Health and Fitness Thread

I'm almost 65 and bought into the nonsense that once you get over 50 or so it is just a slow decline until the end. Was a little chunky got diagnosed with diabetes and said no hell no it ain't going to happen. Total change in diet, hitting the gym, moving on to free weights from the machines. Some machines are definitely good.

Over the course of a year some crazy amazing stuff has happened. No more diabetes, no more being over weight, blood test numbers all in "normal" range, first time in years, eye floaters gone, gaining muscle, feel like I'm 40 again, flexibility is coming back, no no more arthritis. Knees hurt for years and that is all gone too.

We've been lied to in almost every aspect of our lives. As you get older you can be very active, take no meds and feel great. Wake up with zero pain.

No tricks involved. Just totally dump all processed food, sugar, chemicals, high carb foods. All carbs for awhile until you lose weight and get your body cleansed of the standard American diet. Basically a carnivore diet until goals are reached then you can add in one ingredient foods.

Has anyone else here had success with getting off the garbage food and meds that the med system loves to prescribe.
 
Congratulations K.38!

You are a perfect example of what our incredible human body can do if you give it a chance.

There are countless cases like yours that people at a later age have made a commitment and have transformed their bodies into a very healthy and happy life style.

Yes, we have been lied to, conned, and brainwashed for decades into believing so much Bravo Sierra about how to fix are health issues. The food industry and the biopharmaceutical complex are responsible for killing millions of people.

The transition from an unhealthy diet and taking prescription drugs should be done carefully and with a basic plan. Going from a high carb diet to a carnivore diet requires a thorough understanding about proteins, amino acids, vitamins, and micronutrients.

The SARS-Cov-2 pandemic and toxic COVID-19 vaccines have prompted an incredible amount of new research and discoveries. There are 1000s of studies and research publications that clearly show what the pandemic and COVID-19 vaccines have done to millions of people.

The amount of medical, clinical, scientific information on vaccines, diet, and health care that is available now ranges from informative to extremely shocking.
 
GnarlsR2 you are absolutely correct. Lots of good information coming out about health and corruption that hopefully the general public is waking up too.

Our wake up call sadly enough was covid. If there was a silver lining in the covid debacle was learning just how corrupt our government and health care system is. We always tried to do what's right health wise and listened to the doctors. Huge mistake on our part.
 
I'm almost 65 and bought into the nonsense that once you get over 50 or so it is just a slow decline until the end. Was a little chunky got diagnosed with diabetes and said no hell no it ain't going to happen. Total change in diet, hitting the gym, moving on to free weights from the machines. Some machines are definitely good.

Over the course of a year some crazy amazing stuff has happened. No more diabetes, no more being over weight, blood test numbers all in "normal" range, first time in years, eye floaters gone, gaining muscle, feel like I'm 40 again, flexibility is coming back, no no more arthritis. Knees hurt for years and that is all gone too.

We've been lied to in almost every aspect of our lives. As you get older you can be very active, take no meds and feel great. Wake up with zero pain.

No tricks involved. Just totally dump all processed food, sugar, chemicals, high carb foods. All carbs for awhile until you lose weight and get your body cleansed of the standard American diet. Basically a carnivore diet until goals are reached then you can add in one ingredient foods.

Has anyone else here had success with getting off the garbage food and meds that the med system loves to prescribe.
In 2015 I was over 230 pounds with a bodyfat percentage in the 30's. By 2020 I was 140 pounds and 14% bodyfat but I had some baggy loose flesh. So I decided to try to fill that baggy skin with lean mass. I restructured my diet and workout routine and in June of 2025, at 62 years of age. I tested out at 166.2 pounds and 10.5% bodyfat which puts me in the lean category for a male half my age.
According to their BMI charts, that makes me overweight.
No magic potions, meds or fad diets. I just ate a healthy balanced diet with lotsa protein and changed my focus from weight loss to muscle building.
My next goal's 170 pounds with low double digit bodyfat by the first day of autumn.
This morning I was 169.6 pounds.
 
