Heaviest recoiling gun you’ve shot?

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Thought I’d start a thread on the heaviest recoiling guns forum members have fired, either rifle, handgun or both!

Starting with handguns, I have two which I consider my heaviest recoiling handguns, a Ruger Super Redhawk Toklat 454 and a Freedom Arms Model 83 Field Grade 475 Linebaugh. Neither are ported which I feel makes a big difference. The nod goes to my 475 Linebaugh! I can only shoot about 6 rounds a session of 420 grain LBT-LFN at 1350 fps. Then I need a break or recovery period if you will, or I’ll start flinching. It’s a beautifully engineered revolver but with full house loads, it’s not pleasant to shoot! It recoils more than a ported 500 S&W! Downloading to about 1000-1100 fps is much more manageable.

In regard to rifles, without question, my Remington Custom Shop North American Custom 375 Remington Ultra Magnum (RUM) was the hardest recoiling rifle ever! At max loadings it’s just a hair under the 378 Weatherby Magnum. I originally bought it with the intent to go back to Alaska or African. The problem with this rifle is it’s light weight, under 8 lbs and originally no muzzlebrake. I believe the recoil energy to be 80 ft lbs! I’d previously owned a 416 Remington Magnum and shot a 458 Wn Mag but those rifles weighed 10-11 lbs with recoil energy 55-60 ft lbs, significantly less than my 375 RUM. Weight plays a significant factor!

Shooting my 375 RUM, even with a PAST recoil pad felt like getting punched in the shoulder by Mike Tyson or George Foreman! This rifle is capable of one inch groups but took an incredible amount of concentration to accomplish. I figured, it’s a hunting rifle, not a target rifle and you don’t really feel the recoil when shooting game. I took a wild boar, bison and a cow elk with it. On that elk, it was an awkward angle prone shot that upon shooting, I didn’t know if I even hit the damn elk due to all the blood cascading down my face from a scope cut between the eyes!

I managed to stop the bleeding and found the elk was stone dead. I probably needed to go to the ER but instead chose to process the elk and later had my wife put a butterfly bandage over the gash. Now I have a nice scar there. Anyhow, after that, I had a gunsmith install a KDF muzzlebrake on my 375 RUM and now the recoil feels more like a 300 magnum.

Going back to the weight thing, my understanding is the S&W scandium 340 PD and 360 PD are a real handful with full house 357 rounds but I’ve never shot one. I also wonder about the 500 S&W Performance Center 3.5 inch barrel with no porting? This is the only S&W revolver chambered in 500 S&W magnum with no porting I believe. At 56.2 oz it must be a handful!

Pics of the above mentioned guns and me shooting my 475 Linebaugh.

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I rented a large all steel 500 s&w years ago and one cylinder was all I shot. The range didn't charge a "gun rental" fee they just sold the ammo at $3.00 per round.
It had an 8" barrel with full lug, the thing was very heavy and nothing where I live requires that type of round, so I've never even considered buying one.

I have owned and carried as a BUG for roughly 15 years a s&w 340sc.
It is very easy to carry but obnoxious to shoot. Most "tough guys" I hand it to at the range do not get more than 1 cylinder through it with full house .357 rounds.
I can get 3 cylinders and I'm done. It usually splits the webbing between my thumb and finger.

The only long gun I've fired with heavy recoil was a Savage, bolt action, 7mm magnum that my brother owned. I'm sure there are worse though.
 
Does a M109 Howitzer count? The most painful longarm I've ever shot was a M95 MS carbine in 8x56R. I've owned both 458 Win mags and 375 H&H mags so I have some understanding of recoil. Which may be why most of my shooting is now done with .223 or 22 LR.
 
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My former boss had me sight in a few of his guns. You took notice when you shot the 500 S&W.
I had a Rossi 92 in 44 mag that would bruise you no matter how you held it.
 
I'm almost embarrassed to post. I have never seen a need for wildcats or fancy schmancy calibers. As a target shooter and a deer hunter the "regular" stuff is just fine.

Anywhoot, my entries are .41 Magnum, Ruger only loads, and an Austrian Steyr Manlicher in 8x56R.

Close seconds are a 30.06 loaded to the max and a .45 Colt, also Ruger only loads. With these 2 venerable calibers what more could anyone possibly need? (OK, I don't hunt elephant)

I have a whole pile of old milsurps and they hardly kick at all. Of course, being a reloader I can roll my own to get optimum accuracy.
 
I have a .458 Win. Mag. that I shoot fairly often. I wouldn't call it painful but it's probably the hardest kicking rifle I have. The 50/90 Sharps will wear you down with a heavy bullet and gets pretty painful after 8-10 rounds. A 45-70 Trapdoor carbine with a full power gov't load (500 fr. bullet and 70 grs. of FG black) is a surprisingly hard kicker. Hardest kicking handgun for me was a 4" 500 S&W but the most painful one was a S&W 340 PD with full power magnums. That little booger hurt!
 
329 S&W. Had some heavy 275 gr slugs. No fun. I shoot a bunch of .44 in Ruger SBH’s and a model 69, but they’re “light magnum-heavy special” loads. Rifles-Ruger #3 carbine with hot 45/70😳. When the .500 Smith came out local shop sold the Same gun 3 times and it came back each time. 3 owners and not one box of cartridges fired😊. Somebody finally kept it (or traded it someplace else).
 
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Have two

Well I did shoot a Ruger Blackhawk in .44 Magnum during winter. My hand was stinging that day.

