Have you seen this?

[D10]

I came accross this video, self-defense Shield for home and business. Probably the most useful and beautiful product for gunlovers. I bet you could travel with this. Can't really keep real armored shield at home but this looks so interesting.
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wr2tsGXiT8[/ame]

 

[Old cop]

I wouldn't trust this unless I'd personally range tested it.

 

[shawn mccarver]

Reminds me of the polycarbonate bullet resistant clip boards sold to LE in the early 70s. The had a slot for your hand on one side. When you held it, your fingers were inserted through a longitudinal slot that ran along the long side of the clip board. Basically, if you held it in front of you when being shot at, the sales pitch was, "better to get shot in your forearm than in your chest. I do not remember that particular product being on the market very long.

 

[D10]

I wouldn't trust this unless I'd personally range tested it.

Do manufacturers provide a sample to test?

 

[hardluk1]

And its only 1250 dollars !!

No interest here

 

[Breakaway500]

$1250?? Must be made of Kryptonite..

 

[jeffrefrig]

Is that what they were putting in kids' back packs/book bags for drive-bys gone bad? I would think what was sewn into them would be cheaper since they were giving them out for free, and probably smaller.

 

[D10]

Reminds me of the polycarbonate bullet resistant clip boards sold to LE in the early 70s. The had a slot for your hand on one side. When you held it, your fingers were inserted through a longitudinal slot that ran along the long side of the clip board. Basically, if you held it in front of you when being shot at, the sales pitch was, "better to get shot in your forearm than in your chest. I do not remember that particular product being on the market very long.

It is so thin I didn't think it could stop bullets but I saw other video and they shoot 5 rounds at the same spot and none of them going through. So I doubt it is polycarbonate.

 

[D10]

$1250?? Must be made of Kryptonite..

I found some chipper shields but they are made out of metal and weigh 14 to 30lb. Plus they will definitely attract attention if you are in public or even at your office.

 

[Yaworski]

I believe that I'll need my seatbelt long before I'll need that, a bullet resistant briefcase, a bullet resistant backpack, or a parachute in a tall building.

 

[2152hq]

Reminds me of the polycarbonate bullet resistant clip boards sold to LE in the early 70s. The had a slot for your hand on one side. When you held it, your fingers were inserted through a longitudinal slot that ran along the long side of the clip board. Basically, if you held it in front of you when being shot at, the sales pitch was, "better to get shot in your forearm than in your chest. I do not remember that particular product being on the market very long.

I think Safariland sold those.

 

[Echo40]

Body Armor is so ridiculously overpriced... I've seen videos of folks making cheap, DIY body armor out of ceramic tile and other household items which seem to work just as well, and won't cost you hundreds or even thousands of dollars.

I'm not kidding, if I felt the need to wear body armor, then I'd honestly sooner make my own with duct tape and ceramic tile then coat it with Flexseal for an "anti-spall coating" than purchase some. The prices they charge are absolute highway robbery.

 

[noonster]

I dunno… pretty high coolness factor… for them with disgressional $$$.

 

[D10]

Body Armor is so ridiculously overpriced... I've seen videos of folks making cheap, DIY body armor out of ceramic tile and other household items which seem to work just as well, and won't cost you hundreds or even thousands of dollars.

I'm not kidding, if I felt the need to wear body armor, then I'd honestly sooner make my own with duct tape and ceramic tile then coat it with Flexseal for an "anti-spall coating" than purchase some. The prices they charge are absolute highway robbery.

I was thinking just like you and went and got a box of best tiles at our locak flooring store. Then I put enitre box and shot with .45 acp. Yes it stopped the bullet but every tile was broken so there was nothing to stop second bullet. Bigger problem is I would not be able to cary 16x24 size tiles, box of 12x12 tiles was pretty heavy already.

 

[JH1951]

I will opt for the "tactical suit" that John Wick used.

 

[D10]

I will opt for the "tactical suit" that John Wick used.

I would too but I can't sleep in a suit and we in Florida prefer t-shirts and light clothing. I don't even go to work in a suit.