In 2015 I was over 230 pounds with a bodyfat percentage in the 30's. By 2020 I was 140 pounds and 14% bodyfat but I had some baggy loose flesh. So I decided to try to fill that baggy skin with lean mass. I restructured my diet and workout routine and in June of 2025, at 62 years of age. I tested out at 166.2 pounds and 10.5% bodyfat which puts me in the lean category for a male half my age.
According to their BMI charts, that makes me overweight.
No magic potions, meds or fad diets. I just ate a healthy balanced diet with lotsa protein and changed my focus from weight loss to muscle building.
My next goal's 170 pounds with low double digit bodyfat by the first day of autumn.
This morning I was 169.6 pounds.
Snubbyfan, you are another remarkable testimony to what the human body can do when you give it what it needs.

My first wakeup call was at age 25 when Mother died age 61 from medical malpractice. I have spent the last 52 years trying to educate myself on every aspect of health science – herbology, virology, pharmacology, immunology, epidemiology, holistic medicine, food and diet, and the science of well-being.

Like K.38, the SARS-Cov-2 pandemic and toxic COVID-19 vaccines was another shocking wake-up call.

One unfortunate and very sad aspect about my knowledge is I have family members and a few very close friends that are not health conscientious, several with serious health issues. When, on rare occasions, I offer my knowledge or make a suggestion because I know they are not educated enough to know the facts and truth, they respond as though I'm full of Bravo Sierra.

I've learned that personal health and diet are usually VERY personal and as much as I care and love a person, I cannot tell them how to live. They make their own life choices.

I typically now will only engage in conversations about health science if someone asks me a question. Then I tell them my "disclaimer" before answering.

For example, if I answer and say "If you change your diet today statistically you will live 10 to 15 years longer." Then I ask the question - "Do you want to live longer than 65 years of age?" From that point on, the conversation either goes south or it gets really deep.
 
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I have friends and family who complain about being fat, out of shape, always hurting etc and I will tell them ways to help. Always falls on deaf ears and they keep on complaining. Some people just don't want to enjoy their later years or maybe just don't think they can do it or it will be to hard. Sucks to be them because fitness and health really isn't that hard. You just have to do it. The Lord gave us a wonderful life here in the US and all we have to do is take care of ourselves and he will take care of us.

I'll probably start another thread later on van camping as it won't fit here but it definitely ties in here with fitness and enjoying life.

BTW Thank You Snubbyfan for keeping this thread going for so long and Thank You GnarlsR2 for taking part also. This is an interesting area of discussion.
 
@K.38 Your regimen — congratulations on your renewed health, by the way — sounds very main stream to me. I think you hit all of the most important points. I would only add, for those who may be skeptical, that there's no such thing as "too little to make a difference." Any exercise at all, any diet improvement at all, will make a material difference. The most important thing is to keep moving. Stop and you're a dead man.

My friend, Jorge, is 87 and can do more pull ups and leg lifts than I can, the bastard. Drives himself to the gym every day in his Jeep Rubicon, and has a decent rendition of washboard abs. I'm giving him a little bit of an edge because he was a life-long athlete. All I ever did was sit around drinking beer and eating pizza. Good pizza, but still. He's my inspiration. You are, too, K.
 
Good on Jorge that is great. We should all be that fit when we are 87.

Years ago I shooting on the old Great Falls MT range. I was by myself until a car pulled up and two guys got out. They started setting up and the old guy says he forgot his ammo and to hell with I'm going for a walk. He walked down range up the hill to the train tracks and kept walking towards town. His friend says he does this from time to time forgets his ammo or gun and goes for a walk. The walk ended up being around 3 miles. A while later he came back on road and they packed up left. He was in his mid 90s. What amazed me is the speed he walked down range and up the hill. Dang he was quick.

A customer came in to the gun shop years ago and his friend introduced us. He stuck out his hand to shake and I of course did too. I shook his hand firmly but not to hard as his hands were pretty knarled up. He said boy is that all you got and I said no Sir I didn't want to hurt your hand. He said boy give me all you got I did he returned the favor and I thought he was going to break my hand. He was also in his 90s. Tough old guy for sure.
 
