Help I.D.ing S&W Revolver, (Serial 50215) Blue 4" Bbl.

[Trenchgun]

Need a little help identifying a S&W revolver, it is a blue steel 4" barrel, serial number on the butt of gun is 50215, does not have a model number in the crane area, has "Made in U.S.A."
on the right side front of the frame, looks like an extra screw above the trigger guard area looking from the bottom of the gun up. An usual feature is that it has a front sight with a solid portion that flows back about 3/4 of the way toward the frame, it does not go all the way back to the frame, on the left side of the front sight it says "Parker Hale England" in small letters. The rear sight appears to be a standard S&W fixed sight notch. It does not have the original grips, it has what appears to be plastic stag looking grips, and the right grip is broke off at the top of the grip. It seems to have what I consider excessive back and forth movement of the cylinder when the hammer is down and also a little less movement back and forth when the hammer is cocked. By back and forth I am talking about rolling the cylinder between your thumb and fingers, not movement going from the barrel to the hammer, just trying to be clear. If anyone has an idea of year of mfg. and can help with the Parker Hale front sight, I am guessing it was added after purchase, the gun looks like a blue model 10 with a 4" barrel. Any info will be appreciated......P.S. I can't remember the
markings for the caliber, It looks like a 38 special, but just
not sure....also no british proof markings are on the gun that I can find.

 

[Trenchgun]

Need a little help identifying a S&W revolver, it is a blue steel 4" barrel, serial number on the butt of gun is 50215, does not have a model number in the crane area, has "Made in U.S.A."
on the right side front of the frame, looks like an extra screw above the trigger guard area looking from the bottom of the gun up. An usual feature is that it has a front sight with a solid portion that flows back about 3/4 of the way toward the frame, it does not go all the way back to the frame, on the left side of the front sight it says "Parker Hale England" in small letters. The rear sight appears to be a standard S&W fixed sight notch. It does not have the original grips, it has what appears to be plastic stag looking grips, and the right grip is broke off at the top of the grip. It seems to have what I consider excessive back and forth movement of the cylinder when the hammer is down and also a little less movement back and forth when the hammer is cocked. By back and forth I am talking about rolling the cylinder between your thumb and fingers, not movement going from the barrel to the hammer, just trying to be clear. If anyone has an idea of year of mfg. and can help with the Parker Hale front sight, I am guessing it was added after purchase, the gun looks like a blue model 10 with a 4" barrel. Any info will be appreciated......P.S. I can't remember the
markings for the caliber, It looks like a 38 special, but just
not sure....also no british proof markings are on the gun that I can find.

 

[opoefc]

Sounds like a modified Victory Model. Is there a "V" on the butt before the serial number? Can you post some pics? Have you tried a .38 Special round in the cylinder to see if it fits? Parker Hale modified and sold a lot of WW2 surplus Victory Model S&Ws.

 

[Trenchgun]

There is no V on the butt before the serial number, can't post pics, and could not drop a round in the cylinder. When did Smith stop putting the Made in USA on the right front bottom of the frame, that may help date it, I believe now is says Marcus Registerius or something like that, this gun just had Made in USA on it.

 

[opoefc]

Somethings not right. The serial number would indicate a M&P made about 1904 and that would not have Made in USA on the frame. Is it a round butt or square butt? That serial number may be missing a digit - whatever, it sounds like it may have been rode hard & put away wet in it's past and then got some front sight alteration along the way, etc.

 

[Trenchgun]

It is a square butt, and I remember the hammer has that little "hook" on the end of it, not like the modern hammers, kind of hard to explain. Yes, I agree, it was too rough for me, the reason I cannot do more with it is that it is for sale in a pawn shop, I was just curious about the gun, I do not think that he has a price yet on the gun. It did not look like a digit was missing on the serial number, I wrote the number down. I appreciate all the replies, I am not as familiar with the older Smith revolvers, but enjoy learning something new.