Latest but pretty lame was a 637-2 with some +P ammo to my understanding . My buddy bought some old ammo to burn off so loaded up 5 and the recoil was crazy and slapped my hand something fierce. I had to shake my hand a few times cause boy that stung.

Asked to read the box and Yikes!

It was some older +P+ loads
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Yeah, a .375 RUM that lightweight would no doubt be a handful. My experience is what we’ve all heard a million times - weight and stock design makes a big difference. I’ve fired three .378s and they usually weigh just short of 10 pounds, with a telescope. They kick, but not terribly. The ARE fast. How fast that recoil comes at you can be just as bad as how much you’re getting. You have to be ready and able to stay out of its way. :D I’d really like to see Weatherby put a longer LOP stock on the .378, like they do the .460. 13-1/2” or 13-5/8” is just not enough for a rifle like that. An extra 5/8” or 3/4” would make a world of difference.

I have a newer production Model 70 .458 that gets a vote from me. Typical classic stock design, which is a lousy recoil handler, at least IMHO, and it weighs a bit less than 9 pounds with scope. It will give me a headache quick. A slightly heavier .450 Rigby, shooting “.458 Plus-P” loads, but with a better stock design, is friendlier. With full-charge loads it’s beyond my tolerance. The only .460 Weatherby I’ve ever fired wasn’t as bad as the Rigby, since it had a muzzle brake that mitigated a lot of the recoil, and that longer stock. As someone commented, the brakes do help with recoil, but the concussion effect can go right off the scale.

I used to not worry much about recoil but the older I get the less I care to put up with it. In handguns it’s really hard on the wrists, elbows, and arms, even to the shoulder, and a hard kicking rifle (or shotgun) can cause a lot of problems I don’t want - even damage to your vision, in extreme cases. Big kickers are for the young guys tougher than me - and they better think about what they might be doing to themselves, depending on how much shooting they’re going to do with those weapons. JMHO.
 
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My experience is that not many rifles have a felt recoil harder than a good old fashion 12ga slug. Off the top of my head I’d say 454 Casull handgun and 10ga 3 1/2” slug for a long gun…….. wow that’s pretty boring.
 
I used to own a Ruger Super Blackhawk in .44 Magnum. It was so obnoxious in recoil that I got rid of it. Don't think I have shot .44 Magnum handgun since, although I have a couple of .44 Special guns (one is a Ruger Blackhawk) that with certain loads have some noticable recoil. On the rifle side of the house, it's a toss-up between my experience shooting a friend's Winchester Model 70 in .458 Winchester Magnum and my H&R SB2 in .45-70 Government. The little handi-rifle is just a bear when you try to shoot it from the bench to check the scope. It only weighs about 7 pounds with optic. No way can I shoot a whole box of shells in that single shot in one sitting. :eek:
 

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Heaviest recoiling handgun I've ever fired is a M29-2. Heaviest recoiling rifle was a .300 Win-Mag. Of course, I've fired a Ma Deuce on a tripod, a MG42 on a bipod and a Mk 19 grenade launcher, but they don't normally fit your shoulder and try to rip your arm off.
 
Yeah, a .375 RUM that lightweight would no doubt be a handful. My experience is what we’ve all heard a million times - weight and stock design makes a big difference. I’ve fired three .378s and they usually weigh just short of 10 pounds, with a telescope. They kick, but not terribly. The ARE fast. How fast that recoil comes at you can be just as bad as how much you’re getting. You have to be ready and able to stay out of its way. :D I’d really like to see Weatherby put a longer LOP stock on the .378, like they do the .460. 13-1/2” or 13-5/8” is just not enough for a rifle like that. An extra 5/8” or 3/4” would make a world of difference.

I have a newer production Model 70 .458 that gets a vote from me. Typical classic stock design, which is a lousy recoil handler, at least IMHO, and it weighs a bit less than 9 pounds with scope. It will give me a headache quick. A slightly heavier .450 Rigby, shooting “.458 Plus-P” loads, but with a better stock design, is friendlier. With full-charge loads it’s beyond my tolerance. The only .460 Weatherby I’ve ever fired wasn’t as bad as the Rigby, since it had a muzzle brake that mitigated a lot of the recoil, and that longer stock. As someone commented, the brakes do help with recoil, but the concussion effect can go right off the scale.

I used to not worry much about recoil but the older I get the less I care to put up with it. In handguns it’s really hard on the wrists, elbows, and arms, even to the shoulder, and a hard kicking rifle (or shotgun) can cause a lot of problems I don’t want - even damage to your vision, in extreme cases. Big kickers are for the young guys tougher than me - and they better think about what they might be doing to themselves, depending on how much shooting they’re going to do with those weapons. JMHO.

Excellent points. Some of the old time gun writers suffered from detached retinas from shooting some of the big bores too often and I recall reading an article by Alaskan brown bear guide Phil Shoemaker, writing about shooting his 500 Jeffrey and seeing momentary flashes of blackness. He came to the conclusion that was his retinas momentarily detaching, hence the brief blackness! This is why I only do limited shooting with the big bore heavy recoiling guns, sometimes just a few rounds per session. Any high volume shooting is done with a 22 or 223 in rifles and usually 9mm in handguns or 38 special.

I think the Weatherby Monte Carlo stock on the Mark V is the most comfortable for heavy recoil. Ear protection is a must with the ported magnums. I carry ear protection when hunting with my 375 RUM.
 
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