@K.38 What exercises are you doing for knee pain? My walking+bicycling+elliptical+stairs have created a slight problem with my favorite bad knee. I think I can improve the situation with some leg work.
 
I was always very active.
RollerBlading,


Mountain Biking,


Back Packing,


Rock Climbing,


And any other activity that seemed like it'd be fun including working out in my own home gym.
I didn't really have to concern myself with calories and ate pretty much anything I wanted to, I burned it off anyway.
When I met Lisa in 2000, we'd go hiking, biking, camping and rink skating.


We had physical jobs working in factories and warehouses.
One day, I started having problems with walking and kept dropping stuff.
Checked with my local Doctor and was sent to a Neurologist.
After years of inactivity, traveling to different Neurologists, Neuromuscular specialists, getting tests and treatments done. I was told that I have a condition called Multi-focal Motor Neuropathy.
A degenerative peripheral motor nerve condition and that there is nothing modern medicine can do to help 'cept get me an electric scooty chair.
The only thing that can help is vigorous physical therapy, basically resistance training and cardio and a healthy diet.
I can do that. By then both of our weights had ballooned.
Took me most of a year to relearn to walk using the muscles that still work then it was back to hiking and biking.
In 2015 we joined a gym, went to spin class and restructured our diets to get the weight off.
My wife was amazingly supportive, helpful and was with me every step of the way.
Cancer took her from me on April 23, 2024. One of the last things she said to me was, "you take care of yourself."
The rest is history.
 
I have friends and family who complain about being fat, out of shape, always hurting etc and I will tell them ways to help. Always falls on deaf ears and they keep on complaining. Some people just don't want to enjoy their later years or maybe just don't think they can do it or it will be to hard. Sucks to be them because fitness and health really isn't that hard. You just have to do it. The Lord gave us a wonderful life here in the US and all we have to do is take care of ourselves and he will take care of us.

I'll probably start another thread later on van camping as it won't fit here but it definitely ties in here with fitness and enjoying life.

BTW Thank You Snubbyfan for keeping this thread going for so long and Thank You GnarlsR2 for taking part also. This is an interesting area of discussion.
People want a magic pill to take care of everything for them. They don't want to put forth the effort to do something to help with their own health and fitness level. So many people join the gym to get in shape then quit when they find out that it actually takes effort.
 
People want a magic pill to take care of everything for them..........
When I was a pharma rep selling Ace Inhibitors to heart docs, I would drop $1,000-$2500 on "Gold" (docs who Rx a lot) physicians to do half day "preceptorships." I put on a white coat and followed the doc into exam rooms to see patients. Every time a 400lb guy would come in and sit, out of breath......"How much do you eat?" 4,000 calories a day. "Do you drink?" Never more than a 12 pack. "How about smoking?" Never more than 2 packs a day. "Any exercise?" Well, I came here didn't I. "Doc, don't you have anything you can prescribe so I feel better." "Sure, and this fellow will give you a month's worth of samples."
Nothing to add. Joe
 
I'm built like a billboard and have to use a cane to walk more than a few blocks. But I decided I was not going to be the town hermit.

I was at a pistol match at my Maryland club on Saturday and we had just finished up the rimfire portion. During the break between the two match portions I was having a bit of banter about age with one of the other members, when he asked me, "How old are you?" I told him I was 73. And with that he said to the effect, "You are an inspiration to me."

The upshot is that coming up 3 years ago I had the retinal hemorrhage in my right eye and I was afraid I'd have to give up shooting. But I was able to train myself to shoot handguns cross-dominantly and I never gave up the pistol shooting that I enjoy.

So what I've learned is to get out and do whatever I can and take advantage of the opportunities retirement has given me to do things. And never give up.
 
I'm built like a billboard and have to use a cane to walk more than a few blocks. But I decided I was not going to be the town hermit.

I was at a pistol match at my Maryland club on Saturday and we had just finished up the rimfire portion. During the break between the two match portions I was having a bit of banter about age with one of the other members, when he asked me, "How old are you?" I told him I was 73. And with that he said to the effect, "You are an inspiration to me."

