0200 shaking me and telling me someone one is trying to break in.
Sure enough someone was trying to bust through the physical door lock flip thingy. (Like in the picture.)
I flew off the bed, grabbed my 686 off the nightstand and went to the window by the door. Now what I meant to say as I pulled back the curtain and raised leveled the pistol at the intruder was "What is it you are trying to do here sir." What came out of my mouth in an adrenaline fueled 20 seconds of being awake statement was something like "Whhaadyouwaaa!"
To the gentleman's credit he very calmly stopped and and pulled a key from the door, held the key up and said, "The hotel clerk gave us a key to this room. Obviously this room is taken. If it is OK with you I would like to go down and get another room."
I nodded him off and he was on his way.
I called the front desk to confirm the story and the clerk apologized and said yes and that he was sorry about that.
Now, what adds a little humor in my mind after the fact to this event was there were two beautiful women behind him. They froze in their tracks and their eyes were as big as saucers seeing the wild man in a pair of shorts and a gun. I surmise the conversation went something like this beforehand.
"Well honey, for your birthday I thought I might ask my friend to join us for the evening and do that thing you have always had that fantasy about." It would certainly explain him really wanting into a room even with the secondary lock latched.
I sometimes wonder if he still tells the same story from the other viewpoint. Well, this one time I almost had a threesome but then the clerk gave us someone else's room and .........
Attachments
Last edited:
cmort666
Member
He was trying to force us off the road in the middle of the night, in an unpopulated area.
For what purpose do you think that was?
Do you think he was trying to HELP us in some way?
Today, we probably would have pulled off the the side of the road, bailed and taken up a prone firing position.
The result would have been the same. Either he would have seen the gun and hightailed it like the Italian Army out of Egypt, or he would have put on a lot of weight, 55gr.s at a time.
The ENTIRE situation was of HIS making. There was no previous interaction, no "road rage", no words or gestures exchanged. He punted on the truck full of people, sized us up and decided that we were easy pickings.
In the end feces got washed out of his drawers instead of his brains off of his dashboard.
The decision to start things began with him.
The decision to end things lay with the same party.
- Status
Similar threads