 

[Rustyt1953]

If duct tape and ceramic plates were good enough for Gecko45 then they are good enough for me.

 

[D10]

If duct tape and ceramic plates were good enough for Gecko45 then they are good enough for me.

I respect your approach but I like guns because of their mechanical sophistication and beauty and I look at everything gun-related from the same perspective. If I liked tiles and duct tape I would be collecting hammers. Nothing against hammers
This is a S&W forum and perhaps I would not be incorrect to say that most people like S&W because of their revolvers and because they function great. I would never duct tape my revolver, especially Armored Shield that is used for saving someone's life from a bullet.

 

[RCL-09]

Snazzy advertising for, imo, an overpriced item.

Such ballistic panels have been around for a long time and can be had in a variety of shapes and up to Lev. IV rating. I know and have several backpack panels that are Lev. III-A. They basically could be used any way one wants as all they are is rectangular panels. The "designer" and "wall art" aspect is somewhat new and an interesting concept.

The armor business has boomed over the years and is full of good products but also flooded with garbage. The play on wording for NIJ "certification" is imaginative to say the least. NIJ "compliance" or "meets NIJ standards" and other such verbiage is meant to fool customers to think it is NIJ Certified when it is not. Very often the products do not come close to what they claim their rating is.

If it doesn't say NIJ Certified and contain the NIJ stamp/watermark is should be considered suspect.

I searched the website of the panels cited in the OP and did not find any mention of the product(s) being "NIJ Certified". I also could not find anything on "UL 7.52-certified level 3 and 4 ballistic panels"

 

[RCL-09]

Body Armor is so ridiculously overpriced... I've seen videos of folks making cheap, DIY body armor out of ceramic tile and other household items which seem to work just as well, and won't cost you hundreds or even thousands of dollars.

I'm not kidding, if I felt the need to wear body armor, then I'd honestly sooner make my own with duct tape and ceramic tile then coat it with Flexseal for an "anti-spall coating" than purchase some. The prices they charge are absolute highway robbery.

I don't necessarily agree about the pricing. I do have an issue with the 5 year life they warranty as being too short.

As to tiles and flex seal, you could also use a couple of phone books taped together. At least they would provide multi hit protection...

 

[RCL-09]

Wanted to add that NIJ has just done a complete revamping of their ratings and come up with new ratings related to ballistic protection.

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/307347.pdf

It will be interesting to see what the transition is like.

 

[D10]

Snazzy advertising for, imo, an overpriced item.

Such ballistic panels have been around for a long time and can be had in a variety of shapes and up to Lev. IV rating. I know and have several backpack panels that are Lev. III-A. They basically could be used any way one wants as all they are is rectangular panels. The "designer" and "wall art" aspect is somewhat new and an interesting concept.

The armor business has boomed over the years and is full of good products but also flooded with garbage. The play on wording for NIJ "certification" is imaginative to say the least. NIJ "compliance" or "meets NIJ standards" and other such verbiage is meant to fool customers to think it is NIJ Certified when it is not. Very often the products do not come close to what they claim their rating is.

If it doesn't say NIJ Certified and contain the NIJ stamp/watermark is should be considered suspect.

I searched the website of the panels cited in the OP and did not find any mention of the product(s) being "NIJ Certified". I also could not find anything on "UL 7.52-certified level 3 and 4 ballistic panels"

I spent several months searching for a shield that is light and same time does not have a scary look. I found this product. Take a look at my posts, I must be advertising S&W in all my previous posts.
As far as NIJ I did call the company and the answer I got was: this is a new product, in 2014 NIJ changed their classification and as it stands there is not a single company that has New NIJ certification, They only have old Level IIIA or Level IV old ratings. These ratings no longer be used in 2024 as I was told. So obviously new company can't have NIJ certification.
If you know other options that can look good at home or office environment and not look like police shield please post the link.

 

[RCL-09]

I spent several months searching for a shield that is light and same time does not have a scary look. I found this product. Take a look at my posts, I must be advertising S&W in all my previous posts.
As far as NIJ I did call the company and the answer I got was: this is a new product, in 2014 NIJ changed their classification and as it stands there is not a single company that has New NIJ certification, They only have old Level IIIA or Level IV old ratings. These ratings no longer be used in 2024 as I was told. So obviously new company can't have NIJ certification.
If you know other options that can look good at home or office environment and not look like police shield please post the link.