The upshot is that coming up 3 years ago I had the retinal hemorrhage in my right eye and I was afraid I'd have to give up shooting. But I was able to train myself to shoot handguns cross-dominantly and I never gave up the pistol shooting that I enjoy.

So what I've learned is to get out and do whatever I can and take advantage of the opportunities retirement has given me to do things. And never give up.
Golddollar,

"I was able to train myself to shoot handguns cross-dominantly"

Wow… another testimony to what the miraculous human body can do if you give it a chance. You certainly are an inspiration to me.(y)

For many of us older guys and gals, resurrecting and transforming ourselves is possible if we are motivated, dedicated, and believe.:)
 
When I was a pharma rep selling Ace Inhibitors to heart docs, I would drop $1,000-$2500 on "Gold" (docs who Rx a lot) physicians to do half day "preceptorships." I put on a white coat and followed the doc into exam rooms to see patients. Every time a 400lb guy would come in and sit, out of breath......"How much do you eat?" 4,000 calories a day. "Do you drink?" Never more than a 12 pack. "How about smoking?" Never more than 2 packs a day. "Any exercise?" Well, I came here didn't I. "Doc, don't you have anything you can prescribe so I feel better." "Sure, and this fellow will give you a month's worth of samples."
Nothing to add. Joe
Pharma,

Very interesting and disturbing to read. I have enough "true stories" to write a short documentary.

Two years ago, I went in for my yearly physical. I have not actually seen my doctor for 3 years. I was examined by a Nurse Practitioner. They have 12-year history of my health status. My CBCs are normal, and I do not take any prescription drugs. I blew on the spirometer (measures ventilation, air into and out of the lungs. A spirogram will identify two different types of abnormal ventilation patterns, obstructive and restrictive.). When the NP came in the first thing she said was "You have COPD." I looked at her and asked how she determined that. I told her I DO NOT have COPD and that my lungs and my heart are the two very best organs in my body. What she didn't know was that I ran and worked out at a gym religiously for 25 years. I asked her to bring the spirometer back in, and I passed the test. Here's the pathetic truth…. my primary doctor (general practitioner) would have put me on two prescription drugs. I know, because my very best friend of 24 years has COPD.
 
Pharma,

Very interesting and disturbing to read. I have enough "true stories" to write a short documentary.

Two years ago, I went in for my yearly physical. I have not actually seen my doctor for 3 years. I was examined by a Nurse Practitioner. They have 12-year history of my health status. My CBCs are normal, and I do not take any prescription drugs. I blew on the spirometer (measures ventilation, air into and out of the lungs. A spirogram will identify two different types of abnormal ventilation patterns, obstructive and restrictive.). When the NP came in the first thing she said was "You have COPD." I looked at her and asked how she determined that. I told her I DO NOT have COPD and that my lungs and my heart are the two very best organs in my body. What she didn't know was that I ran and worked out at a gym religiously for 25 years. I asked her to bring the spirometer back in, and I passed the test. Here's the pathetic truth…. my primary doctor (general practitioner) would have put me on two prescription drugs. I know, because my very best friend of 24 years has COPD.
Seems like every time I go in for my yearly old man check up I'm told that I'm very healthy. Last time my blood work was described as "beautiful." I have beautiful blood? Anyway, they always seem disappointed that there's no excuse to prescribe something for me.
 
@K.38 What exercises are you doing for knee pain? My walking+bicycling+elliptical+stairs have created a slight problem with my favorite bad knee. I think I can improve the situation with some leg work.
I really don't know for sure what helped with the knee pain. I dropped about 50lbs, gave up all carbs and sugar and at the gym I was having a little knee pain doing the leg machines and the trainer there said he thought I should back off the weight and go to the lowest setting. I think with a latest bit of pain I was trying to do to much weight. It really wasn't that much compared to others but I did drop down to the lowest weight of 20lbs and do 3 sets of 15 reps. That seems to be working.
 
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