Their claim on the NIJ certification is inaccurate. That in itself makes me Leary.

Compliant Products List: Ballistic Resistant Body Armor | National Institute of Justice

We purchase nothing but NIJ Certified body armor. No certification, no purchase.

As to other options, it depends on what you want. There are plenty of different inserts for backpacks, binders briefcases, etc. There are also standard rectangular and square panels.

As to the "designer" panels with pretty art on them, don't know of any.

Edited to add: As Old cop said above "I wouldn't trust this unless I'd personally range tested it."

 

[D10]

I don't necessarily agree about the pricing. I do have an issue with the 5 year life they warranty as being too short.

As to tiles and flex seal, you could also use a couple of phone books taped together. At least they would provide multi hit protection...

Yes, warranty is important for me, and products I found that had longer warranty they were made out of metal. I see this product as a furniture piece that is used every day. I can't imagine how any material surface can last for 10 years if you use them every day. The couch I got for my office lasted 2 years and the manufacturer only had 2 year warranty. Armored Shield police have they get almost no use at all and are made out of metal. Obviously, they can last 10 years.

 

[Rustyt1953]

I shoulda used stick figures.

 

[RCL-09]

Yes, warranty is important for me, and products I found that had longer warranty they were made out of metal. I see this product as a furniture piece that is used every day. I can't imagine how any material surface can last for 10 years if you use them every day. The couch I got for my office lasted 2 years and the manufacturer only had 2 year warranty. Armored Shield police have they get almost no use at all and are made out of metal. Obviously, they can last 10 years.

It all depends on use and care.

Steel (AR500) plates go anywhere from 5 to 10 years.

Ceramic go for 5 years.

Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene and other materials seem to be mostly a 5 years but I have heard some go to 7.

Any vest or other product you take care of will outlast its warranty. Heat, cold, moisture, dropping, etc. can shorten the life. By how much, I can't say, but a cracked ceramic vest/plate would not be something I would recommend using. A polyethylene that spends a couple of summers in a trunk in Tucson, would also be something I would be suspect of. Doesn't mean they would fail, but I'm not willing to accept that risk.

 

[D10]

Their claim on the NIJ certification is inaccurate. That in itself makes me Leary.

Compliant Products List: Ballistic Resistant Body Armor | National Institute of Justice

We purchase nothing but NIJ Certified body armor. No certification, no purchase.

As to other options, it depends on what you want. There are plenty of different inserts for backpacks, binders briefcases, etc. There are also standard rectangular and square panels.

As to the "designer" panels with pretty art on them, don't know of any.

Edited to add: As Old cop said above "I wouldn't trust this unless I'd personally range tested it."

That's exactly my point, I also couldn't find anything that can be on the desk in the office or home and not look like a police shield. Obviously, no one will let you do that in any office. This Armored Shield was the only product I found that blends in and same time one can use it as a shield.
As far as the claim, I only found the threat level this shield is intended for. I didn't see that they claim they have certification from NIJ.

 

[old bear]

The simple answer to someone using one of these shields, is shoot them in the knee and see how fast he drops his big dollar life shield. Then you can take care of business as needed.

 

[D10]

The simple answer to someone using one of these shields, is shoot them in the knee and see how fast he drops his big dollar life shield. Then you can take care of business as needed.

Funny... I see an advantage If one is sitting in the office and they can shield their entire exposed upper body so their legs are not a target and bad guys don't really plan where to shoot or if your 1/4 inch leather panel is going to stop his bullet. Or at home one could shield himself instead of hiding behind a wall or chair which doesn't really stop any bullets.

 

[BB57]

Is that what they were putting in kids' back packs/book bags for drive-bys gone bad? I would think what was sewn into them would be cheaper since they were giving them out for free, and probably smaller.

Those were usually level IIIA ballistic panels made from conventional soft armor materials.

They cost around $100 IIRC.